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Post by Utpe on Nov 24, 2017 22:15:35 GMT
I don't mean to sound mean, and I want to believe everyone but how long can they keep saying this happened. Some of these women are saying it was 30 years ago, is there a limit to this. Plus, I keep going I just want to know there was proof. I take people for their word, but sometimes I wonder with all of this. Some of these cases are coming out from the 70's and the 80's, and those were some wild times and parties. In Spacey's story I keep going who the h*ll let a 14yro go out to a party. Seriously, a 14 yro kid with no parents. Then there is now women going after Gene Simmons. Anyone who's a Kiss fan, knows his history and the story about the box with the photos. I mean the man lived the rock n roll life. I guess no one is safe. There is going to be more stories coming out, more lives ruined, and some careers. I mean how much is damage enough? In one way I want to see photo's of some of these women from when this stuff happened? Were they partiers, or groupies? Just a quick question is all. Well said. Unfortunately, I think this all stemmed from when Bill Cosby was being accused left and right a few years ago. Alleged victims saw how easy it was to go after these celebrities for a quick paycheck, so they just started dropping names with no real proof. I feel bad for the people that were actually preyed upon. It's a current trend in Hollywood. The only real way it's going to stop is if one accuser is caught lying under oath and has their ass handed to them with a severe punishment. Then, I can bet you dollars to donuts people will go back into hiding.
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Post by blockbusted on Nov 24, 2017 22:22:34 GMT
I don't mean to sound mean, and I want to believe everyone but how long can they keep saying this happened. Some of these women are saying it was 30 years ago, is there a limit to this. Plus, I keep going I just want to know there was proof. I take people for their word, but sometimes I wonder with all of this. Some of these cases are coming out from the 70's and the 80's, and those were some wild times and parties. In Spacey's story I keep going who the h*ll let a 14yro go out to a party. Seriously, a 14 yro kid with no parents. Then there is now women going after Gene Simmons. Anyone who's a Kiss fan, knows his history and the story about the box with the photos. I mean the man lived the rock n roll life. I guess no one is safe. There is going to be more stories coming out, more lives ruined, and some careers. I mean how much is damage enough? In one way I want to see photo's of some of these women from when this stuff happened? Were they partiers, or groupies? Just a quick question is all. Well said. Unfortunately, I think this all stemmed from when Bill Cosby was being accused left and right a few years ago. Alleged victims saw how easy it was to go after these celebrities for a quick paycheck, so they just started dropping names with no real proof. I feel bad for the people that were actually preyed upon. It's a current trend in Hollywood. The only real way it's going to stop is if one accuser is caught lying under oath and has their ass handed to them with a severe punishment. Then, I can bet you dollars to donuts people will go back into hiding. Haven't you read that Crazy Days and Nights article that I posted? Given how accurate that site is (according to 3 to 5 different Reddit posters), wouldn't it be safe to assume that every single rumors, blind gossips/items, and conspiracy theories about famous men are 100% true?
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Post by deembastille on Nov 24, 2017 22:25:24 GMT
I don't mean to sound mean, and I want to believe everyone but how long can they keep saying this happened. Some of these women are saying it was 30 years ago, is there a limit to this. Plus, I keep going I just want to know there was proof. I take people for their word, but sometimes I wonder with all of this. Some of these cases are coming out from the 70's and the 80's, and those were some wild times and parties. In Spacey's story I keep going who the h*ll let a 14yro go out to a party. Seriously, a 14 yro kid with no parents. Then there is now women going after Gene Simmons. Anyone who's a Kiss fan, knows his history and the story about the box with the photos. I mean the man lived the rock n roll life. I guess no one is safe. There is going to be more stories coming out, more lives ruined, and some careers. I mean how much is damage enough? In one way I want to see photo's of some of these women from when this stuff happened? Were they partiers, or groupies? Just a quick question is all. Well said. Unfortunately, I think this all stemmed from when Bill Cosby was being accused left and right a few years ago. Alleged victims saw how easy it was to go after these celebrities for a quick paycheck, so they just started dropping names with no real proof. I feel bad for the people that were actually preyed upon. It's a current trend in Hollywood. The only real way it's going to stop is if one accuser is caught lying under oath and has their ass handed to them with a severe punishment. Then, I can bet you dollars to donuts people will go back into hiding. this is all I have been fucking saying and people are burning my ass left and right! from the questioning of the motives of parents to the statute of limitations. I want to see proof, too. and these people have to understand that with each passing day their memories of what happened become more and more faded. I have seriously had enough of all these people who blindly go on the bandwagon of flaming someone accused. that is all that has happened, the accusation. the accusation alone is enough to end someone's life as they know it [or worse]. how would all of these women like it to be accused of something disastrous that they 'didn't' do? and have the media and everyone else go on the bandwagon without proof?
