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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 13, 2017 5:36:37 GMT
Just because they weren't married, it didn't mean he loved her. He wanted to spend the rest of his life with her And what guarantee was there that she wanted to spend the rest of her life with him? Did he propose? Did she accept his proposal? No? So there was no guarantee that she wanted to spend the rest of her life with him. She might've dumped him after the war. So NO, Steve Rogers didn't sacrifice a life with Peggy Carter because 1) they weren't married and 2) they weren't even engaged. Steve Rogers woke up in 2011 as a healthy, young man with plenty of opportunity to have relationships with women. So NO, Steve Rogers made NO SACRFICE at all.
Well, the 2 shared a kiss just before Steve boarded the Hydra Jet. So it was pretty clear Peggy shared the same feelings towards Steve. And who cares if they weren't married, engaged, or Steve proposed. Steve loved her.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 13, 2017 10:26:48 GMT
I have to wonder what DC-Fan's excuse will be when DC brings Trevor back.
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Post by sostie on Oct 13, 2017 10:40:55 GMT
And what guarantee was there that she wanted to spend the rest of her life with him? Did he propose? Did she accept his proposal? No? So there was no guarantee that she wanted to spend the rest of her life with him. She might've dumped him after the war. So NO, Steve Rogers didn't sacrifice a life with Peggy Carter because 1) they weren't married and 2) they weren't even engaged. Steve Rogers woke up in 2011 as a healthy, young man with plenty of opportunity to have relationships with women. So NO, Steve Rogers made NO SACRFICE at all.
Well, the 2 shared a kiss just before Steve boarded the Hydra Jet. So it was pretty clear Peggy shared the same feelings towards Steve. And who cares if they weren't married, engaged, or Steve proposed. Steve loved her. DC-Fan has strange ideas about male/female relationships. He thought Steve Rogers had slept with Peggy's great-niece before they shared a first kiss
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 13, 2017 11:15:14 GMT
Throwing your initial reply under the bus already, champ? That was a quick retreat! You are a slow learner, cheesecake. My assumption was that you deemed the DCEU movies "crappy", but this is not the case evidently.
Your conclusion does not flow from your premise. False cause fallacy: You can shorten quotes anytime. Babble again, honeybrains.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 13, 2017 12:45:34 GMT
Just because they weren't married, it didn't mean he loved her. He wanted to spend the rest of his life with her And what guarantee was there that she wanted to spend the rest of her life with him? Did he propose? Did she accept his proposal? No? So there was no guarantee that she wanted to spend the rest of her life with him. She might've dumped him after the war. So NO, Steve Rogers didn't sacrifice a life with Peggy Carter because 1) they weren't married and 2) they weren't even engaged. Steve Rogers woke up in 2011 as a healthy, young man with plenty of opportunity to have relationships with women. So NO, Steve Rogers made NO SACRFICE at all.
Dude, you need to get off your fuckin' high horse over this crap. Everyone has already proven more than once why you're wrong. You don't think it's a sacrifice, fair enough, that's your opinion, not a fuckin'. You want to go complain about it, go crawl in fuckin' hole then, jackhole, and never come back
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Post by DSDSquared on Oct 13, 2017 14:43:26 GMT
I am looking forward to Justice League featuring those Namor and Deathlok rip-offs Aquaman and Cyborg. How about you? Remind me, who did a movie first with these characteristics...A comic book hero created just before the US entry into World War 2, with superhuman abilities, carrying a shield, leads a multi-cultural team of soldiers (who at one point are all in London where they go to a local pub) in an attempt to defeat the Germans during a World War. The main villain and their scientist are developing a super weapon. The superhuman falls in love with an Allied agent in the process, but one of the happy couple dies when they sacrifice themselves whilst destroying an aeroplane that is carrying said weapon. And which criminal team-up movie came first...Guardians or Suicide Squad? Which film had two of the studios major heroes squaring up to each other for a big destructive battle...Age Of Ultron or BvS? And who was it that built a special suit first to beat that foe...Iron Man or Batman? Which film first had someone with "god" ancestry finding themselves adapting to life in a human civilization? Thor or Wonder Woman? Which film first had an attractive woman who was not all what she seemed until the last act of the film when she was revealed to be hero who helped save the day? Later to join a Superhero team which features the Billionaire hero she initially aided? Was that Iron Man 2 or BvS? We can sit here all day and break down plots, ideas, synopsis and similarities between films made by either studio, and come up with so called examples of "copying". Put your little stick away and stop trying to stir up the pot. DC Fan just got owned!!
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Post by DSDSquared on Oct 13, 2017 14:44:13 GMT
The music is seriously the worst part of the DCEU. I hate everything about it.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 13, 2017 16:05:33 GMT
Shouldn't we encourage marvel to make a all female team up film? Or is it better to fight over who does it first? Because you would think that a film that includes more women, including women of color, would be getting more support.
