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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 24, 2017 23:41:54 GMT
The first was "Swashbuckler" 1976 starring Robert Shaw and James Earl Jones with a lot of other good actors. I appreciate that this movie tried to recreate the swashbuckler films from Hollywood's golden age but I think the execution was very poorly done. Among other things, the sound is terrible. You can barely understand what's being said. The writing is weak and the music is bad. I give it 6/10 for cast and effort.
EDIT - Swashbuckler does have very good fencing choreography.
The next was a personal favorite of mine. Somewhere between "A Nightmare on Elm Street" and "Scream" Wes Craven created a monstrosity called "Deadly Friend" 1986.
I think I first saw it when it played on HBO in the 80's and I never forgot it. It's half ET and half Freddy Kruger. To me it falls into the "so bad it's good" category. It has a strong cast and some interesting writing. I am sure that the guys who make "Stranger Things" for Netflix saw this movie. If you've never seen it, I cautiously recommend it. 6/10 just because.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 25, 2017 22:22:56 GMT
Hadn't seen the latter but I hated Swashbuckler. I agree that aside from the swordfighting and I'd also add the production design that it was overall very sloppy. I think they were aiming for something like the Richard Lester Three Musketeer movies from a few years prior;a sort of epic sized comedic spin on the genre. Boy they missed the mark.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 26, 2017 14:09:49 GMT
Hadn't seen the latter but I hated Swashbuckler. I agree that aside from the swordfighting and I'd also add the production design that it was overall very sloppy. I think they were aiming for something like the Richard Lester Three Musketeer movies from a few years prior;a sort of epic sized comedic spin on the genre. Boy they missed the mark. Agreed. They certainly tried to emulate the Lester Musketeer movies (which are excellent) but failed. I could make a lengthy list of specific things that are wrong with this movie but the film is just not worth it. |
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Post by tresix on Sept 26, 2017 18:16:20 GMT
Hadn't seen the latter but I hated Swashbuckler. I agree that aside from the swordfighting and I'd also add the production design that it was overall very sloppy. I think they were aiming for something like the Richard Lester Three Musketeer movies from a few years prior;a sort of epic sized comedic spin on the genre. Boy they missed the mark. Agreed. They certainly tried to emulate the Lester Musketeer movies (which are excellent) but failed. I could make a lengthy list of specific things that are wrong with this movie but the film is just not worth it. I remember seeing "Swashbuckler" about a year after it came out. Didn't think it was too bad, but I can't remember too much of it today. I think "Deadly Friend" is a my favorite Craven movie, even more so than "Nightmare on Elm Street". Loved the scene of Anne Ramsey getting hers with the basketball. I will admit, though, the ending sort of confused me. Was it supposed to be real or a dream? |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 26, 2017 18:31:13 GMT
Agreed. They certainly tried to emulate the Lester Musketeer movies (which are excellent) but failed. I could make a lengthy list of specific things that are wrong with this movie but the film is just not worth it. I remember seeing "Swashbuckler" about a year after it came out. Didn't think it was too bad, but I can't remember too much of it today. I think "Deadly Friend" is a my favorite Craven movie, even more so than "Nightmare on Elm Street". Loved the scene of Anne Ramsey getting hers with the basketball. I will admit, though, the ending sort of confused me. Was it supposed to be real or a dream? "Deadly Friend" is favorite of mine also, though I'm not sure why. I don't really like the ending and it is a real head-scratcher. I always assumed it was real and not a dream. I also agree that the basketball scene is a classic. |
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Post by tresix on Sept 26, 2017 18:35:08 GMT
I remember seeing "Swashbuckler" about a year after it came out. Didn't think it was too bad, but I can't remember too much of it today. I think "Deadly Friend" is a my favorite Craven movie, even more so than "Nightmare on Elm Street". Loved the scene of Anne Ramsey getting hers with the basketball. I will admit, though, the ending sort of confused me. Was it supposed to be real or a dream? "Deadly Friend" is favorite of mine also, though I'm not sure why. I don't really like the ending and it is a real head-scratcher. I always assumed it was real and not a dream. I also agree that the basketball scene is a classic. I think I saw this around the same time that "Throw Mama from the Train" came out. Did Ramsey ever play a witch in her career? She was born for it! |
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Post by geode on Oct 10, 2017 20:07:34 GMT
The first was "Swashbuckler" 1976 starring Robert Shaw and James Earl Jones with a lot of other good actors. I appreciate that this movie tried to recreate the swashbuckler films from Hollywood's golden age but I think the execution was very poorly done. Among other things, the sound is terrible. You can barely understand what's being said. The writing is weak and the music is bad. I give it 6/10 for cast and effort. EDIT - Swashbuckler does have very good fencing choreography. The next was a personal favorite of mine. Somewhere between "A Nightmare on Elm Street" and "Scream" Wes Craven created a monstrosity called "Deadly Friend" 1986. I think I first saw it when it played on HBO in the 80's and I never forgot it. It's half ET and half Freddy Kruger. To me it falls into the "so bad it's good" category. It has a strong cast and some interesting writing. I am sure that the guys who make "Stranger Things" for Netflix saw this movie. If you've never seen it, I cautiously recommend it. 6/10 just because. What I remember is that in a very good cast I found Robert Shaw to be a pretty strange casting choice for the lead in "Swashbuckler" ...but to be honest I haven't seen it since the initial release when It played in a theater where I worked as a projectionist. The audio was just fine in the film print we had. |
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