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Post by deembastille on Nov 24, 2017 22:29:32 GMT
Well said. Unfortunately, I think this all stemmed from when Bill Cosby was being accused left and right a few years ago. Alleged victims saw how easy it was to go after these celebrities for a quick paycheck, so they just started dropping names with no real proof. I feel bad for the people that were actually preyed upon. It's a current trend in Hollywood. The only real way it's going to stop is if one accuser is caught lying under oath and has their ass handed to them with a severe punishment. Then, I can bet you dollars to donuts people will go back into hiding. Haven't you read that Crazy Days and Nights article that I posted? Given how accurate that site is (according to 3 to 5 different Reddit posters), wouldn't it be safe to assume that every single rumors, blind gossips/items, and conspiracy theories about famous men are 100% true? posters... as in lay people. who could just corroborate their stories. without evidence, that is all they are: stories. assume... are you serious? haven't you ever heard that saying about assuming? rumor... how'd you get that hole in your foot? put down the gun. blind gossip... oh, great. now you really can't walk. I told you to put down the gun! now your other foot is shot! conspiracy theories... so aliens did it?
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Post by High Plains Drifter on Nov 25, 2017 2:44:33 GMT
I don't mean to sound mean, and I want to believe everyone but how long can they keep saying this happened. Some of these women are saying it was 30 years ago, is there a limit to this. Plus, I keep going I just want to know there was proof. I take people for their word, but sometimes I wonder with all of this. Some of these cases are coming out from the 70's and the 80's, and those were some wild times and parties. In Spacey's story I keep going who the h*ll let a 14yro go out to a party. Seriously, a 14 yro kid with no parents. Then there is now women going after Gene Simmons. Anyone who's a Kiss fan, knows his history and the story about the box with the photos. I mean the man lived the rock n roll life. I guess no one is safe. There is going to be more stories coming out, more lives ruined, and some careers. I mean how much is damage enough? In one way I want to see photo's of some of these women from when this stuff happened? Were they partiers, or groupies? Just a quick question is all. Well said. Unfortunately, I think this all stemmed from when Bill Cosby was being accused left and right a few years ago. Alleged victims saw how easy it was to go after these celebrities for a quick paycheck, so they just started dropping names with no real proof. I feel bad for the people that were actually preyed upon. It's a current trend in Hollywood. The only real way it's going to stop is if one accuser is caught lying under oath and has their ass handed to them with a severe punishment. Then, I can bet you dollars to donuts people will go back into hiding. In Cosby's case the one question I had was if the one woman had a pay out and was not suppose to speak. How is it she can go after him, and yet he can't sue her for breach of contract?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 27, 2017 15:31:07 GMT
Have you looked into them now? I'm not sure if I consider the sites you listed as official enough for me to take as anything more than rumor at this point in time. But in todays climate I think if something's there it will come out.
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Post by deembastille on Nov 27, 2017 17:47:56 GMT
Block busted is just that. Busted. He has no idea what he is talking about and he seems to be really naive.
