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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 19, 2017 22:15:36 GMT
I agree with most posters here: Dumb, but fun - 6.5/10. We live in the time of the juvenile blockbuster. Accordingly, this is not the Justice League movie we need, but the movie we deserve. They got the core element right: character energy (great!). But not so much the storytelling and execution. This film will look a lot better on the small screen, especially the CGI and some super stiff upper lips. If they do a second part: You got a solid character foundation, now get the story and plot right please. hey, do you think the 1.85 aspect ratio hurt the visual aesthetic? On the big screen maybe/likely, as it looks less rectangular than 2.39:1 and more TV-like (despite the former having de facto IMAX aspect ratio). On the small screen: no (no bars). But in the end, big screens are more revealing and unforgiving of bad CGI details.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 19, 2017 23:43:33 GMT
Just got back from the theaters. Saw the film in IMAX, which is the second film I saw in IMAX (first being The Dark Knight), I guess they raised the price? Cause it cost me $20. Definitely not a thing I'd do often. But hey it's the first live action Justice League movie. Might as well make it a special event.
Anyhow, I liked it a lot! It was just how I predicted, a fun popcorn film. Steppenwolf definitely was the weak link, I did like his entrance and fight with the Amazon warriors.
Overall I'd give it a 7/10. Definitely going to see it again! But definitely not paying $20, again!
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Post by merh on Nov 19, 2017 23:43:55 GMT
I just saw it today and I really liked it, I get some people saying about things being a bit choppy, but then what do you expect when a studio mandate comes around after filming to cut the film to under 2 hours? You mean like Whedon having to chop Avengers down to fit Marvel's time? He apparently had to cut a lot of stuff he loved involving Cap, but it made a tight movie. Say what you will, but to me Avengers has no fat. There is no scene inserted unnecessarily. He apparently wanted to use Cap as the audience eye into the team JL had a lot to cut. We saw WW play hero. We didn't need the bank scene. We didn't need Bruce looking down on the bar. Or the game inside. He saw the video. He knew he was talking to Aquaman. My issue was drag. Set up took too long. I was cool with the Batman standout because it led to a parademon. We really didn't need the jail stuff. Sorry. My baby said the first half (pre-supes) was a 2. I pointed out Flash was good. That made it a 4. I say it was a 5 for Flash & Aquaman. Outside of the Supes bits the end was a 6. Supes was 8-9 so 6? Where is pizza party fun guy Cyborg? We dial back Bruce's doom & gloom & give it to Victor? The superpal fight? Similar to Vision's birth in Ultron, no? Victor's dad studying the box as a power source? Howard Stark/cosmic cube? I'm not a Flash comic fan, but I know the tv series. This Barry seems somewhat Quicksilver who has been portrayed as disconnected from humans because they are so slow. His mind is going 80 mph while everyone around him is going 25. Steppenwolf is Loki only Loki is more charismatic. My issue is Steppenwolf is as overpowered as Enchantress was. How the HELL did tgey defeat him in time past when he tore thru earth's defenders like a hit knife thru butter I didn't think the Atlanteans & Amazon's were so weak. That last scene-THAT is the villain we needed. That is the Luthor we should have had in BvS.
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Post by northernlad on Nov 20, 2017 0:42:39 GMT
My vote: "It was alright."
But we deserved better!
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Post by merh on Nov 20, 2017 1:29:19 GMT
Watching WB DC movies makes me think of all the stories of Errol Flynn fighting the original Warner Brothers when he worked for them in the 30s. The studio seems locked into old school studio think. They know better than anyone how to make movies.
So what's wrong?
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Post by NewtJorden on Nov 20, 2017 15:16:53 GMT
Its a good film. But the way WB handled that movie is absolutely horrible. The best thing they could have done would have been to postponed the film to somewhere in 2018. That way, they would have give a chance to Zack Snyder to recover from his daughter death and come back to finish the movie the way he wanted to do it. But no, to WB, only money counts.
Also, the 2 hours limits is really weird for a movie that is supposed to introduce Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman, Steppenwoolf, bring back Superman and have a movie that make sense.
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Post by Peter B. Parker on Nov 20, 2017 15:20:11 GMT
Between good film and amazing. I had a fun two hours watching this film. I'd definitely watch it again, to relive the fun. Worth the watch if you haven't seen already
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 20, 2017 16:05:26 GMT
I posted a fairly extensive write up of my thoughts elsewhere on the board, but again I'll say it was a lot of fun. It had its problems but it did the characters justice and was fun to watch, which are the two biggest reasons people watch a film like this. I don't understand the negativity surrounding the finished product and it'll be a shame if JL's poor showing at the BO cuts this franchise off at the knees.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 20, 2017 17:37:24 GMT
The superpal fight? Similar to Vision's birth in Ultron, no? So what was Tony Stark's contingency plan? Oh yeah, unlike Batman, Tony Stark had no contingency plan.