Or am I right thinking that fans like DCfan are full of shit when they act like they support films like Wonder Woman?
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Post by damngumby on Oct 13, 2017 19:20:55 GMT
An excellent assumption ... considering how I expressed that sentiment in my initial post.
Your second assumption should have been that I do not feel the same about MCU movies ... considering how I also expressed that sentiment in my initial post.
If you make crappy cookies and I make tasty cookies, the notion that I'm trying to copy what you're doing is obviously ... comically ... idiotically ... wrong.
Comprende, Pedro?
You through tying yourself in knots? ... or should I mix metaphors and fetch you a larger shovel?
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 13, 2017 21:39:56 GMT
An excellent assumption ... considering how I expressed that sentiment in my initial post. Your second assumption should have been that I do not feel the same about MCU movies ... considering how I also expressed that sentiment in my initial post. If you make crappy cookies and I make tasty cookies, the notion that I'm trying to copy what you're doing is obviously ... comically ... idiotically ... wrong. Comprende, Pedro? He can't, it's beyond his ability.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 14, 2017 0:45:35 GMT
That movie hasn't been made yet. The Wonder Woman movie takes place at the end of World War I, not the beginning of World War II. So you're off by 2 decades. We've been through this before. Go back....read carefully..see what was written Again, you have been told this before..."sacrifice" does NOT only mean an act resulting death The injured soldiers with amputated limbs in Wonder Woman made more of a sacrifice than Steve Rogers, who is not only alive but also a young man in good health with full use of all his limbs. Steve Rogers made NO SACRIFICE at all.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 14, 2017 0:47:23 GMT
That movie hasn't been made yet. The Wonder Woman movie takes place at the end of World War I, not the beginning of World War II. So you're off by 2 decades. And neither 1 of the happy couple I The First Avenger died or sacrificed themselves. So that movie hasn't been made yet. No, but Peggy Carter died in Civil War. Steve sacrificed a life with her to save the world at the end of The First Avenger. The injured soldiers with amputated limbs in Wonder Woman made more of a sacrifice than Steve Rogers, who is not only alive but also a young man in good health with full use of all his limbs. Steve Rogers made NO SACRIFICE at all.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 14, 2017 0:51:39 GMT
No, but Peggy Carter died in Civil War. Steve sacrificed a life with her to save the world at the end of The First Avenger. The injured soldiers with amputated limbs in Wonder Woman made more of a sacrifice than Steve Rogers, who is not only alive but also a young man in good health with full use of all his limbs. Steve Rogers made NO SACRIFICE at all.Yeah, but Steve Trevor and Diana were not married, and he didn't proposed. How do you know Diana could've broke up with Steve Trevor after the war? Therefore, Steve Trevor didn't sacrificed a life with Diana. Also, Diana is a beautiful young woman, so she should have no problem finding another man after Steve Trevor's death.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 14, 2017 0:54:10 GMT
And what guarantee was there that she wanted to spend the rest of her life with him? Did he propose? Did she accept his proposal? No? So there was no guarantee that she wanted to spend the rest of her life with him. She might've dumped him after the war. So NO, Steve Rogers didn't sacrifice a life with Peggy Carter because 1) they weren't married and 2) they weren't even engaged. Steve Rogers woke up in 2011 as a healthy, young man with plenty of opportunity to have relationships with women. So NO, Steve Rogers made NO SACRFICE at all.
Well, the 2 shared a kiss just before Steve boarded the Hydra Jet. So it was pretty clear Peggy shared the same feelings towards Steve. And who cares if they weren't married, engaged, or Steve proposed. Steve loved her. Who cares if Steve loved her? There's no guarantee that she loved Steve or would spend the rest of her life with Steve.
In Agent Carter, Peggy Carter was engaged but broke off the engagement to go to America and work as a spy. She put her career ahead of her engagement. So she might've done the same with Steve. Steve might've been just a fling for her and she might've dumped him after the war to focus on her career, like she did when she broke off her engagement in Agent Carter.
