US Navy rescues sailors and 2 dogs lost at sea for months

Oct 27, 2017 5:09:08 GMT DC-Fan said:

This is a good story: US Navy rescues sailors and their 2 dogs lost at sea for months

There's an MCU fan who repeatedly complained that Diana and Steve sailed from Themyscira to London in a sailboat and their boat wasn't spotted by anyone. Well, as the article about the boat being lost at sea and no one spotting it for months proves, it's hard to spot a small boat in the middle of the vast ocean even in the daytime.

Diana and Steve traveled by night so it's practically impossible to spot a small boat in the middle of the ocean at night. So once again, MCU fans fail in their attempt to discredit the DCEU.

DC-Fan, stop. You're not helping the rest of us dc fans look like the sane ones...

Those ladies on that sail boat didn't know what they were doing. Their boat had sails and they didn't use them. duh.

Oct 28, 2017 0:41:27 GMT DC-Fan said:

Oct 27, 2017 15:18:18 GMT lenlenlen1 said:

DC-Fan, stop. You're not helping the rest of us dc fans look like the sane ones...

Those ladies on that sail boat didn't know what they were doing. Their boat had sails and they didn't use them. duh.

You obviously didn't get the point. It isn't about how those lades got lost or whether or not they knew how to sail. The point is that they were a single small boat in the middle of the vast ocean and no one spotted them for months. Because it's hard to spot a single small boat in the middle of the vast ocean, even during daytime. So it's practically impossible to spot a single small boat in the middle of the vast ocean at night, which is when Diana and Steve traveled from Themyscira to London.

As for the speed of the boat, like I've explained before, Hippolyta said they received many gifts from the Gods. The Lasso of Truth, which has divine powers and can compel anyone to tell the truth, was 1 such gift from the Gods. The boat was probably another gift from the Gods and thus (like the Lasso of Truth) has divine powers and that's why it can travel long distances in a short time.

MCU fans who don't know anything about Greek mythology try to dismiss that the Gods often gave humans gifts that had divine powers. The Gods gave Perseus a helmet that made the wearer invisible. The Gods gave the Amazons a lasso that can compel anyone to tell the truth. So its not unreasonable to say that the Gods gave the Amazons a boat that can travel long distances over a short time.

the difference is though Tahiti to Hawaii is a distance of 2700 miles, with nothing but a few small islands inbetween so long as you stay on course, which they didn't they got turned around and wound up 900 miles off the coast of japan which is 4000+ miles to the west of Hawaii, and much like with Tahiti has no major land masses between it and Hawaii, they literally sailed  & got severely lost in the most isolated ocean on the planet, Steve's plane he crashes has at optimal levels only got a range of around a couple hundred miles at best, that's several thousands of miles to around 200, the difference is the equitable to the difference between the size of a bath and the size of a swimming pool as in they aren't really the same thing.

Add to that the idioicy of the fact a german ship or ships just followed him to the area meaning they know a enemy spy just stole the secret details of their most dangerous weapon, that they sent several boats of soldiers to find and retrieve it bbut they never came back which means theres a very good likelihood the enemy is still in the area with the notebook, this would mean the germans would have likely had boats searching the area to find him, given that the movie hinges on a short timeframe it's not like Trevor was just on the island long enough that the germans simply gave up looking.

Oh and magic boat thing is dumb given even if it could move at insane speeds those speeds would be apparent, they wouldn't appear to be sailing peacefully at a comfortable pace if the sodding thing was moving at even 50mph, they would feel the effects of that, Diana's hair would be blowing like mad to say the very least, also if it can move so fast why is it not shown that? why would Steve hitch a lift if the boat can move at high speed anyway, given that tugboats of the day didn't do more than 20mph, which means the boat they were in wouldn't be doing more than that, which means even at best speed it would take them traveling in a straight line back to where Steve came from ie the closest known mainland they knew of a whooping 10-13hrs just to get back to where Steve started from, no where near blighty..you utter plank.

Oct 28, 2017 15:26:36 GMT DC-Fan said:

Oct 28, 2017 6:42:51 GMT dazz said:

Oh and magic boat thing is dumb given even if it could move at insane speeds those speeds would be apparent, they wouldn't appear to be sailing peacefully at a comfortable pace if the sodding thing was moving at even 50mph, they would feel the effects of that, Diana's hair would be blowing like mad to say the very least, also if it can move so fast why is it not shown that? why would Steve hitch a lift if the boat can move at high speed anyway, given that tugboats of the day didn't do more than 20mph, which means the boat they were in wouldn't be doing more than that, which means even at best speed it would take them traveling in a straight line back to where Steve came from ie the closest known mainland they knew of a whooping 10-13hrs just to get back to where Steve started from, no where near blighty..you utter plank.

