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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 1, 2017 12:34:39 GMT
Little bit sensitive? Why go back a decade when we have more recent samples? Suicide Squad was just desperation. It is something that should have been done after other movies like a solo Batman to set up the new Joker & Harley who is very new to mass audiences. The movie had some decent things, but they spent too much time building the Joker/Harley relationship & the villain sucked. We should have seen at least 3 of the characters in prior films BvS was horrible in so many ways. Batman was not Batman. Superman was not Superman. Elektra & Ghost Rider aren't MCU. It's perfectly logical to compare MCU to DCEU DC vs Marvel is realistically as normal as the old Star Trek vs Star Wars from the 80s. Both franchises have a devoted following. There's a lot of crossover. I wish DC would get it together. My feeling is it's the studio kibitsing messing it up when they need to let the comic book guys run the show like Marvel did. As for the OP-no. I doubt he wants it. It likely only works in certain settings. I don't see it working for Cap or Iron Man. The thread is about the director of Thor and his possibly future involvement with other Marvel movies. There's no reason at all to compare what was said in this thread to the DCEU which wasn't even mentioned. If you wanted to make a more recent comparison there's there's dozens of shitty movies that came out in the last few years. Compare it to Transformers 5, Monster Trucks, Snatched, The Mummy, The Emoji movie etc. People should be able to criticize a Marvel movie without it inevitably turning into Marvel vs DC every time. None of those movies are MCU movies. The MCU has yet to make one stinker movie. ONE. Every one has been massively critically and financially successful. Why is their even a 'war' between the DCEU and the MCU? The MCU already won years ago.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 1, 2017 17:05:09 GMT
The thread is about the director of Thor and his possibly future involvement with other Marvel movies. There's no reason at all to compare what was said in this thread to the DCEU which wasn't even mentioned. If you wanted to make a more recent comparison there's there's dozens of shitty movies that came out in the last few years. Compare it to Transformers 5, Monster Trucks, Snatched, The Mummy, The Emoji movie etc. People should be able to criticize a Marvel movie without it inevitably turning into Marvel vs DC every time. None of those movies are MCU movies. The MCU has yet to make one stinker movie. ONE. Every one has been massively critically and financially successful. Why is their even a 'war' between the DCEU and the MCU? The MCU already won years ago. "there is no war here unless you brought it here"..only people with diminished self worth would talk this belligerent way and declare themselves victor. First, your martial war analogy is badly thought through, no war is won as long as the enemy is still fighting, battles may be won, but not the war. Try again. If we use that silly martial metaphor of yours the following can be said for the upstarting DCEU: There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere. Glad I could cool your belligerent fanboy jets a bit.
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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 1, 2017 17:37:17 GMT
None of those movies are MCU movies. The MCU has yet to make one stinker movie. ONE. Every one has been massively critically and financially successful. Why is their even a 'war' between the DCEU and the MCU? The MCU already won years ago. "there is no war here unless you brought it here"..only people with diminished self worth would talk this belligerent way and declare themselves victor. First, your martial war analogy is badly thought through, no war is won as long as the enemy is still fighting, battles may be won, but not the war. Try again. If we use that silly martial metaphor of yours the following can be said for the upstarting DCEU: There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere. Glad I could cool your belligerent fanboy jets a bit. I HATE the score for WW so there is that. The music sucks. None of this changes the fact that Marvel has made what now, 17 movies, and all have been good. Thor 2 was probably the worst one and it is Citizen Kane next to SS or BvS. Seriously. Most of this is opinion and it is a hilariously minority opinion.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 1, 2017 17:45:13 GMT
He's still clinging to that Makeup Oscar? This is really getting pathetic...
As for WW, the buzz around there is thanks to the artificial boosters and political reasoning. Not the content of the film.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 1, 2017 18:12:54 GMT
I HATE the score for WW so there is that. The music sucks. None of this changes the fact that Marvel has made what now, 17 movies, and all have been good. Thor 2 was probably the worst one and it is Citizen Kane next to SS or BvS. Seriously. Most of this is opinion and it is a hilariously minority opinion. I know you HATE the score, we discussed this before. Btw I HATE Zimmer as a whole, but that does not change the fact that these scores are already considered iconic and awesome (by the tone deaf) even though we may in good taste agree that they suck CBM balls. We are the proud minority with that. Good is genuinely subjective, I find many MCU films abysmal and unwatchable such as Hulk,Thor 2, IM2, GotG (both), AoU, or just mediocre and forgettable (most of the rest). careful with invoking the Kane when discussing CBMs! In my book: SS: 3.5/10, Thor 2: 4.5/10, BvS - UE: 6.5/10 no, all in the list presented was facts, not my opinion: such as Oscars, grosses, media attention, first in CBM history etc. My opinions are not important in this context, and I am never sheepish with having a minority opinion, I am proud not to be a sheeple.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 1, 2017 18:16:03 GMT
He's still clinging to that Makeup Oscar? This is really getting pathetic... As for WW, the buzz around there is thanks to the artificial boosters and political reasoning. Not the content of the film. your Oscar envy is noted and appreciated, sam. Thank you, it is so gratifying.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 1, 2017 18:25:06 GMT
