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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 1:33:57 GMT
Honestly, I don't. He's technically the main character, but it's just as much Tony's movie as it is Cap's. Overall, it feels more like Avengers 2.5.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 7, 2017 1:37:57 GMT
It's definitely a Cap movie. The main story is about Cap rescuing Bucky and the other Avenger's inclusion is in obstruction of that goal.
But it wouldn't really matter if they had called it Avengers either, so I think it's one of those debates that doesn't matter. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 7, 2017 1:39:35 GMT
Honestly, I don't. He's technically the main character, but it's just as much Tony's movie as it is Cap's. Overall, it feels more like Avengers 2.5. Absolutely. Hee hee hee... |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 7, 2017 1:43:45 GMT
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Post by scabab on Nov 7, 2017 1:45:54 GMT
There's been Avengers storylines in the comics where it's centered on a particular hero more than others.
I think this definitely could have just been called Avengers: Infinity War. It would just center more on Captain America and Iron Man than the previous two movies where they already had the most screentime anyway.
Infact a simply name change and that movie could have made a free extra couple hundred million at the box office.
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Post by merh on Nov 7, 2017 2:32:20 GMT
It has Cap & Bucky.
Why wouldn't I?
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Post by politicidal on Nov 7, 2017 2:54:45 GMT
It's like Thor: Ragnarok where it's Thor's show but Hulk is a major player too.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 7, 2017 3:03:51 GMT
It's like Thor: Ragnarok where it's Thor's show but Hulk is a major player too. Dude, that movie should clearly be called The Revengers. I mean come onnnnnnnnnnnnnn, lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 3:36:38 GMT
It's like Thor: Ragnarok where it's Thor's show but Hulk is a major player too. Not the same. Tony's role in CW was way bigger than Hulk's was in Ragnarok. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 7, 2017 3:39:30 GMT
Honestly, I don't. He's technically the main character, but it's just as much Tony's movie as it is Cap's. Overall, it feels more like Avengers 2.5. Nope, Civil War was more an Avengers movie than a Captain America movie. That's why they filled it with a bunch of useless cameos. For example, the cameos by Spider-Boy, Ant-Man, and Hawkeye added nothing to the movie. They could've taken those parts out and it wouldn't have changed the overall plot of the movie at all. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 7, 2017 4:17:49 GMT
Nope, Civil War was more an Avengers movie than a Captain America movie. Nope, it just wasn't afraid to use the fact it's set in a Shared Universe. The story was still about Cap first and foremost. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 4:33:18 GMT
Yep but i dont really consider it a civil war movie. It should have had the superhuman registration act. That would have made it way more personal for everyone involved. As lives are on the line, including loved ones.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 7, 2017 13:31:02 GMT
Yep but i dont really consider it a civil war movie. It should have had the superhuman registration act. That would have made it way more personal for everyone involved. As lives are on the line, including loved ones. But all the superhumans in the world were more or less known to the Government anyways, they had no secret IDs. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 7, 2017 15:18:49 GMT
Yep but i dont really consider it a civil war movie. It should have had the superhuman registration act. That would have made it way more personal for everyone involved. As lives are on the line, including loved ones. That would only be the case if everyone had a secret identity. Or was even superhuman. Most of them are tech enhanced and not really superhuman. If they made it closer to the comics then the movie would be bigger than Infinity War. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 7, 2017 15:19:46 GMT
Yep but i dont really consider it a civil war movie. It should have had the superhuman registration act. That would have made it way more personal for everyone involved. As lives are on the line, including loved ones. But all the superhumans in the world were more or less known to the Government anyways, they had no secret IDs. Grr, I leapt before I looked.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 16:13:02 GMT
No . I agree it felt much more like Avengers 2.5 with Iron Man hogging tons of the screen time. Wasn't a "bad " film by any means and was entertaining in some parts but I wanted a true Cap film after the Winter Soldier .
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 7, 2017 17:32:35 GMT
NO:
- Cap becomes an quasi-ensemble character in his own, last, solo film (even on the poster). Found it disrespectful and artistically questionable,
- They did not close the Hail Hydra Nazi arc, I was baffled about that. It's like watching Empire strikes Back and in the next episode the Empire is totally missing. I mean, Hydra were MCU-lame villains anyway. But what a baffling conclusion.
- I disliked that they shoehorned in two (!) origins stories for random new characters (Spiderman/Panther), and Tony got his infamous who-killed-my-mommy backstory.
Why was that even called Cap3?
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 7, 2017 20:59:01 GMT
Cap becomes an quasi-ensemble character in his own, last, solo film (even on the poster). Found it disrespectful and artistically questionable, Shared Universes work on NOT ignoring all the other characters and acting like you exist in a vacuum. HYDRA is a MCU wide problem, not a Cap one. His stories are not in a vacuum. Because Cap does not exist in a vacuum independent of all other Marvel characters. Seriously man, stop acting like it's the year 2000. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 7, 2017 21:06:33 GMT
Cap becomes an quasi-ensemble character in his own, last, solo film (even on the poster). Found it disrespectful and artistically questionable, Shared Universes work on NOT ignoring all the other characters and acting like you exist in a vacuum. HYDRA is a MCU wide problem, not a Cap one. His stories are not in a vacuum. . so according to your new theory the old Shared Universe concept remedies any bad storytelling, sidelining and inconsistencies? How does the brutal sidelining of the titular character agree with your theory that it's lazy writing when the hero is over shadowed by the villain. So it's fine if he is by all other heroes?  I imagine they told Chris Evans something similar when they gave him the script for Cap3. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 7, 2017 21:08:35 GMT
so according to your new theory the old Shared Universe concept remedies any bad storytelling, sidelining and inconsistencies? It means you have to stop expecting every last little thing to be wrapped up in a neat little package because some stuff goes beyond one character. That isn't what happened in Civil War, so I don't know what you mean. No, they probably just told him that things weren't going to wrapped up in a neat little package. |
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