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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 19:03:38 GMT
So basically, he wants these movie to be all the same, completely devoid of anything resembling fun, and heaven forbid enjoyable. This guy you quotes sounds like a total loser. He wants Marvel to experiment with a more serious film, something like Logan. He's right that the films are playing it too safe with a focus on films for the entire family. He wants Marvel to branch out and experiment with R rated films or more darker, less jokey, movies. They don't have to completely stop making family friendly movies, but it wouldn't hurt to experiment with a more darker and more serious film. Imagine a Punisher movie, with a R rating, made under Marvel Studios? That would be awesome! Also I like how you call him a loser, just because he wants Marvel Studios to experiment more. Well, he's wrong. Oh, please, if they were playing it safe, we never would have gotten G uardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, or Doctor Strange, or Black Panther, or Miss/Captain Marvel. Comic books are not "War and Peace", and the films based on them shouldn't be all doom 'n' gloom, either. And Marvel HAS branched out. It has the Netflix shows, which are exactly what that moron is asking for. Oh, and just so you know, part of the reason comic books are dying is because they've gotten to the point where we can't allow kids to get into them anymore. Comic books and films based on them SHOULD be aimed at a wide audience. They're pulp fiction, they're popcorn blockbusters. That's the point. So sorry the MCU can't meet your arthouse standards. Their films are serious enough. The fact that you think they need to add more swearing, blood, nudity, and gore says a lot about that guy and you. The MCU experiments more than any of the other studios, and just going darker is not experimenting. That's pandering to manchild fans of Zack Snyder or Alan Moore. Hell, even Alan Moore seems to getting tired of "grimdark" approach to comic books and their movies. I know Frank Miller certainly is.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 26, 2017 19:19:40 GMT
He wants Marvel to experiment with a more serious film, something like Logan. He's right that the films are playing it too safe with a focus on films for the entire family. He wants Marvel to branch out and experiment with R rated films or more darker, less jokey, movies. They don't have to completely stop making family friendly movies, but it wouldn't hurt to experiment with a more darker and more serious film. Imagine a Punisher movie, with a R rating, made under Marvel Studios? That would be awesome! Also I like how you call him a loser, just because he wants Marvel Studios to experiment more. Well, he's wrong. Oh, please, if they were playing it safe, we never would have gotten G uardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, or Doctor Strange, or Black Panther, or Miss/Captain Marvel. Comic books are not "War and Peace", and the films based on them shouldn't be all doom 'n' gloom, either. And Marvel HAS branched out. It has the Netflix shows, which are exactly what that moron is asking for. Oh, and just so you know, part of the reason comic books are dying is because they've gotten to the point where we can't allow kids to get into them anymore. Comic books and films based on them SHOULD be aimed at a wide audience. They're pulp fiction, they're popcorn blockbusters. That's the point. So sorry the MCU can't meet your arthouse standards. Their films are serious enough. The fact that you think they need to add more swearing, blood, nudity, and gore says a lot about that guy and you. The MCU experiments more than any of the other studios, and just going darker is not experimenting. That's pandering to manchild fans of Zack Snyder or Alan Moore. Hell, even Alan Moore seems to getting tired of "grimdark" approach to comic books and their movies. I know Frank Miller certainly is. ^ This, all of this.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 26, 2017 19:23:22 GMT
So basically, he wants these movie to be all the same, completely devoid of anything resembling fun, and heaven forbid enjoyable. This guy you quotes sounds like a total loser. He wants Marvel to experiment with a more serious film, something like Logan. He's right that the films are playing it too safe with a focus on films for the entire family. He wants Marvel to branch out and experiment with R rated films or more darker, less jokey, movies. They don't have to completely stop making family friendly movies, but it wouldn't hurt to experiment with a more darker and more serious film. Imagine a Punisher movie, with a R rating, made under Marvel Studios? That would be awesome! Also I like how you call him a loser, just because he wants Marvel Studios to experiment more. Well, he might like Black Panther because that doesn't look like your "family friendly" Marvel movie put out by the MCU.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 19:23:56 GMT