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Post by Larcen26 on Nov 20, 2017 18:47:59 GMT
Its a good film. But the way WB handled that movie is absolutely horrible. The best thing they could have done would have been to postponed the film to somewhere in 2018. That way, they would have give a chance to Zack Snyder to recover from his daughter death and come back to finish the movie the way he wanted to do it. But no, to WB, only money counts. Also, the 2 hours limits is really weird for a movie that is supposed to introduce Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman, Steppenwoolf, bring back Superman and have a movie that make sense. But that meant that Zack Snyder would have been MORE involved...which is the last thing the movie needed. The things that are being praised in even the worst reviews, are the character moments, which were clearly dominated by Joss Whedon's work. Couldn't agree more about the running time, the stakes with resurrecting Superman and the final conflict could have (and should have) been given more room to breathe with a longer running time.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 20, 2017 19:58:48 GMT
Do we really know for a fact which scenes were directed by Snyder and which were directed by Whedon?
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Post by Larcen26 on Nov 20, 2017 20:17:39 GMT
Do we really know for a fact which scenes were directed by Snyder and which were directed by Whedon? Not as of yet... Clearly the first Barry/Bruce scene was Snyder because it came out months ago...some are saying Joss added the Brunch bit, but that seems a little too "on the nose" with the Shwarma bit, so I think people are just assuming. I could blatantly see the mustache removal in just about every Superman scene, so those were all Joss. I would bet a million dollars that the "He's more human than I am" scene was Joss. The Aquaman confession scene was very Joss...and the "Do you really talk to fish?" seemed like him too...which might have been a single part of the larger scene, or that entire section may have been a re-shoot working on clarifying the plot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 20:23:04 GMT
My vote: "It was alright."
But we deserved better! And much sooner. JL should have been a thing at least three years before The Avengers film.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 20, 2017 21:40:07 GMT
My vote: "It was alright."
But we deserved better! And much sooner. JL should have been a thing at least three years before The Avengers film. It's weird that we got a Avengers film before a Justice League. In retrospect I do wish that DC didn't focus so much on Batman and Superman over these past decades. Imagine if Christopher Reeves, Michael Keaton and Linda Carter got to do a film together!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 21:50:20 GMT
And much sooner. JL should have been a thing at least three years before The Avengers film. It's weird that we got a Avengers film before a Justice League. In retrospect I do wish that DC didn't focus so much on Batman and Superman over these past decades. Imagine if Christopher Reeves, Michael Keaton and Linda Carter got to do a film together! Okay, I can imagine Reeve's Superman and Carter's WW existing in the same universe, but them with Burton's Batman?
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 20, 2017 21:53:20 GMT
And much sooner. JL should have been a thing at least three years before The Avengers film. It's weird that we got a Avengers film before a Justice League. In retrospect I do wish that DC didn't focus so much on Batman and Superman over these past decades. Imagine if Christopher Reeves, Michael Keaton and Linda Carter got to do a film together! Christopher Reeves and Lynda Carter could have done a movie together (and it would have been awesome) but Michael Keaton didn't start playing Batman until 1989 so I don't think that was close enough to the others for a team up (even though Superman 4 was released in 1987).
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 20, 2017 22:17:45 GMT
It's weird that we got a Avengers film before a Justice League. In retrospect I do wish that DC didn't focus so much on Batman and Superman over these past decades. Imagine if Christopher Reeves, Michael Keaton and Linda Carter got to do a film together! Okay, I can imagine Reeve's Superman and Carter's WW existing in the same universe, but them with Burton's Batman? What's wrong with that?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 22:20:38 GMT
Okay, I can imagine Reeve's Superman and Carter's WW existing in the same universe, but them with Burton's Batman? What's wrong with that? Technically nothing, but that'd be one heck of a tonal boundary to overcome. Half the film would be Superman and Wonder Woman stopping Batman from killing people.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 20, 2017 22:22:32 GMT
The superpal fight? Similar to Vision's birth in Ultron, no? So what was Tony Stark's contingency plan? Oh yeah, unlike Batman, Tony Stark had no contingency plan. Batman didn't have contingency plans either, he had no plan if Lois failed and Superman just killed her too.
At least with Tony, the Vision thing was pure desperation and the story treated it as such.
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Post by merh on Nov 21, 2017 2:07:32 GMT
The superpal fight? Similar to Vision's birth in Ultron, no? So what was Tony Stark's contingency plan? Oh yeah, unlike Batman, Tony Stark had no contingency plan. Bats buys his tech. Stark makes his own. Stark has a better understanding of tech than Bats has of Kryptonian psychology
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