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Post by charzhino on Oct 18, 2017 12:29:59 GMT
Some info has leaked about the films main antagonists from universoxmen.com.br/2017/10/fenix-negra-skrulls-estarao-no-filme/They also got a lot of things right for Apocalypse before its release including the entire opening of Apocalypse's ritual in ancient egypt, so they are somewhat a worthy source. The translation is as follows The author goes onto discuss implications of this. Assuming all that is true, I have mixed feelings on it. Firstly, I think its disappointing we are probably going to see the Skrulls instead of the Sh'iar empire. This is almost certain as Chastain pretty much confirmed she isnt playing Lilandra, as most had hoped. Not sure why Skrulls are chosen, especially if they will be in Captain Marvel. Strange choice. Secondly, without knowing the context of the scene , doesnt look like Dark Phoneix will be a space opera set in space - which is okay because going cosmic hasnt been covered in the XMen at all and needs to be introduced slowly, another reason why a 2 parter makes sense. Lastly, this still sounds exciting if we get something similar to the final battle in Avengers 1. The potential is there if they get it right. Hopefully the CGI is much better than in Apocalypse, give the Xmen vibrant costumes, make the battle truly city-wide and handle the Dark Phoenix correctly. Its a lot to ask for from a first time director. |
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Post by politicidal on Oct 18, 2017 16:08:19 GMT
The author goes onto discuss implications of this. Assuming all that is true, I have mixed feelings on it. Firstly, I think its disappointing we are probably going to see the Skrulls instead of the Sh'iar empire. This is almost certain as Chastain pretty much confirmed she isnt playing Lilandra, as most had hoped. Not sure why Skrulls are chosen, especially if they will be in Captain Marvel. Strange choice. Secondly, without knowing the context of the scene , doesnt look like Dark Phoneix will be a space opera set in space - which is okay because going cosmic hasnt been covered in the XMen at all and needs to be introduced slowly, another reason why a 2 parter makes sense. Lastly, this still sounds exciting if we get something similar to the final battle in Avengers 1. The potential is there if they get it right. Hopefully the CGI is much better than in Apocalypse, give the Xmen vibrant costumes, make the battle truly city-wide and handle the Dark Phoenix correctly. Its a lot to ask for from a first time director. Surprised that Fox was willing to give Kinberg the reins. Even Josh Trank had at least one film under his belt. |
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Post by kleinreturns on Oct 18, 2017 18:36:40 GMT
This really sounds bad and FOX is already effing up Dark Phoenix by DELIBERATELY ALTERING THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS of the Phoenix storyline. One Magneto SHOULD NOT BE IN THIS PARTICULAR STORY (like he had no business being in The Hunger Games: Professor Saban and the X-Rangers vs Ivan Ooze).
But it is extremely alarming that the morons at FOX are cutting the SH'IAR out of Dark Phoenix, since the Sh'iar PLAY A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE ESTABLISHING OF THE DARK PHOENIX (The M'Kraan Crystal , D'Ken, Lilandra, Deathbird, etc.) but even to Cyclops, Havok and his Father (Corsair leader of the Starjammers), and replacing them with the Skrulls (another b!tch move from FOX like they did with Quicksilver), this is all proof that FOX DOESN'T know how to properly do a real X-Men movie and should return the X-Men back to Marvel.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 18, 2017 19:15:39 GMT
This really sounds bad and FOX is already effing up Dark Phoenix by DELIBERATELY ALTERING THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS of the Phoenix storyline. One Magneto SHOULD NOT BE IN THIS PARTICULAR STORY (like he had no business being in The Hunger Games: Professor Saban and the X-Rangers vs Ivan Ooze). But it is extremely alarming that the morons at FOX are cutting the SH'IAR out of Dark Phoenix, since the Sh'iar PLAY A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE ESTABLISHING OF THE DARK PHOENIX (The M'Kraan Crystal , D'Ken, Lilandra, Deathbird, etc.) but even to Cyclops, Havok and his Father (Corsair leader of the Starjammers), and replacing them with the Skrulls (another b!tch move from FOX like they did with Quicksilver), this is all proof that FOX DOESN'T know how to properly do a real X-Men movie and should return the X-Men back to Marvel. Fox will make is AWESOME². The Dark Poenix comics always sucked, but Fox will make it WHOLE again. There is no man like Fox-Men! They should rebrand the franchise, without Fox this would still be a show for little children. Marvel should watch and LEARN. This is why the Fox-Men will NEVER er return to the LOWBROW MCU KIDDY FORMULA. I vote that Marvel give the MCU IP to Fox so that we at last get some good Iron Man film a la Logan. Suck formula, Marvel!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 23:57:34 GMT
