Truthfully I think Doctor Who just needs to end. It's had a good run. As a long time fan of the show I just can't get excited for it anymore. The last time I actually got excited was when Capaldi was announced as the Doctor because I was hoping it was going back to its roots. It didn't. Capaldi's run was just Mart Smith episodes,but with Capaldi.
There's also tons of people who aren't happy about the casting of Jodie and I do see where they're coming from. This feels like pandering. If they had done this years ago with the casting of a female Doctor it would have been ok since it would not be the first time they had done this.
Also Chibnall as showrunner does not impress me. Wasn't he the one who wrote Dinosaurs on a spaceship? Ergh. He may have done Broadchurch as well,but clearly the guy is not good at sci fi. He does better with dramas.
Trust me I wish I could be excited for this upcoming season I just can't and I think Doctor Who is literally on life support. I think they thought by casting a female Doctor it would make fans interested again. Turns out the plan mostly backfired.
Probably. I predict the first episode will get big ratings and headlines will be "Female Doctor Who Gets Biggest Ratings Evaaar!" then a massive drop will happen.
I think people will tune in for Jodie's episode out of curiosity then I think they'll stop watching. Trust me this is no doubt gonna be Ghostbusters 2016 all over again. Hell even the marketing is similar to Ghostbusters 2016.
Post by michaellevenson on Oct 30, 2017 8:14:16 GMT
No, it won't be the last. Firstly it would be an admission of failure to give our new Doctor just one season, the BBC ,never admits to failure. Secondly so long as overseas sales are healthy and money is made the show will go on. I thought the last season was the best for some time. So sorry to see Capaldi leave, he is one of my top five Doctors, behind Tom Baker, Tennant, Pertwee, and Troughton.
On the contrary, the show will get a new lease on life just like it did with Matt Smith.
You say, “Capaldi's run was just Mart Smith episodes, but with Capaldi” but then you bellyache about any changes.
You say, “I do see where they're coming from. This feels like pandering” which is just conservative code for “they should have cast another white male; women and minorities not allowed.” This same thing happened when Ridley and Boyega were cast in the “The Force Awakens.” It happened with the Ghostbusters remake. It happens whenever a woman or minority (or minority woman) gets a major role that could also have been played by a male. There was even backlash when a woman was cast as Wonder Woman! (The backlash was really about having a female centered superhero in the first place.) It turned out to be one of the most successful superhero films ever.
You say, “I think they thought by casting a female Doctor it would make fans interested again. Turns out the plan mostly backfired.” Well, we will just see about that, won’t we. I don’t think you speak for even a large minority of Doctor Who fans. The right-wing is certainly the noisiest and loud-mouthed of anybody else, but how loud and how often they shout doesn’t represent a consensus of opinion.
I think people will tune in for Jodie's episode out of curiosity then I think they'll stop watching.
That's where I'm at right now. After Moffat and his horrible "Bill" SJW character are forever gone from the Whoiverse, I'm willing to check out the new incarnation of the show to see if Chris Chibnall can salvage it. That being said, I am not at all optimistic. The odds are overwhelming that the guy who gave us "Dinosaurs on a Starship" won't be able to make Doctor Who credible or watchable again. Still, we cannot know for sure until we've seen it.
Trust me this is no doubt gonna be Ghostbusters 2016 all over again. Hell even the marketing is similar to Ghostbusters 2016.
I'd agree with you to a point, in that they seem to be trying the old "anyone who has legitimate criticisms of this is obviously a SEXIST who can't stand to see strong female characters in a role formerly done by men!" angle.
That being said, last season of Doctor Who ("Series 10") was much more of a "Ghostbusters 2016", in that audiences could tell from the very first trailer that it would be worthless SJW garbage.
No, it won't be the last. Firstly it would be an admission of failure to give our new Doctor just one season, the BBC ,never admits to failure.
They'll probably just do what they did in '89: quietly announce the show is having a "temporary hiatus" for a year or two and then they will be back with new adventures in no time... and then years and years pass with no new announcements and no Who on TV.
Secondly so long as overseas sales are healthy and money is made the show will go on.
You do realize the ratings in the USA are WORSE than they are in the UK, right? "Bill" drove this show into the ground.
Wow! Nice to see a consensus about a subject. Nobody has sniped at anybody yet for daring to suggest that Who is struggling - or that the casting of Jodie is questionable.
Yes, I concur with the view that there will (quite naturally) be big ratings for the first episode - and that Jodie will be proclaimed "an instant hit!", to be followed by a massive tumble by people who decide that THE TWIN DILEMMA and TIME AND THE RANI weren't all that bad after all in comparison to what they had just watched.
As for ending the show, this is now a cash cow for the BBC and they will be reluctant to take it out in the barn and shoot the poor thing. Just yet. But the end is nearer than they would like to admit, I think.
Yes, a long, unannounced rest, as already mentioned on here.
I wonder if there will then be a range of novels with the phrase "Too straightforward and traditional for the small screen!" emblazoned across them? That would be nice!