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Post by Gubbio on Jan 17, 2020 22:59:59 GMT
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jan 18, 2020 1:27:11 GMT
That's great! Time for another viewing. And Lebowskidoo 🦞 , now's your chance to see it. By the way, I forgot to mention the first time around with this thread that I'm also a huge fan of the score, and decades ago in one of my down-times I was lucky enough to sit in on a class that composer David Raksin was teaching about film scoring at UCLA. Needless to say, he had some great stories to tell. But what I remember most was his remarkable talent in composing and teaching. I'm guessing that one of those stories must have been about creating the tune under the gun from Preminger, who'd given Raksin only a weekend to come up with something more suitable than the producer/director's preferred Sophisticated Lady, and that Johnny Mercer added lyrics after the tune was popularized by the film, but without having seen it. Have you ever noticed that the complete tune as we now know it is never heard in its entirety in the film? It never gets to the final musical phrase that accompanies the lyrics, But she's only a dream, and going no further than the preceding, That was Laura...
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Post by jervistetch on Jan 18, 2020 2:18:37 GMT
A couple of decades back, Carly Simon released a wonderful album named FILM NOIR. She sings a lovely version of “Laura”.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Jan 18, 2020 9:39:34 GMT
That's great! Time for another viewing. And Lebowskidoo 🦞 , now's your chance to see it. By the way, I forgot to mention the first time around with this thread that I'm also a huge fan of the score, and decades ago in one of my down-times I was lucky enough to sit in on a class that composer David Raksin was teaching about film scoring at UCLA. Needless to say, he had some great stories to tell. But what I remember most was his remarkable talent in composing and teaching. I have to work but I will be recording it.
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Post by Gubbio on Jan 18, 2020 15:31:59 GMT
spiderwortIt was the melody (Ferrante & Teicher) which first hooked me as a teen, long before I ever saw the film. My mother had a vague memory that Laura was "a picture." No VHS or DVD in those days, so I had to wait for a TV broadcast to see what the film was all about. Been a fan ever since. I had it on my DVR, but recently lost it. It'll be good to have back again. I could watch it a couple times a year.
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Post by Gubbio on Jan 18, 2020 16:41:37 GMT
Gubbio Oh, you're bringing back some memories with that! Ferrante & Teicher -- those were the days. Yeah, I'm so old, I was a waiter that the Last Supper !
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Post by marshamae on Jan 18, 2020 23:07:53 GMT
That's great! Time for another viewing. And Lebowskidoo 🦞 , now's your chance to see it. By the way, I forgot to mention the first time around with this thread that I'm also a huge fan of the score, and decades ago in one of my down-times I was lucky enough to sit in on a class that composer David Raksin was teaching about film scoring at UCLA. Needless to say, he had some great stories to tell. But what I remember most was his remarkable talent in composing and teaching. I'm guessing that one of those stories must have been about creating the tune under the gun from Preminger, who'd given Raksin only a weekend to come up with something more suitable than the producer/director's preferred Sophisticated Lady, and that Johnny Mercer added lyrics after the tune was popularized by the film, but without having seen it. Have you ever noticed that the complete tune as we now know it is never heard in its entirety in the film? It never gets to the final musical phrase that accompanies the lyrics, But she's only a dream, and going no further than the preceding, That was Laura... not not in the scene in the restaurant where Waldo is describing their relationship?
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jan 18, 2020 23:30:06 GMT
I'm guessing that one of those stories must have been about creating the tune under the gun from Preminger, who'd given Raksin only a weekend to come up with something more suitable than the producer/director's preferred Sophisticated Lady, and that Johnny Mercer added lyrics after the tune was popularized by the film, but without having seen it. Have you ever noticed that the complete tune as we now know it is never heard in its entirety in the film? It never gets to the final musical phrase that accompanies the lyrics, But she's only a dream, and going no further than the preceding, That was Laura... not in the scene in the restaurant where Waldo is describing their relationship? Y'know what, marshamae? You're absolutely right: those final six notes are indeed heard during the flashback, just as Laura arrives at Waldo's table, interrupting his lunch (something more important than her career). Thanks, I feel much better about it now.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jan 19, 2020 0:34:52 GMT
Y'know what, marshamae ? You're absolutely right: those final six notes are indeed heard during the flashback, just as Laura arrives at Waldo's table, interrupting his lunch (something more important than her career). Thanks, I feel much better about it now.
Me, too. Only I don't actually remember it. I recorded the film today, but haven't had a chance to look at it again. Now I have one more thing to look forward to. Thanks, marshamae . I didn't remember it either; hadda pop the disc in to check it. At least I no longer have that "left hanging" sensation.
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Post by marshamae on Jan 19, 2020 3:27:26 GMT
I knew that I knew the end of the song. There is no way I would know that if it wasn’t in the film.
That Carly Simon album looks great. She has a wonderful Smokey quality for noir.
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Post by mattgarth on Jan 19, 2020 9:58:06 GMT
Gubbio Oh, you're bringing back some memories with that! Ferrante & Teicher -- those were the days. One of those two guys had a reputation of being a real charmer. Orchestra members were warned to keep their lady fair away from him, and not let Ferrante entice her. ------------------------------------------------------- Although Waldo gets all the best sardonic lines, my favorite comes from Bessie the maid: "I ain't afraid of cops -- I was brought up to spit whenever I saw one!"
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jan 19, 2020 15:22:18 GMT
I knew that I knew the end of the song. There is no way I would know that if it wasn’t in the film. That Carly Simon album looks great. She has a wonderful Smokey quality for noir. My experience was quite the opposite. I knew the song when I was eleven or twelve from Ella Fitzgerald's recording. My parents had her Johnny Mercer Songbook album. That was years before I ever saw the film, or even knew of its existence.
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Post by Gubbio on Mar 1, 2020 23:24:39 GMT
ON TCM - It's On Again: Monday, March 2, 2020, 8:00PM 😊 Laura: Charlie Spivak & His Orchestra
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