Well, he's wrong. Oh, please, if they were playing it safe, we never would have gotten G uardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, or Doctor Strange, or Black Panther, or Miss/Captain Marvel. Comic books are not "War and Peace", and the films based on them shouldn't be all doom 'n' gloom, either. And Marvel HAS branched out. It has the Netflix shows, which are exactly what that moron is asking for. Oh, and just so you know, part of the reason comic books are dying is because they've gotten to the point where we can't allow kids to get into them anymore. Comic books and films based on them SHOULD be aimed at a wide audience. They're pulp fiction, they're popcorn blockbusters. That's the point. So sorry the MCU can't meet your arthouse standards. Their films are serious enough. The fact that you think they need to add more swearing, blood, nudity, and gore says a lot about that guy and you. The MCU experiments more than any of the other studios, and just going darker is not experimenting. That's pandering to manchild fans of Zack Snyder or Alan Moore. Hell, even Alan Moore seems to getting tired of "grimdark" approach to comic books and their movies. I know Frank Miller certainly is. ^ This, all of this. And since when does "experimenting" equate turning everything into a Charles Bronson, Clint Eastwood, or Bruce Willis films? We got an example of why the grimdark approach does not work for a lot of comic book characters last year with Batman v Superman, and before that with Man of Steel. Superman films have no business being that joyless.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 26, 2017 19:39:12 GMT
So basically, he wants these movie to be all the same, completely devoid of anything resembling fun, and heaven forbid enjoyable. This guy you quotes sounds like a total loser. He wants Marvel to experiment with a more serious film, something like Logan. He's right that the films are playing it too safe with a focus on films for the entire family. He wants Marvel to branch out and experiment with R rated films or more darker, less jokey, movies. They don't have to completely stop making family friendly movies, but it wouldn't hurt to experiment with a more darker and more serious film. Imagine a Punisher movie, with a R rating, made under Marvel Studios? That would be awesome! Also I like how you call him a loser, just because he wants Marvel Studios to experiment more. ^^^ All this, in it's entirety squared².
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 19:43:53 GMT
Raptor is not allowed to watch R-rated movies. That's why he's opposed to this suggestion.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 26, 2017 20:06:14 GMT
He wants Marvel to experiment with a more serious film, something like Logan. He's right that the films are playing it too safe with a focus on films for the entire family. He wants Marvel to branch out and experiment with R rated films or more darker, less jokey, movies. They don't have to completely stop making family friendly movies, but it wouldn't hurt to experiment with a more darker and more serious film. Imagine a Punisher movie, with a R rating, made under Marvel Studios? That would be awesome! Also I like how you call him a loser, just because he wants Marvel Studios to experiment more. Well, he's wrong. Oh, please, if they were playing it safe, we never would have gotten G uardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, or Doctor Strange, or Black Panther, or Miss/Captain Marvel. Comic books are not "War and Peace", and the films based on them shouldn't be all doom 'n' gloom, either. And Marvel HAS branched out. It has the Netflix shows, which are exactly what that moron is asking for. Oh, and just so you know, part of the reason comic books are dying is because they've gotten to the point where we can't allow kids to get into them anymore. Comic books and films based on them SHOULD be aimed at a wide audience. They're pulp fiction, they're popcorn blockbusters. That's the point. So sorry the MCU can't meet your arthouse standards. Their films are serious enough. The fact that you think they need to add more swearing, blood, nudity, and gore says a lot about that guy and you. The MCU experiments more than any of the other studios, and just going darker is not experimenting. That's pandering to manchild fans of Zack Snyder or Alan Moore. Hell, even Alan Moore seems to getting tired of "grimdark" approach to comic books and their movies. I know Frank Miller certainly is. Several things: 1. I do not hate the MCU. You can critized things you like/a fan of. For example, I LOVE Star Wars but I have critized the prequels AND the Disney films. The difference is I'm not afraid of saying something negative about the MCU. 2. I'M NOT SAYING EVERY GODDAMN MOVIE NEEDS TO BE FILLED WITH BLOOD AND VIOLENCE! All I said was that I would have been delighted to see a R rated Punisher movie made by Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige. I trust that he would treat it better than what liongate did. 3. I agree with you that Guardians of the Galaxy was a risk in a sense that it was a unknown property to the general audience, especially since it's a D-listed team. Only the hardcore comic reader would be familiar with the brand. But it still stuck with the formula, so it did play it safe. Not saying it's a bad thing. 4. We were not asking for marvel to change it so that it's always dark. We just want to see movie or two that played around with it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 20:10:20 GMT