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Post by blockbusted on Nov 27, 2017 19:55:01 GMT
Have you looked into them now? I'm not sure if I consider the sites you listed as official enough for me to take as anything more than rumor at this point in time. But in todays climate I think if something's there it will come out. Do you think there might be a slight possibility that some of these accusations (official or not) might’ve been blown out of proportion or completely fabricated?
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Post by deembastille on Nov 27, 2017 19:58:59 GMT
I'm not sure if I consider the sites you listed as official enough for me to take as anything more than rumor at this point in time. But in todays climate I think if something's there it will come out. Do you think there might be a slight possibility that some of these accusations (official or not) might’ve been blown out of proportion or completely fabricated? Do you? That last thing you wrote, you went BLINDLY by what others have said. Couldn't they be lying sacks of shot, too?
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Post by Eλευθερί on Nov 27, 2017 20:05:02 GMT
I don't mean to sound mean, and I want to believe everyone but how long can they keep saying this happened. Some of these women are saying it was 30 years ago, is there a limit to this. Plus, I keep going I just want to know there was proof. I take people for their word, but sometimes I wonder with all of this. Some of these cases are coming out from the 70's and the 80's, and those were some wild times and parties. In Spacey's story I keep going who the h*ll let a 14yro go out to a party. Seriously, a 14 yro kid with no parents. Then there is now women going after Gene Simmons. Anyone who's a Kiss fan, knows his history and the story about the box with the photos. I mean the man lived the rock n roll life. I guess no one is safe. There is going to be more stories coming out, more lives ruined, and some careers. I mean how much is damage enough? In one way I want to see photo's of some of these women from when this stuff happened? Were they partiers, or groupies? Just a quick question is all. It depends on what the alleged misdeed was. A buttocks grope 30 or 40 years ago? No, a career absolutely shouldn't be ruined over a single allegation about something like that. But a murder or rape? In many jurisdictions, there is no statute of limitations barring investigation and possible prosecution for violent crimes like these. It's certainly much harder for crimes to be successfully prosecuted after such a long time, because it's often so much harder to assemble sufficient evidence. But I don't think there should be a blanket ban against any prosecution solely based on a long time having passed.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 27, 2017 21:00:35 GMT
I'm not sure if I consider the sites you listed as official enough for me to take as anything more than rumor at this point in time. But in todays climate I think if something's there it will come out. Do you think there might be a slight possibility that some of these accusations (official or not) might’ve been blown out of proportion or completely fabricated? I'll say this: Whenever a celebrity is known for being around children all the time, or creating works that heavily involve children, that always raises my eyebrow a little. Its one thing to love your children or kids in general, but I feel its another thing if you spend your whole life and career playing with kids and acting like a kid and everything you do involves kids. After a while I gets the creeps about it.
Michael Jackson for example never grew out of that, and after a while it was creepy. Steven Spielberg has definitely grown out of that. Or at least it seems so. We'll see if somewhat more "official' accusations come out. I certainly hope not. But IF it does turn out that way, then he's gotta go too.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 27, 2017 21:19:08 GMT
Do you think there might be a slight possibility that some of these accusations (official or not) might’ve been blown out of proportion or completely fabricated? I'll say this: Whenever a celebrity is known for being around children all the time, or creating works that heavily involve children, that always raises my eyebrow a little. Its one thing to love your children or kids in general, but I feel its another thing if you spend your whole life and career playing with kids and acting like a kid and everything you do involves kids. After a while I gets the creeps about it.
Michael Jackson for example never grew out of that, and after a while it was creepy. Steven Spielberg has definitely grown out of that. Or at least it seems so. We'll see if somewhat more "official' accusations come out. I certainly hope not. But IF it does turn out that way, then he's gotta go too.
That seems a bit broad. Do kindergarten teaches creep you out?
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Post by deembastille on Nov 27, 2017 22:06:03 GMT
I'll say this: Whenever a celebrity is known for being around children all the time, or creating works that heavily involve children, that always raises my eyebrow a little. Its one thing to love your children or kids in general, but I feel its another thing if you spend your whole life and career playing with kids and acting like a kid and everything you do involves kids. After a while I gets the creeps about it.