The Gods created a "magical" mist or fog around the entire island of Themyscira to hide it for outsiders. The Gods also gave the Amazons a "magic" lasso that compels anyone to tell the truth. Yet you MCU fans are complaining about the Gods possibly giving the Amazons a boat that can travel long distances over a short time?

If the Gods can create a "magical" mist or fog that hides the entire island of Themyscira and a "magic" lasso that compels anyone to tell the truth, why do you MCU fans think it's impossible for the Gods to create a boat that can travel long distances in a short time?

See I  added back the part you ignored, it's not that the idea of a special boat is impossible but the fact you try usingt that as an excuse when NOTHING about it, those scenes or anything else in the movie suggests it is the case, seeing how the island being hidden, the lasso's power, why the gods are no more, why Diana can kill gods and so on are explicitly explained in the film, this key piece of information is absent.

Did the gods give them gifts? yes they did but ask yourself this, why did the gods give them super fast magical boats if they were never meant to leave the protection of the island? what exactly is the need for a super speedy sail boat when theres no need to go more than a mile off shore? Also though they gave mortals gifts those gifts do have limitations, Steve could resist the lasso to an extent it wasn't like it turned him into a robot unable to not try and keep things secret, the protection of the island is limited to, it's not impossible to reach it's merely shrouded by fog, not even surrounded by hard to navigate rock formations making accidentally sailing through the fog to the island unlikely.

Also not an "MCU" fan I'm a CBM fan unlike you I'm unbiased towards studios I judge each production by it's own merits, you on the other hand are a sycophantic lapdog without an iota of original thought or common sense, an inability to make any true justifiable argument to back up your fanatical obsession or in fact the nutsack big enough to admit to when you are wrong, you used a real life event that's not even remotely comparable given the scope  & location differentials to justify a silly movie plot hole, guess what we know ships can be lost at sea it's been happening for 1000's of years you demented sphincter.

Also your magic boat defence doesn't explain why as I said if the thing could move like a speedboat why they needed to hitch a ride with a tugboat only capable of going around 15-20mph to make good time, explain that then go on I fucking dare you to try.

Oct 29, 2017 2:03:04 GMT DC-Fan said:

Oct 28, 2017 23:38:59 GMT dazz said:

why did the gods give them super fast magical boats if they were never meant to leave the protection of the island? what exactly is the need for a super speedy sail boat when theres no need to go more than a mile off shore?

Diana is the Godkiller. Her destiny is to defeat Ares. Zeus hid Themyscira from outsiders with a "magical" mist or fog. So Zeus wasn't expecting Diana to wait her entire life for Ares to find Themyscira and then come to Themyscira to battle Diana. Zeus was expected Diana to be trained and when she was ready, leave Themyscira to find Ares and defeat Ares.

So Zeus' plan was for Diana to use the boat when she left Themyscira. That's why Zeus would give the Amazons a boat with divine powers, in addition to a lasso with divine powers. Like I said before, this isn't unusual in Greek mythology. The Gods also gave Perseus a helmet that makes the wearer invisible.

Oct 28, 2017 23:38:59 GMT dazz said:

Also though they gave mortals gifts those gifts do have limitations, Steve could resist the lasso to an extent it wasn't like it turned him into a robot unable to not try and keep things secret, the protection of the island is limited to, it's not impossible to reach it's merely shrouded by fog, not even surrounded by hard to navigate rock formations making accidentally sailing through the fog to the island unlikely.

Also your magic boat defence doesn't explain why as I said if the thing could move like a speedboat why they needed to hitch a ride with a tugboat only capable of going around 15-20mph

You just said the gifts from the Gods have limitations. Now you're asking why the boat had the limitation of needing to be tugged up the Thames?

Yes because me saying the gifts have limitations does not stop me from asking you to explain how exactly you justify the magic boat no longer being magical?

AAs the question stands it gives you the benefit of the doubt for the first part as in ok then boats magical but then why does the boat require a tow from such a slow tugboat to make good time, did it get tired?, does the magic only extend a few hundred miles from Themiscara? did Diana forget to charge the sodding thing? the question there is if it's magic why is it no longer magic by the time they reach London?

But then it begs the question if Diana was meant to use the magic boat to find Ares quickly then why cant it make it to London in such good time without a tow, Ares could have been anywhere.

Just admit the boat stuff is a cock up, it doesn't ruin the film or anything but is just a typical Hollywood oversight we can all have fun poking holes at, doesn't diminish the enjoyment of the film at all but it is a goof all the same and pretty much every film ever made has several of them, some are even more enjoyable because of them.

Also if you haven't check out this vid explaining why the boat stuff makes no sense it's funny and meant to be taken as a joke but still shows it's just a bunch of bollocks to move the plot along that they put no real thought into.