This really sounds bad and FOX is already effing up Dark Phoenix by DELIBERATELY ALTERING THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS of the Phoenix storyline. One Magneto SHOULD NOT BE IN THIS PARTICULAR STORY (like he had no business being in The Hunger Games: Professor Saban and the X-Rangers vs Ivan Ooze). But it is extremely alarming that the morons at FOX are cutting the SH'IAR out of Dark Phoenix, since the Sh'iar PLAY A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE ESTABLISHING OF THE DARK PHOENIX (The M'Kraan Crystal , D'Ken, Lilandra, Deathbird, etc.) but even to Cyclops, Havok and his Father (Corsair leader of the Starjammers), and replacing them with the Skrulls (another b!tch move from FOX like they did with Quicksilver), this is all proof that FOX DOESN'T know how to properly do a real X-Men movie and should return the X-Men back to Marvel. They're only using the Skrulls to try one-upping Marvel Studios. |
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Post by blockbusted on Oct 19, 2017 0:59:47 GMT
This really sounds bad and FOX is already effing up Dark Phoenix by DELIBERATELY ALTERING THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS of the Phoenix storyline. One Magneto SHOULD NOT BE IN THIS PARTICULAR STORY (like he had no business being in The Hunger Games: Professor Saban and the X-Rangers vs Ivan Ooze). But it is extremely alarming that the morons at FOX are cutting the SH'IAR out of Dark Phoenix, since the Sh'iar PLAY A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE ESTABLISHING OF THE DARK PHOENIX (The M'Kraan Crystal , D'Ken, Lilandra, Deathbird, etc.) but even to Cyclops, Havok and his Father (Corsair leader of the Starjammers), and replacing them with the Skrulls (another b!tch move from FOX like they did with Quicksilver), this is all proof that FOX DOESN'T know how to properly do a real X-Men movie and should return the X-Men back to Marvel. They're only using the Skrulls to try one-upping Marvel Studios. And doesn’t Marvel Studios owns skrulls? |
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 19, 2017 1:32:06 GMT
They're only using the Skrulls to try one-upping Marvel Studios. And doesn’t Marvel Studios owns skrulls? They're shared between them. Fox gets to used the named Skrulls characters but MCU gets to use Skrulls in general. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 4:00:22 GMT
The more and more that comes out in regards to this film just gets me more and more excited to see it.......  |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 20, 2017 3:02:53 GMT
This really sounds bad and FOX is already effing up Dark Phoenix by DELIBERATELY ALTERING THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS of the Phoenix storyline. One Magneto SHOULD NOT BE IN THIS PARTICULAR STORY (like he had no business being in The Hunger Games: Professor Saban and the X-Rangers vs Ivan Ooze). But it is extremely alarming that the morons at FOX are cutting the SH'IAR out of Dark Phoenix, since the Sh'iar PLAY A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE ESTABLISHING OF THE DARK PHOENIX (The M'Kraan Crystal , D'Ken, Lilandra, Deathbird, etc.) but even to Cyclops, Havok and his Father (Corsair leader of the Starjammers), and replacing them with the Skrulls (another b!tch move from FOX like they did with Quicksilver), this is all proof that FOX DOESN'T know how to properly do a real X-Men movie and should return the X-Men back to Marvel. They're only using the Skrulls to try one-upping Marvel Studios. Skulls were in the original storyline helping the Shi’ar. What the fuck are you talking about? |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 20, 2017 3:03:29 GMT
The more and more that comes out in regards to this film just gets me more and more excited to see it....... Why? Did you know the Skrulls were the original? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 3:14:49 GMT
They're only using the Skrulls to try one-upping Marvel Studios. Skulls were in the original storyline helping the Shi’ar. What the fuck are you talking about?  Like that's ever mattered to the imbeciles making the FoX-Men films. The Skrulls would not be appearing if the MCU wasn't gearing up for the Secret Invasion. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 3:18:03 GMT
