9 Big Predictions About Sony’s Spider-Man Universe
Oct 30, 2017 6:56:06 GMT
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9 Big Predictions About Sony’s Spider-Man Universe
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Add bring back Emma Stone as SpiderGwen and the Prowler and this will be awesome!!!
9 Big Predictions About Sony’s Spider-Man Universe
Spider-Man is up to his neck in MCU affairs, but Sony is spinning a spider web of its own, with Venom, Black Cat and Silver Sable already caught up in it.
Although the studio has loaned Peter Parker back to parent company Marvel Studios, that hasn't put the kibosh on its ambitions to build a SpiderVerse populated by members of the superhero's supporting cast.
The shared cinematic universe will begin to take shape next October when Tom Hardy's Venom arrives in cinemas, and it will be followed in early 2019 by Silver & Black, a female-centric team-up starring Black Cat and Silver Sable.
For a film with a 50 Shades of Grey writer attached, Venon is shaping up rather well, or at least its cast is, with The Night Of star Riz Ahmed, Michelle Williams, Scott Haze and Reid Scott set to join Hardy in an impressive line-up.
Silver & Black, meanwhile, has bagged itself a talented director in the shape of Gina Prince-Bythewood, which makes her the latest female filmmaker to tackle the subject of superheroism, a trend which harks back to Patty Jenkins and Wonder Woman.
Nobody knows where Sony's SpiderVerse might be heading after Silver & Black, but since it has almost six decades of comic lore to draw from, the possibilities are many.
9. Venom Will Adapt The Lethal Protector Storyline
Rumours should always be taken with the proverbial grain of salt, but here's one you can file under 'entirely plausible'.
The folks at OmegaUnderground recently reported that Tom Hardy's Venom will be based on the Lethal Protector storyline, a six-issue Marvel Comics series which dates back to 1993, and this would be the ideal arc to draw from.
It was a landmark story for Venom as it saw him transition from all-out villain to anti-hero after striking up a deal with Spider-Man, and later teaming up with Marvel's web-slinger to take down a common threat.
Now, streamlining and surgery would be needed to remove any traces of Spidey from the source material, but a loose, Peter Parker-free adaptation should work just fine.
The whole point of the arc is Eddie Brock finding redemption, and he doesn't necessarily need Spider-Man for that. This would still make Venom an origin film of sorts, though not in the traditional sense.
This is the perfect basis for the film as most cinemagoers with little to no experience of the comics will only know the character from his poorly-received screen debut in Spider-Man 3. Revealing how he shifted from darkness to anti-heroism would effectively give them a crash course in all things symbiotic.
8. Michelle Williams Will Suit-Up As She-Venom
When word broke of Michelle Williams entering talks to join Venom, multiple reports suggested the role she was in line for was that of Ann Weying, Eddie Brock's ex-wife.
The evidence seems to add up since Williams's character has been described as a "district attorney" and the protagonist's love interest, which sounds like Weying.
In Marvel Comics lore, Venom's ex-wife is eventually bonded by the symbiote and takes on the identity of She-Venom, and this is something the movie will likely explore, though not necessarily right away.
Seeing Williams, an actress who is largely known for her intense dramatic roles, transform into a goo-covered anti-heroine is too big of an opportunity to spurn, but this is most likely to happen towards the end of the film as a potential sequel setup.
Weying's story is pitch dark in the comics. Horrified by the acts she committed in symbiote mode, she takes her own life. While a She-Venom outing is a possibility in the SpiderVerse's future, the suicide arc is too bleak for a superhero blockbuster.
7. Scott Haze Is Playing Carnage
Presumably Carnage is going to be the main villain in the Venom movie, multiple reports have said as much, but Sony is yet to announce who will be playing the psychopathic baddie.
When Riz Ahmed joined the project, rumours emerged that he'd secured this part, though more recent rumblings suggest he's playing a different bad guy, Chameleon.
This would make more sense because another Venom cast member is absolutely perfect for Carnage: Scott Haze, who is also on board in a mystery role.