Well, he's wrong. Oh, please, if they were playing it safe, we never would have gotten G uardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, or Doctor Strange, or Black Panther, or Miss/Captain Marvel. Comic books are not "War and Peace", and the films based on them shouldn't be all doom 'n' gloom, either. And Marvel HAS branched out. It has the Netflix shows, which are exactly what that moron is asking for. Oh, and just so you know, part of the reason comic books are dying is because they've gotten to the point where we can't allow kids to get into them anymore. Comic books and films based on them SHOULD be aimed at a wide audience. They're pulp fiction, they're popcorn blockbusters. That's the point. So sorry the MCU can't meet your arthouse standards. Their films are serious enough. The fact that you think they need to add more swearing, blood, nudity, and gore says a lot about that guy and you. The MCU experiments more than any of the other studios, and just going darker is not experimenting. That's pandering to manchild fans of Zack Snyder or Alan Moore. Hell, even Alan Moore seems to getting tired of "grimdark" approach to comic books and their movies. I know Frank Miller certainly is. Several things: 1. I do not hate the MCU. You can critized things you like/a fan of. For example, I LOVE Star Wars but I have critized the prequels AND the Disney films. The difference is I'm not afraid of saying something negative about the MCU. 2. I'M NOT SAYING EVERY GODDAMN MOVIE NEEDS TO BE FILLED WITH BLOOD AND VIOLENCE! All I said was that I would have been delighted to see a R rated Punisher movie made by Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige. I trust that he would treat it better than what liongate did. 3. I agree with you that Guardians of the Galaxy was a risk in a sense that it was a unknown property to the general audience, especially since it's a D-listed team. Only the hardcore comic reader would be familiar with the brand. But it still stuck with the formula, so it did play it safe. Not saying it's a bad thing. 4. We were not asking for marvel to change it so that it's always dark. We just want to see movie or two that played around with it. 1. I'm not afraid to criticize the MCU, either. There's just nothing to criticize regarding the tone they're chosen. 2. We're getting a full Punisher series instead of just a standalone movie. I'm not seeing the issue here. With a 13 episode Netflix series, they can tell more story now than they could with just one two hour movie. 3. Guardians was anything but safe. It was a weird enough property and they let Gunn run wild enough with that it could have easily failed. 4. You might not be asking Marvel to charge everything, but that asshole you quoted certainly is.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 26, 2017 23:15:48 GMT
Several things: 1. I do not hate the MCU. You can critized things you like/a fan of. For example, I LOVE Star Wars but I have critized the prequels AND the Disney films. The difference is I'm not afraid of saying something negative about the MCU. 2. I'M NOT SAYING EVERY GODDAMN MOVIE NEEDS TO BE FILLED WITH BLOOD AND VIOLENCE! All I said was that I would have been delighted to see a R rated Punisher movie made by Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige. I trust that he would treat it better than what liongate did. 3. I agree with you that Guardians of the Galaxy was a risk in a sense that it was a unknown property to the general audience, especially since it's a D-listed team. Only the hardcore comic reader would be familiar with the brand. But it still stuck with the formula, so it did play it safe. Not saying it's a bad thing. 4. We were not asking for marvel to change it so that it's always dark. We just want to see movie or two that played around with it. 1. I'm not afraid to criticize the MCU, either. There's just nothing to criticize regarding the tone they're chosen. 2. We're getting a full Punisher series instead of just a standalone movie. I'm not seeing the issue here. With a 13 episode Netflix series, they can tell more story now than they could with just one two hour movie. 3. Guardians was anything but safe. It was a weird enough property and they let Gunn run wild enough with that it could have easily failed. 4. You might not be asking Marvel to charge everything, but that asshole you quoted certainly is. Don't get me wrong here, i'm absolutely excited for the netflix series. Buuuut i also would love to see a movie as well. Hell a Ghost Rider and Blade movie, both R rated, would be welcome as well. What's up with you constantly referring people who have a different opinion as you as a asshole? It's pretty rude!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 23:19:05 GMT
