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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 18, 2017 7:51:54 GMT
Captain Rogers woke up in 2010 Rogers woke up in 2012. He had been asleep for 70 years. America didn't enter WWII until December 1941 so Rogers couldn't have been frozen in ice before December 1941 and probably not until at least 1942. He slept for 70 years and then woke up, in 2012. the Chitauri Battle in New York also took place in 2010. So you're saying that the Chitauri battle took place in 2010 before Thor came to Earth in 2011? Yet Thor was in the Chitauri battle in 2010 before he came to Earth in 2011. Like I said, MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has no clue what's going on and still can't explain how that massive continuity fuck-up got into the movie. Here, it's explained perfectly in this graph:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 10:10:41 GMT
People trying to talk sense into DC-Fan... Its like watching people carrying water to sea. Noble effort but totally useless.
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 18, 2017 10:28:52 GMT
Although I understand ( and actually agree with ) the basic idea here ( the lack of planning ) it really isn't all that accurate. Yep, it isn't accurate. MCU should be the shape of a question mark. Because even MCU fans were questioning what the fuck they meant by "8 Years Later". You let one tiny typo bother you that much?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 18, 2017 11:55:06 GMT
That chart rather neatly explains why you are such a emotional wreck, bronyraptor.
Who thinks of the little ponies and children while you are here making a fool out of yourself? Are they safe?
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 18, 2017 12:02:45 GMT
Rogers woke up in 2012. He had been asleep for 70 years. America didn't enter WWII until December 1941 so Rogers couldn't have been frozen in ice before December 1941 and probably not until at least 1942. He slept for 70 years and then woke up, in 2012. So you're saying that the Chitauri battle took place in 2010 before Thor came to Earth in 2011? Yet Thor was in the Chitauri battle in 2010 before he came to Earth in 2011. Like I said, MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has no clue what's going on and still can't explain how that massive continuity fuck-up got into the movie. Here, it's explained perfectly in this graph: The graph neatly explains why the MCU is a complete trainwreck. It puts the end of The First Avenger in Spring 2010. Since Steve Rogers was asleep for 70 years, that puts the beginning of The First Avenger (when the soldiers were signing up to join the Army to fight the Nazis) in Spring 1940, more than a year and half before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. So according to MCU, America was already signing up soldiers to go fight the Nazis a year and a half before America even declared that they were entering the war. Like I said, MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has no clue what's going on and still can't explain how that massive continuity fuck-up got into the movie.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 18, 2017 12:04:07 GMT
That chart rather neatly explains why you are such a emotional wreck, bronyraptor. That chart neatly explains why the MCU is a complete trainwreck. It puts the end of The First Avenger in Spring 2010. Since Steve Rogers was asleep for 70 years, that puts the beginning of The First Avenger (when the soldiers were signing up to join the Army to fight the Nazis) in Spring 1940, more than a year and half before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. So according to MCU, America was already signing up soldiers to go fight the Nazis a year and a half before America even declared that they were entering the war. Like I said, MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has no clue what's going on and still can't explain how that massive continuity fuck-up got into the movie.
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Post by damngumby on Sept 18, 2017 12:47:21 GMT
"Nearly" 70 years, according to Nick Fury. You do know what "nearly" means, don't you?
You seem to have difficulty understanding casual references to the passage of time, Ace. When we laugh at the Dallas Cowboys because it's been 20 years since they last won a Championship, it isn't necessary to point out that it's really 21.5 years. That degree of precision isn't required to get the point across.
Comprende? ... or do you need it explained with pictures?
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 18, 2017 14:05:13 GMT
Rogers woke up in 2012. He had been asleep for 70 years. America didn't enter WWII until December 1941 so Rogers couldn't have been frozen in ice before December 1941 and probably not until at least 1942. He slept for 70 years and then woke up, in 2012. So you're saying that the Chitauri battle took place in 2010 before Thor came to Earth in 2011? Yet Thor was in the Chitauri battle in 2010 before he came to Earth in 2011. Like I said, MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has no clue what's going on and still can't explain how that massive continuity fuck-up got into the movie. Here, it's explained perfectly in this graph: And we should all remember that the use of time stone in 'Doctor Strange' might've goofed up the timeline...
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 18, 2017 14:24:59 GMT
That chart rather neatly explains why you are such a emotional wreck, bronyraptor. That chart neatly explains why the MCU is a complete trainwreck. It puts the end of The First Avenger in Spring 2010. Since Steve Rogers was asleep for 70 years, that puts the beginning of The First Avenger (when the soldiers were signing up to join the Army to fight the Nazis) in Spring 1940, more than a year and half before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. So according to MCU, America was already signing up soldiers to go fight the Nazis a year and a half before America even declared that they were entering the war. Like I said, MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has no clue what's going on and still can't explain how that massive continuity fuck-up got into the movie. Just stop dude. Seriously. No one here takes you seriously. You are clueless. The FACT is that BvS and SS suck as movies.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 18, 2017 14:37:04 GMT
Here, it's explained perfectly in this graph: And we should all remember that the use of time stone in 'Doctor Strange' might've goofed up the timeline... What do you mean Doctor Strange goofed up the timeline?
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 18, 2017 15:15:31 GMT
Look dude, the more times you say this, the less times it's going to be right.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 15:16:03 GMT
And we should all remember that the use of time stone in 'Doctor Strange' might've goofed up the timeline... What do you mean Doctor Strange goofed up the timeline? Its a theory I came up with. Since Doctor Strange the timeline looks messy. Its actually mentioned int he movie that the use of the time stone would have consequences. The bill always comes due. So I thought initially that the 8 year thing had something to do with that. Since Guardians 2 is also only a few months after Guardians 1 it would make sense. I have no clue if its true but it sounds valid. If this is the case Marvel really wowed me with their planning and shared universe. At least is sounds better than the Magic Boat theory
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Post by politicidal on Sept 18, 2017 16:50:32 GMT
How is introducing WW or AM in a team up film ( before giving them a solo film ) any different than showing SM or BP in CA:CW first? Oh, that's right, it's not. Sure it is. The world had been well established by that point in the MCU and DC's hadn't.