Anyone who's seen his performance in the James Franco-directed Child of God will know Haze has the chops to play a deranged psychopath like Cletus Kasady. In that movie, he plays a guy called Lester Ballard, who gradually sinks into a mire of degradation and lunacy.
It's basically the same arc as Kasady's, give or take a tonne of red goo.
6. Kraven And Mysterio Will Cameo In Silver & Black
Nobody knows what direction the SpiderVerse will be heading in after Silver & Black, but reports of more villain-centric spinoffs emerged as recently as last summer.
In June, The Hollywood Reporter brought word that a movie starring Kraven the Hunter and Mysterio is on the cards, and Silver & Black could be its launchpad.
Little is known about Gina Prince-Bythewood's 2019 team-up movie, but the early reports suggest it's going to be packed to the rafters with villains.
Mendel Stromm, who goes on to become the cyborg villain Gaunt in the comics, is said to be the main antagonist, with Scorpion and Tarantula serving as his henchmen. The mob boss Tombstone is also believed to play a part in the story and the Chameleon is expected to make an appearance.
Given that so many Spidey rogues seem to be poised for their cinematic debut in Silver & Black, minor roles for Kraven and Mysterio cannot be ruled out since they're rumoured to be next in line for solo flights.
5. Those Sinister Six Plans Will Be Revived
Before Sony sent Peter Parker out on loan to Marvel Studios, it was building towards a Sinister Six movie in an on-the-nose way, throwing as many sequel setups and cameos as possible into The Amazing Spider-Man 2.
The supervillain team-up was officially announced with Drew Goddard attached to write and direct, and if all had gone to plan, it would have hit cinemas in November last year.
Amazing Spider-Man 2 bombing and Spidey heading to the MCU, however, were not part of the plan, and that deal between Sony and Marvel is what finally killed this version of the project.
But, with Spider-Man spinoffs back on the agenda at Sony, expect a different Sinister Six movie to rise from the ashes of the Goddard version.
There have been many incarnations of the Sinister Six in the comic books over the years, with the lineup chopping and changing all the time. Venom and Carnage have featured in variations of it, as have Kraven and Mysterio, and some of the rumoured supporting cast from Silver & Black.
If both Venom and Silver & Black prove a success, expect Sony to bring characters from these movies together for an Avengers-style team-up down the line, more than likely under the Sinister Six banner.
4. The SpiderVerse Movies Will Be About Redemption
There will be a common thread running through Sony's SpiderVerse movies, a strong theme all of these films and their characters share which makes them unique additions to the superhero genre.
That theme is redemption. From the sound of things, both Venom and Silver & Black will tell the story of how these characters transitioned from villains to gritty anti-heroes, but don't expect this to be an overnight change.
If the Kraven-Mysterio team-up gets off the ground, it's a safe bet that will feature a similar narrative, a story which will change the audience's perception of two characters who have traditionally been portrayed as bad guys.
The dark-to-light shift will only play out in part in the initial movies, with true absolution for their crimes likely to come in a team-up film. This was the original plan for Sinister Six, which was billed as a redemption story about a band of villains who pool their resources to take on a bigger threat.
A revived Sinister Six could still be exactly that. A chance at redemption is what these characters have in common, and they could work in conjunction towards that goal if thrown into the mix together.
3. Spider-Woman Will Be The SpiderVerse's Hero
As the SpiderVerse's web grows and expands beyond two movies, Spider-Man's absence will weigh heavier.
The number of classic Venom, Black Cat and Silver Sable stories Sony is able to adapt will be limited, since many of them feature Spidey, while others may suffer on screen because of his omission.
Although the studio won't like to admit it, these characters are at their best when they're interacting with Spider-Man, and since he's busy in the MCU right now, somebody will need to deputise for him.
That somebody should be Spider-Woman. Sony originally planned to develop a female-focus Spidey spinoff before Amazing Spider-Man 2 bombed, and this is an idea it should absolutely revive.
This is a big opportunity for the studio to build on the recent success of Wonder Woman by bringing a popular superheroine to its own cinematic universe.
The original plan was to have Spider-Man cameo in the Sinister Six movie and some of the other spinoffs, but why not have Spider-Woman do this instead, as well as heading up her own movie?