1. I'm not afraid to criticize the MCU, either. There's just nothing to criticize regarding the tone they're chosen. 2. We're getting a full Punisher series instead of just a standalone movie. I'm not seeing the issue here. With a 13 episode Netflix series, they can tell more story now than they could with just one two hour movie. 3. Guardians was anything but safe. It was a weird enough property and they let Gunn run wild enough with that it could have easily failed. 4. You might not be asking Marvel to charge everything, but that asshole you quoted certainly is. Don't get me wrong here, i'm absolutely excited for the netflix series. Buuuut i also would love to see a movie as well. Hell a Ghost Rider and Blade movie, both R rated, would be welcome as well. What's up with you constantly referring people who have a different opinion as you as a asshole? It's pretty rude! Fair enough. I call the guy an asshole because that's how he comes across.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 28, 2018 15:16:55 GMT
So basically, he wants these movie to be all the same, completely devoid of anything resembling fun, and heaven forbid enjoyable. This guy you quotes sounds like a total loser. He wants Marvel to experiment with a more serious film, something like Logan. He's right that the films are playing it too safe with a focus on films for the entire family. He wants Marvel to branch out and experiment with R rated films or more darker, less jokey, movies. They don't have to completely stop making family friendly movies, but it wouldn't hurt to experiment with a more darker and more serious film. Imagine a Punisher movie, with a R rating, made under Marvel Studios? That would be awesome! Also I like how you call him a loser, just because he wants Marvel Studios to experiment more. You know I miss Raptor. I wish he didn't delete his account.
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Post by summers8 on Jul 28, 2018 22:14:10 GMT
Ant Man 2 anyone?
how does a movie top a worse tone with thomas the tank engine in the first movie.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 28, 2018 23:29:53 GMT
Well does "Infinity War" count as "experimenting with a more serious film"?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 28, 2018 23:44:27 GMT
Well does "Infinity War" count as "experimenting with a more serious film"? It's definitely a step.
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Post by harpospoke on Jul 29, 2018 19:15:45 GMT
You know people have an agenda when they can't see the difference between Winter Soldier and GotG. We just got Infinity War and Ant-Man and the Wasp back-to-back but this kind of claim persists. Some just see what they want to see I guess.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 29, 2018 20:23:02 GMT
You know people have an agenda when they can't see the difference between Winter Soldier and GotG. We just got Infinity War and Ant-Man and the Wasp back-to-back but this kind of claim persists. Some just see what they want to see I guess. And a back to back Thor Ragnarok and Black Panther... which are tonally very different as well yet claims like this persist.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 30, 2018 0:25:36 GMT
Well said. I think its very telling that the people working in the MCU tend to be very well-spoken and likeable sorts. Lord Death Man is loving the fact that you can still reply to and like a dead man's posts. Hee hee hee...
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 30, 2018 11:58:56 GMT
Wait, there's a formula for action movies?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 4, 2018 15:22:46 GMT
I still stand by my comment and even though I can't find the thread, I 100% stand by my statement that certain characters need an R rating to full do them Justice.
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 4, 2018 20:41:05 GMT
I still stand by my comment and even though I can't find the thread, I 100% stand by my statement that certain characters need an R rating to full do them Justice. To be fair, majority of these characters need R ratings to do them justice. Guys like Hulk and Thor? Even Hawkeye? You won't get to fully display their potentials without quite a lot of blood involved. That said, the ability to make successful movies for these characters while still being limited by a PG13 is quite an achievement on its own.
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