IE: Panther was introduced with the context of what had already been established with Vibranium being stolen in Ultron. He was inserted into the politics of Sokovia, etc.
WW and AM had no such context, so it's actually quite different.
My god, I can't buy that DC characters are interacting with each other after seeing both of them appear in the last movie.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Sept 18, 2017 17:05:13 GMT
Sure it is. The world had been well established by that point in the MCU and DC's hadn't.
IE: Panther was introduced with the context of what had already been established with Vibranium being stolen in Ultron. He was inserted into the politics of Sokovia, etc.
WW and AM had no such context, so it's actually quite different.
My god, I can't buy that DC characters are interacting with each other after seeing both of them appear in the last movie. You realize that wasn't what I said right?
I said introducing Panther within the context of the political ramifications and direct ties to his country in previous films is far stronger than just WW shows up out of nowhere or Bruce suddenly tells us he's heard some myth about Aquaman.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 18, 2017 20:25:30 GMT
I'll tell you what is a complete wreck: JJ Abrams new Star Trek films and The new Star Wars timeline!
Surprised Disney didn't get Rihanna to do a song for Star Wars.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Sept 18, 2017 22:59:21 GMT
While I hardly believe that WB's planning for the DCEU has been stellar, that chart makes no sense.
Man of Steel leads into BvS, which leads right into SS, then cuts back to WW in the past. Then JL will follow those up.
Sounds a lot like Iron Man leading into Hulk and Thor while they cut to the past with Cap and then The Avengers follows all of those up, doesn't it?
I have no idea what they plan to do with the future movies, so maybe those random lines at the bottom are accurate, but that top part is quite a stretch.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 23:01:46 GMT
While I hardly believe that WB's planning for the DCEU has been stellar, that chart makes no sense. Man of Steel leads into BvS, which leads right into SS, then cuts back to WW in the past. Then JL will follow those up. Sounds a lot like Iron Man leading into Hulk and Thor while they cut to the past with Cap and then The Avengers follows all of those up, doesn't it? I have no idea what they plan to do with the future movies, so maybe those random lines at the bottom are accurate, but that top part is quite a stretch. The point, one is neatly planned out and is chugging along smoothly, and the other isn't. Don't be so picky.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Sept 19, 2017 0:23:37 GMT
What do you mean Doctor Strange goofed up the timeline? Its a theory I came up with. Since Doctor Strange the timeline looks messy. Its actually mentioned int he movie that the use of the time stone would have consequences. The bill always comes due. So I thought initially that the 8 year thing had something to do with that. Since Guardians 2 is also only a few months after Guardians 1 it would make sense. I have no clue if its true but it sounds valid. If this is the case Marvel really wowed me with their planning and shared universe. At least is sounds better than the Magic Boat theory I was with you until you said Guardians 2 only takes place months after. Yes it does, but that doesn't need to be explained at all. It simply took place a couple months later. The release date has nothing to do with it.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 19, 2017 0:41:32 GMT
While I hardly believe that WB's planning for the DCEU has been stellar, that chart makes no sense. Man of Steel leads into BvS, which leads right into SS, then cuts back to WW in the past. Then JL will follow those up. Sounds a lot like Iron Man leading into Hulk and Thor while they cut to the past with Cap and then The Avengers follows all of those up, doesn't it? I have no idea what they plan to do with the future movies, so maybe those random lines at the bottom are accurate, but that top part is quite a stretch. Actually, IM doesn't lead into TIH and Thor.
MoS leads to BvS, that's obvious. In fact, the beginning of BvS is the battle that was at the end of MoS, but seen from Bruce Wayne's perspective. BvS leads to SS, that's also made clear. Amanda Waller formed Task Force X because Superman was "dead" and there was no one around to fight the threats that Superman would've fought so Waller wanted to form a team of metahumans to fight those threats
WW is a flashback movie, which starts in the present and then an object (in this case, the picture) reminds the protagonist (Diana) of a past event (the Great War) and the movie flashes back to that past event, similar to how Titanic started in the present with an object (the pearl) reminding the protagonist (Rose) of a past event (the Titanic's maiden voyage) and the movie flashes back to that past event.
And JL follows BvS, that's obvious. Superman is "dead" and Bruce and Diana recruit a team in anticipation of the arrival of an huge threat that the Flash traveled back in time to warn Bruce about in BvS. So the connection between the DCEU movies is evident and (other than WW, which is a flashback movie), each of the DCEU movies leads into the next movie.
By contrast, MCU is just a random haphazard mess. There's no connection at all between IM and TIH other than Tony Stark appearing in a 30-second post-credit scene in TIH. In fact, IM, TIH, Thor, and IM: TFA could've occurred in any order and it wouldn't have made any difference at all because the movies aren't connected and don't lead into the next movie. Also, there's no connection between IM, TIH, and Thor with GotG, Ant-Man, or Doctor Strange. Again, those movies could've occurred in any order and it wouldn't have made any difference at all because those movies aren't connected and don't lead into the next movie.
The MCU timeline is basically just a random haphazard mess.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 19, 2017 0:49:36 GMT
Oh, dear. If discussing this is what we're reduced to, please excuse me while I move to a bunker and wait for that asteroid to come and hit us.
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