2. Peter Parker Will Never Appear In The SpiderVerse
When Sony announced plans to press ahead with Spider-Man spinoffs despite loaning the character back to Marvel, one of the questions on everyone's lips was whether the two universes will ever collide. It seems a shame to keep Spidey and Venom apart, plus all those villains in the SpiderVerse need to be kept in check by somebody.
This job is unlikely to be handed to Spider-Man anytime soon since he's been too much of a roaring success in the MCU and they have a five-movie plan for him, with three of those films still to come.
If the two upcoming Avengers sequels and Spider-Man: Homecoming's follow-up hit all the right notes critically and commercially - which they probably will - Marvel is more likely to renew its loan deal for Spidey than allow him to return to Sony to be recast yet again.
The SpiderVerse needs a white knight to balance out all of that anti-heroism, but with any luck, Sony will go for something more original and introduce Spider-Woman or Spider-Girl to its cinematic universe instead of another Peter Parker rehash.
1. Sony Will Announce A Spider-Man 2099 Movie
Sony may not have Peter Parker at its disposal, or Miles Morales for that matter, but there are other Spider-Men it could potentially ensnare for its cinematic universe.
Among them is Miguel O'Hara, better known as Spider-Man 2099, a futuristic incarnation of the wall-crawler who battles villains such as Morlun, the Venom-like Kron Stone and the evil Alchemax corporation.
A Spider-Man 2099 movie would be a superhero film unlike any other due to its heavy science fiction elements. Sure, Guardians of the Galaxy has cosmic themes, but this would take place in New York's distant future - it would essentially be Spider-Man meets Minority Report.
Miguel O'Hara could also give the SpiderVerse its Captain America-type hero, except in reverse. It would be a period film that gives fans a look at what will become of the cinematic universe in the long run, rather than delving into the past.
Moreover, the 2099 Spidey has also found himself in present day in a number of comic books, so a time-jumping movie that throws him into the mix with Venom, Black Cat and Silver Sable wouldn't be out of the question.
Even if Sony chose to keep Miguel separate from the other characters, the chance to make a Spider-Man 2099 movie is one the studio shouldn't turn down, because it could be radically different to anything in the MCU or the DC movie universe.
Although the studio has loaned Peter Parker back to parent company Marvel Studios, that hasn't put the kibosh on its ambitions to build a SpiderVerse populated by members of the superhero's supporting cast.
The shared cinematic universe will begin to take shape next October when Tom Hardy's Venom arrives in cinemas, and it will be followed in early 2019 by Silver & Black, a female-centric team-up starring Black Cat and Silver Sable.
For a film with a 50 Shades of Grey writer attached, Venon is shaping up rather well, or at least its cast is, with The Night Of star Riz Ahmed, Michelle Williams, Scott Haze and Reid Scott set to join Hardy in an impressive line-up.
Silver & Black, meanwhile, has bagged itself a talented director in the shape of Gina Prince-Bythewood, which makes her the latest female filmmaker to tackle the subject of superheroism, a trend which harks back to Patty Jenkins and Wonder Woman.
Nobody knows where Sony's SpiderVerse might be heading after Silver & Black, but since it has almost six decades of comic lore to draw from, the possibilities are many.
9. Venom Will Adapt The Lethal Protector Storyline
Rumours should always be taken with the proverbial grain of salt, but here's one you can file under 'entirely plausible'.
The folks at OmegaUnderground recently reported that Tom Hardy's Venom will be based on the Lethal Protector storyline, a six-issue Marvel Comics series which dates back to 1993, and this would be the ideal arc to draw from.
It was a landmark story for Venom as it saw him transition from all-out villain to anti-hero after striking up a deal with Spider-Man, and later teaming up with Marvel's web-slinger to take down a common threat.
Now, streamlining and surgery would be needed to remove any traces of Spidey from the source material, but a loose, Peter Parker-free adaptation should work just fine.
The whole point of the arc is Eddie Brock finding redemption, and he doesn't necessarily need Spider-Man for that. This would still make Venom an origin film of sorts, though not in the traditional sense.