So there's no guarantee that Steve was going to spend the rest of his life with Peggy Carter since they weren't even married. But Steve did have a guarantee that he gets to live in a world with plenty of things that weren't available in the 1940s AND most important of all, he gets to continue his life as a young man in good health with full use of all his limbs, which can't be said for the many soldier who were killed or maimed in World War I or World War II. So NO, Steve Rogers made NO SACRIFICE at all.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 14, 2017 0:59:25 GMT
We've been through this before. Go back....read carefully..see what was written Again, you have been told this before..."sacrifice" does NOT only mean an act resulting death The injured soldiers with amputated limbs in Wonder Woman made more of a sacrifice than Steve Rogers, who is not only alive but also a young man in good health with full use of all his limbs. Steve Rogers made NO SACRIFICE at all.So because he ended up surviving, it's not a sacrifice. Boy, you're going to be eating crow when they bring Steve Trevor back.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 14, 2017 0:59:33 GMT
The injured soldiers with amputated limbs in Wonder Woman made more of a sacrifice than Steve Rogers, who is not only alive but also a young man in good health with full use of all his limbs. Steve Rogers made NO SACRIFICE at all. Steve Trevor didn't sacrificed a life with Diana. But Steve Trevor did sacrifice his life, just like the many other soldiers who were killed in World War I. The same can't be said for Steve Rogers.
Steve Rogers is not only alive and living in a world with plenty of things that weren't available in the 1940s but also Steve Rogers gets to continue his life as a young man in good health, with full use of all his limbs, which is a whole lot better than the injured soldiers with amputated limbs in Wonder Woman.
Answer this question: I'm sure every 1 of the injured soldiers with amputated limbs in Wonder Woman would gladly and without hesitation trade places with Steve Rogers and be able to continue their lives in good health with full use of all their limbs. Would Steve Rogers gladly trade places with any of those injured soldiers with amputated limbs and have to live his life without full use of all his limbs? If Rogers' answer is NO, then Rogers made NO SACRIFICE at all.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 14, 2017 1:00:36 GMT
Well, the 2 shared a kiss just before Steve boarded the Hydra Jet. So it was pretty clear Peggy shared the same feelings towards Steve. And who cares if they weren't married, engaged, or Steve proposed. Steve loved her. Who cares if Steve loved her? There's no guarantee that she loved Steve or would spend the rest of her life with Steve. There's no guarantee she wouldn't, either. Steve wasn't like her fiancee from before. And yes, thinking you're going to die to stop a superweapon from being unleashed on millions is a sacrifice. That he ended up revived decades later doesn't take away from that. And your amputee argument is utter bosh. When Steve Trevor comes back to life, it'll undo his sacrifice as well. And you'll somehow defend it.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 14, 2017 1:05:01 GMT
Steve Trevor didn't sacrificed a life with Diana. But Steve Trevor did sacrifice his life, just like the many other soldiers who were killed in World War I. The same can't be said for Steve Rogers.
Steve Rogers is not only alive and living in a world with plenty of things that weren't available in the 1940s but also Steve Rogers gets to continue his life as a young man in good health, with full use of all his limbs, which is a whole lot better than the injured soldiers with amputated limbs in Wonder Woman.
Answer this question: I'm sure every 1 of the injured soldiers with amputated limbs in Wonder Woman would gladly and without hesitation trade places with Steve Rogers and be able to continue their lives in good health with full use of all their limbs. Would Steve Rogers gladly trade places with any of those injured soldiers with amputated limbs and have to live his life without full use of all his limbs? If Rogers' answer is NO, then Rogers made NO SACRIFICE at all.
I would stop lumping Steve Trevor with actual WWI soldiers who lost their lives in the real battles if I were you. Stop confusing non reality with reality. He's a fictional character. It's Chris Pine playing a character in a really good CBM.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 14, 2017 1:06:55 GMT
And what guarantee was there that she wanted to spend the rest of her life with him? Did he propose? Did she accept his proposal? No? So there was no guarantee that she wanted to spend the rest of her life with him. She might've dumped him after the war. So NO, Steve Rogers didn't sacrifice a life with Peggy Carter because 1) they weren't married and 2) they weren't even engaged. Steve Rogers woke up in 2011 as a healthy, young man with plenty of opportunity to have relationships with women. So NO, Steve Rogers made NO SACRFICE at all.
Everyone has already proven more than once why you're wrong. You don't think it's a sacrifice, fair enough, that's your opinion, not a fuckin'. No, I've prove that all of you MCU dumbfucks are wrong. And it's not just my opinion. It's a fact.
Go ahead and ask people the following question and I say for a fact that 100% of people will choose answer C.
If you were a soldier and you were sent off to another country to fight a war, which outcome would you prefer:
A. Die in the war (like Steve Trevor).
B. Get injured in the war and come back home with a amputated limb (like the injured soldiers with amputated limbs in Wonder Woman).
C. Get frozen in ice in the war, but wake up 70 years later and continue your life as a young person in good health with full use of all your limbs (like Steve Rogers).
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 14, 2017 1:10:56 GMT
Everyone has already proven more than once why you're wrong. You don't think it's a sacrifice, fair enough, that's your opinion, not a fuckin'. No, I've prove that all DCEU dumbfucks are wrong. And it's not just my opinion. It's a fact. Fixed. Steve Rogers didn't choose C, it ended up that way due to forces beyond his control. You act like Rogers had a choice.
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