Michael Jackson for example never grew out of that, and after a while it was creepy. Steven Spielberg has definitely grown out of that. Or at least it seems so. We'll see if somewhat more "official' accusations come out. I certainly hope not. But IF it does turn out that way, then he's gotta go too.
That seems a bit broad. Do kindergarten teaches creep you out? Taylor... Kindergarten teachers generally aren't celebrities. And they have to drop one career to do the other. Despite what Indiana Jones did at that University, he made time to go grave exploring. Kindergarten teachers have no such allegiance.
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Post by blockbusted on Nov 27, 2017 22:44:09 GMT
Well... now we also have this: www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/todays-blind-items-long-time-coming.html...and people seem to believe this clip is the conclusive proof due to Seth MacFarlane's history of making sex jokes about Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, Brett Ratner, and Bryan Singer: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7elfvm/american_dad_knows_about_steven_spielberg/ I think we might be seeing the complete collapse of Hollywood, followed by Chinese film industry and Hentai industry to take over... Besides, aren't these enough proof that we should believe every single rumors, blind gossips/items, and conspiracy theories that go around famous men 100% until they're proven to be false? You know, just to be safe at the very least?
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Post by blockbusted on Nov 28, 2017 0:38:50 GMT
And we now have this too:
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/7f52yl/steven_spielberg_george_lucas_and_martin_scorsese/dq9y828/
Shouldn't these evidence be conclusive enough already?
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Post by deembastille on Nov 28, 2017 1:30:21 GMT
And we now have this too: https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/7f52yl/steven_spielberg_george_lucas_and_martin_scorsese/dq9y828/ Shouldn't these evidence be conclusive enough already? evidence is something tangible! like video footage, audio or photographic proof. people can be in cahoots with each other and have the same lying assed story.
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Post by blockbusted on Nov 28, 2017 1:34:44 GMT
And we now have this too: https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/7f52yl/steven_spielberg_george_lucas_and_martin_scorsese/dq9y828/ Shouldn't these evidence be conclusive enough already? evidence is something tangible! like video footage, audio or photographic proof. people can be in cahoots with each other and have the same lying assed story. Well, have you checked that new story from Crazy Days and Nights? I mean, why would that website post more than 1 different story that seem to be related to Spielberg if there isn’t anything going on? Also, why would these random posters on Reddit would even be bothered to do that?
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Post by deembastille on Nov 28, 2017 3:30:40 GMT
STORIES!!!!!!! DO THEY POST PICTURES? VIDEOS? random posters everywhere have a lot of time on their hands, disposable incomes and a disconnect between their brains and their consciences. that is, if they have consciences anyway. there are a lot of psycho people out there who like to fuck with people's lives.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 28, 2017 18:56:32 GMT
I'll say this: Whenever a celebrity is known for being around children all the time, or creating works that heavily involve children, that always raises my eyebrow a little. Its one thing to love your children or kids in general, but I feel its another thing if you spend your whole life and career playing with kids and acting like a kid and everything you do involves kids. After a while I gets the creeps about it.
Michael Jackson for example never grew out of that, and after a while it was creepy. Steven Spielberg has definitely grown out of that. Or at least it seems so. We'll see if somewhat more "official' accusations come out. I certainly hope not. But IF it does turn out that way, then he's gotta go too.
That seems a bit broad. Do kindergarten teaches creep you out? I did say celebrity. Mr. Rogers, Captain Kangaroo, whoever the heck plays Barney... all those people gave me a hint of the creeps.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 28, 2017 19:00:23 GMT
That seems a bit broad. Do kindergarten teaches creep you out? I did say celebrity. Mr. Rogers, Captain Kangaroo, whoever the heck plays Barney... all those people gave me a hint of the creeps.
So the cast of Sesame Street must give you a serious case of the heebie jeebies then.
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