This is the perfect basis for the film as most cinemagoers with little to no experience of the comics will only know the character from his poorly-received screen debut in Spider-Man 3. Revealing how he shifted from darkness to anti-heroism would effectively give them a crash course in all things symbiotic.
8. Michelle Williams Will Suit-Up As She-Venom
When word broke of Michelle Williams entering talks to join Venom, multiple reports suggested the role she was in line for was that of Ann Weying, Eddie Brock's ex-wife.
The evidence seems to add up since Williams's character has been described as a "district attorney" and the protagonist's love interest, which sounds like Weying.
In Marvel Comics lore, Venom's ex-wife is eventually bonded by the symbiote and takes on the identity of She-Venom, and this is something the movie will likely explore, though not necessarily right away.
Seeing Williams, an actress who is largely known for her intense dramatic roles, transform into a goo-covered anti-heroine is too big of an opportunity to spurn, but this is most likely to happen towards the end of the film as a potential sequel setup.
Weying's story is pitch dark in the comics. Horrified by the acts she committed in symbiote mode, she takes her own life. While a She-Venom outing is a possibility in the SpiderVerse's future, the suicide arc is too bleak for a superhero blockbuster.
7. Scott Haze Is Playing Carnage
Presumably Carnage is going to be the main villain in the Venom movie, multiple reports have said as much, but Sony is yet to announce who will be playing the psychopathic baddie.
When Riz Ahmed joined the project, rumours emerged that he'd secured this part, though more recent rumblings suggest he's playing a different bad guy, Chameleon.
This would make more sense because another Venom cast member is absolutely perfect for Carnage: Scott Haze, who is also on board in a mystery role.
Anyone who's seen his performance in the James Franco-directed Child of God will know Haze has the chops to play a deranged psychopath like Cletus Kasady. In that movie, he plays a guy called Lester Ballard, who gradually sinks into a mire of degradation and lunacy.
It's basically the same arc as Kasady's, give or take a tonne of red goo.
6. Kraven And Mysterio Will Cameo In Silver & Black
Nobody knows what direction the SpiderVerse will be heading in after Silver & Black, but reports of more villain-centric spinoffs emerged as recently as last summer.
In June, The Hollywood Reporter brought word that a movie starring Kraven the Hunter and Mysterio is on the cards, and Silver & Black could be its launchpad.
Little is known about Gina Prince-Bythewood's 2019 team-up movie, but the early reports suggest it's going to be packed to the rafters with villains.
Mendel Stromm, who goes on to become the cyborg villain Gaunt in the comics, is said to be the main antagonist, with Scorpion and Tarantula serving as his henchmen. The mob boss Tombstone is also believed to play a part in the story and the Chameleon is expected to make an appearance.
Given that so many Spidey rogues seem to be poised for their cinematic debut in Silver & Black, minor roles for Kraven and Mysterio cannot be ruled out since they're rumoured to be next in line for solo flights.
5. Those Sinister Six Plans Will Be Revived
Before Sony sent Peter Parker out on loan to Marvel Studios, it was building towards a Sinister Six movie in an on-the-nose way, throwing as many sequel setups and cameos as possible into The Amazing Spider-Man 2.
The supervillain team-up was officially announced with Drew Goddard attached to write and direct, and if all had gone to plan, it would have hit cinemas in November last year.
Amazing Spider-Man 2 bombing and Spidey heading to the MCU, however, were not part of the plan, and that deal between Sony and Marvel is what finally killed this version of the project.
But, with Spider-Man spinoffs back on the agenda at Sony, expect a different Sinister Six movie to rise from the ashes of the Goddard version.
There have been many incarnations of the Sinister Six in the comic books over the years, with the lineup chopping and changing all the time. Venom and Carnage have featured in variations of it, as have Kraven and Mysterio, and some of the rumoured supporting cast from Silver & Black.
If both Venom and Silver & Black prove a success, expect Sony to bring characters from these movies together for an Avengers-style team-up down the line, more than likely under the Sinister Six banner.
4. The SpiderVerse Movies Will Be About Redemption
There will be a common thread running through Sony's SpiderVerse movies, a strong theme all of these films and their characters share which makes them unique additions to the superhero genre.