He's still clinging to that Makeup Oscar? This is really getting pathetic... As for WW, the buzz around there is thanks to the artificial boosters and political reasoning. Not the content of the film. your Oscar envy is noted and appreciated, sam. Thank you, it is so gratifying. It's more pity for you clinging to that like it means something. I mean, when GOTG2 wins an Oscar for VFX you won't see any of us bringing it up all the time.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 1, 2017 18:32:55 GMT
your Oscar envy is noted and appreciated, sam. Thank you, it is so gratifying. It's more pity for you clinging to that like it means something. It means a lot to you apparently, as you cannot stop stressing how pathetic and pitiful that Oscar is (even when I'm in conversation with another gentleman). You won't bring it up, cause it won't win. If it does it will be like with the FraggleRock-outgrossing-JL thing, you amply celebrate it before it even happened.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 1, 2017 18:36:34 GMT
]It means a lot to you apparently, as you cannot stop stressing how pathetic and pitiful that Oscar is (even when I'm in conversation with another gentleman). Bringing up a makeup Oscar like it's a Best Picture Oscar...is pathetic. You don't see the Mad Max fans bringing up their Technical Award Oscars. We'll see. As for Thor, we're merely celebrating how it's done as well as it has coming after Dark World. Hell, at this rate Ragnarok might get some Technical Oscar awards noms or wins.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 1, 2017 19:22:38 GMT
]It means a lot to you apparently, as you cannot stop stressing how pathetic and pitiful that Oscar is (even when I'm in conversation with another gentleman). Bringing up a makeup Oscar like it's a Best Picture Oscar...is pathetic. You don't see the Mad Max fans bringing up their Technical Award Oscars. We'll see. As for Thor, we're merely celebrating how it's done as well as it has coming after Dark World. Hell, at this rate Ragnarok might get some Technical Oscar awards noms or wins. Sam, correct me if I'm wrong - and heaven knows I frequently am - if Thor Ragnarok opens to 100 million or more domestically, would that not mark the third time in a single year this has happened for Marvel and the MCU? And, relying on your depth of knowledge of course, isn't that some kind of record for a Hollywood studio?
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Post by miike80 on Nov 1, 2017 19:27:08 GMT
He's still clinging to that Makeup Oscar? This is really getting pathetic... As for WW, the buzz around there is thanks to the artificial boosters and political reasoning. Not the content of the film. Sure,if by the buzz around here you mean you
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 19:41:11 GMT
He's still clinging to that Makeup Oscar? This is really getting pathetic... As for WW, the buzz around there is thanks to the artificial boosters and political reasoning. Not the content of the film. Sure,if by the buzz around here you mean you Or you.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 1, 2017 19:45:35 GMT
Bringing up a makeup Oscar like it's a Best Picture Oscar...is pathetic. You don't see the Mad Max fans bringing up their Technical Award Oscars. We'll see. As for Thor, we're merely celebrating how it's done as well as it has coming after Dark World. Hell, at this rate Ragnarok might get some Technical Oscar awards noms or wins. Sam, correct me if I'm wrong - and heaven knows I frequently am - if Thor Ragnarok opens to 100 million or more domestically, would that not mark the third time in a single year this has happened for Marvel and the MCU? And, relying on your depth of knowledge of course, isn't that some kind of record for a Hollywood studio? I'll have to check on that...it's certainly a possibility.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 1, 2017 19:47:19 GMT
He's still clinging to that Makeup Oscar? This is really getting pathetic... As for WW, the buzz around there is thanks to the artificial boosters and political reasoning. Not the content of the film. Sure,if by the buzz around here you mean you I'm referring to stuff that others on these forums aren't willing to acknowledge.
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Post by miike80 on Nov 1, 2017 19:47:43 GMT
Sure,if by the buzz around here you mean you Or you. I don't remember saying that Wonder Woman or Logan got good reviews because of artificial boosters. Or any MCU movie for that matter
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 19:51:04 GMT
I don't remember saying that Wonder Woman or Logan got good reviews because of artificial boosters. Or any MCU movie for that matter I remember you helping DennisReynolds start trouble, because you enjoy trolling.
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Post by miike80 on Nov 1, 2017 20:12:11 GMT
I don't remember saying that Wonder Woman or Logan got good reviews because of artificial boosters. Or any MCU movie for that matter I remember you helping DennisReynolds start trouble, because you enjoy trolling. You're hilarious! it's not like you opened a topic on DC boards about how bad BVS is. Because that's not trolling, right?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 20:14:18 GMT
I remember you helping DennisReynolds start trouble, because you enjoy trolling. You're hilarious! it's not like you opened a topic on DC boards about how bad BVS is. Because that's not trolling, right? I posted a man's honest review of the film. There's no blame to had. You, on the other hand, sided with a well-known troll who refuses to just discuss things with people.
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Post by miike80 on Nov 1, 2017 20:17:13 GMT
You're hilarious! it's not like you opened a topic on DC boards about how bad BVS is. Because that's not trolling, right? I posted a man's honest review of the film. There's no blame to had. You, on the other hand, sided with a well-known troll who refuses to just discuss things with people. yeah, a very relevant opinion about a movie that came out 1 and a half years ago. in no way you were trying to stir things up
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 1, 2017 20:19:24 GMT
He's still clinging to that Makeup Oscar? This is really getting pathetic... As for WW, the buzz around there is thanks to the artificial boosters and political reasoning. Not the content of the film. The Oscar buzz for Wonder Woman seems to be dying out, and if Justice League gets horrible reviews, DC fans can kiss their Best Picture nomination goodbye.
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