The more and more that comes out in regards to this film just gets me more and more excited to see it....... Why? Did you know the Skrulls were the original? Irrelevant. 1) They won't be used correctly. Fuck, they won't even remotely resemble how they're supposed to be. 2) This is a single film, perhaps two. The main elements they need are Jean, the Phoenix, and Shi'ar. Something has to end up on the cutting room floor, and apparently that's going to be silly little things like characters, character arcs, and development. |
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Post by kleinreturns on Oct 20, 2017 3:31:22 GMT
Why? Did you know the Skrulls were the original? Irrelevant. 1) They won't be used correctly. Fuck, they won't even remotely resemble how they're supposed to be. 2) This is a single film, perhaps two. The main elements they need are Jean, the Phoenix, and Shi'ar. Something has to end up on the cutting room floor, and apparently that's going to be silly little things like characters, character arcs, and development. ^^^This. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 3:37:55 GMT
The more and more that comes out in regards to this film just gets me more and more excited to see it....... Why? Did you know the Skrulls were the original? 1) Apocalypse was my least favorite X-Men movie by far and I have zero desire to see this new cast continue on. They were for the most part horrible specially Sophie Turner as Jean Grey. 2) I have zero interest in them trying to do another Phoenix related story. It's as if Fox isn't aware of any other stories that don't involved Magneto, Stryker, or Phoenix related so this is once again more of the same which was a huge complaint I had with Apocalypse. 3) I've never been this massive fan of the Phoenix story arch in general so the more that comes out the more I am less likely to see it. 4) It could be the Skrulls, Shi'ar Empire, the Starjammers idc. None of that would increase my interest in this film is what I'm saying. |
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Post by kleinreturns on Oct 20, 2017 4:01:59 GMT
Why? Did you know the Skrulls were the original? 1) Apocalypse was my least favorite X-Men movie by far and I have zero desire to see this new cast continue on. They were for the most part horrible specially Sophie Turner as Jean Grey. 2) I have zero interest in them trying to do another Phoenix related story. It's as if Fox isn't aware of any other stories that don't involved Magneto, Stryker, or Phoenix related so this is once again more of the same which was a huge complaint I had with Apocalypse. 3) I've never been this massive fan of the Phoenix story arch in general so the more that comes out the more I am less likely to see it. 4) It could be the Skrulls, Shi'ar Empire, the Starjammers idc. None of that would increase my interest in this film is what I'm saying.  |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 20, 2017 4:08:21 GMT
Skulls were in the original storyline helping the Shi’ar. What the fuck are you talking about? Like that's ever mattered to the imbeciles making the FoX-Men films. The Skrulls would not be appearing if the MCU wasn't gearing up for the Secret Invasion. You didn’t know there were skulls in the original. You sure do have a hard time admitting you were wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 4:21:37 GMT
Like that's ever mattered to the imbeciles making the FoX-Men films. The Skrulls would not be appearing if the MCU wasn't gearing up for the Secret Invasion. You didn’t know there were skulls in the original. You sure do have a hard time admitting you were wrong. Wrong again, as you always are. |
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Post by claudius on Oct 20, 2017 10:52:18 GMT
UXM#137 had a Skrull and Kree agents acting as observors over the Shi'ar's handling of the Phoenix problem. It didn't stop the two from meddling in the fight (resulting in the two fighting themselves in the area for a year or two).
It's not as if X-Men never handled Skrulls before this new film plotpoint. Chris Claremont's final completed storyline in UXM (274-277) had the team prevent a Skrull secret takeover of the Shi'ar Empire with empowered Skrulls as Xavier, Wolverine, Jubilee, Psylocke and the Starjammers. And a later storyline had Wolverine killed by Apocalypse Horseman Death, only to reveal 'Logan' was a Skrull and Death was a brainwashed You-know-who.
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Post by kleinreturns on Nov 3, 2017 21:36:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 5:35:16 GMT
They should use the Brood as the Aliens.
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