That theme is redemption. From the sound of things, both Venom and Silver & Black will tell the story of how these characters transitioned from villains to gritty anti-heroes, but don't expect this to be an overnight change.
If the Kraven-Mysterio team-up gets off the ground, it's a safe bet that will feature a similar narrative, a story which will change the audience's perception of two characters who have traditionally been portrayed as bad guys.
The dark-to-light shift will only play out in part in the initial movies, with true absolution for their crimes likely to come in a team-up film. This was the original plan for Sinister Six, which was billed as a redemption story about a band of villains who pool their resources to take on a bigger threat.
A revived Sinister Six could still be exactly that. A chance at redemption is what these characters have in common, and they could work in conjunction towards that goal if thrown into the mix together.
3. Spider-Woman Will Be The SpiderVerse's Hero
As the SpiderVerse's web grows and expands beyond two movies, Spider-Man's absence will weigh heavier.
The number of classic Venom, Black Cat and Silver Sable stories Sony is able to adapt will be limited, since many of them feature Spidey, while others may suffer on screen because of his omission.
Although the studio won't like to admit it, these characters are at their best when they're interacting with Spider-Man, and since he's busy in the MCU right now, somebody will need to deputise for him.
That somebody should be Spider-Woman. Sony originally planned to develop a female-focus Spidey spinoff before Amazing Spider-Man 2 bombed, and this is an idea it should absolutely revive.
This is a big opportunity for the studio to build on the recent success of Wonder Woman by bringing a popular superheroine to its own cinematic universe.
The original plan was to have Spider-Man cameo in the Sinister Six movie and some of the other spinoffs, but why not have Spider-Woman do this instead, as well as heading up her own movie?
2. Peter Parker Will Never Appear In The SpiderVerse
When Sony announced plans to press ahead with Spider-Man spinoffs despite loaning the character back to Marvel, one of the questions on everyone's lips was whether the two universes will ever collide. It seems a shame to keep Spidey and Venom apart, plus all those villains in the SpiderVerse need to be kept in check by somebody.
This job is unlikely to be handed to Spider-Man anytime soon since he's been too much of a roaring success in the MCU and they have a five-movie plan for him, with three of those films still to come.
If the two upcoming Avengers sequels and Spider-Man: Homecoming's follow-up hit all the right notes critically and commercially - which they probably will - Marvel is more likely to renew its loan deal for Spidey than allow him to return to Sony to be recast yet again.
The SpiderVerse needs a white knight to balance out all of that anti-heroism, but with any luck, Sony will go for something more original and introduce Spider-Woman or Spider-Girl to its cinematic universe instead of another Peter Parker rehash.
1. Sony Will Announce A Spider-Man 2099 Movie
Sony may not have Peter Parker at its disposal, or Miles Morales for that matter, but there are other Spider-Men it could potentially ensnare for its cinematic universe.
Among them is Miguel O'Hara, better known as Spider-Man 2099, a futuristic incarnation of the wall-crawler who battles villains such as Morlun, the Venom-like Kron Stone and the evil Alchemax corporation.
A Spider-Man 2099 movie would be a superhero film unlike any other due to its heavy science fiction elements. Sure, Guardians of the Galaxy has cosmic themes, but this would take place in New York's distant future - it would essentially be Spider-Man meets Minority Report.
Miguel O'Hara could also give the SpiderVerse its Captain America-type hero, except in reverse. It would be a period film that gives fans a look at what will become of the cinematic universe in the long run, rather than delving into the past.
Moreover, the 2099 Spidey has also found himself in present day in a number of comic books, so a time-jumping movie that throws him into the mix with Venom, Black Cat and Silver Sable wouldn't be out of the question.
Even if Sony chose to keep Miguel separate from the other characters, the chance to make a Spider-Man 2099 movie is one the studio shouldn't turn down, because it could be radically different to anything in the MCU or the DC movie universe.
whatculture.com/film/9-big-predictions-about-sony-s-spider-man-universe?page=10
Add bring back Emma Stone as SpiderGwen and the Prowler and this will be awesome!!!