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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 20, 2017 13:01:03 GMT
Wonder Woman proved that if you are a superpowered goddess, you can do anything.
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Nov 20, 2017 13:01:16 GMT
Asking people on here is a quick way to start a fight. Because one side will hate it because it got so much praise, and the other will belittle the other side in a number of other ways.
And these are suppose to be grown ups talking about an opinion.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 20, 2017 13:05:01 GMT
Wonder Woman proved that if you are a superpowered goddess, you can do anything. Until Justice League...
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Post by dazz on Nov 20, 2017 17:20:49 GMT
Asking people on here is a quick way to start a fight. Because one side will hate it because it got so much praise, and the other will belittle the other side in a number of other ways. And these are suppose to be grown ups talking about an opinion. Sound like very typical human behaviour to me.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 20, 2017 18:11:47 GMT
MCU is campaigning for a Best Picture Oscar for GotG2 and Raganarok, but I don't see them on the list. I can understand GotG2 not being listed because the Academy won't want to nominate a movie with a pedophile actor in it. But looks like Ragnarok isn't even considered by the Academy either.
Meanwhile, Wonder Woman is on the list and is being considered by the Academy for a Best Picture Oscar nomination. That is outstanding since no other CBM besides The Dark Knight has ever been even been considered for a Best Picture Oscar nomination.
And the odds may change when the Golden Globes nominations are announced next month. The Golden Globes last year nominated a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever (Deadpool, although that was for the Comedy category). 41 of the last 46 movies that have been nominated for a Golden Globe for Best Picture in the Drama category have also been nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. So if the Golden Globes nominate Wonder Woman for Best Picture in the Drama category, then Wonder Woman is going to move into the "Frontrunners" list for a Best Picture Oscar nomination.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 18:20:45 GMT
Wonder Woman was ok. Worst superhero movie this year but that is not saying much because (havent seen Justice League yet) all have been great. Its an origin story. Well excecuted but nothing special. It reminded me too of Cap 1.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 20, 2017 18:43:54 GMT
[/p] Meanwhile, Wonder Woman is on the list [/quote] That's the thing...it's not on any lists for real consideration. DC just realized that with the Weinstein Scandal they have something politicized and are trying to take advantage of it. It won't be seriously considered for that stuff.
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Post by dazz on Nov 20, 2017 18:59:27 GMT
MCU is campaigning for a Best Picture Oscar for GotG2 and Raganarok, but I don't see them on the list. I can understand GotG2 not being listed because the Academy won't want to nominate a movie with a pedophile actor in it. But looks like Ragnarok isn't even considered by the Academy either.
Meanwhile, Wonder Woman is on the list and is being considered by the Academy for a Best Picture Oscar nomination. That is outstanding since no other CBM besides The Dark Knight has ever been even been considered for a Best Picture Oscar nomination.
And the odds may change when the Golden Globes nominations are announced next month. The Golden Globes last year nominated a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever (Deadpool, although that was for the Comedy category). 41 of the last 46 movies that have been nominated for a Golden Globe for Best Picture in the Drama category have also been nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. So if the Golden Globes nominate Wonder Woman for Best Picture in the Drama category, then Wonder Woman is going to move into the "Frontrunners" list for a Best Picture Oscar nomination.
41 out of 46 in what time period?
Also I doubt the AA's are influenced by the Golden Globes considering the GG's aren't taken seriously and people get nominated just to have them show up at the ceremonies and people have even mocked the fact they won, a better indicator is going to be the nominations for the various guild awards, seeing how these are voted on by people actually voting on the Oscars and not a few hundred journalist who can be easily bought off.
Also doesn't change the fact you've been spouting the same lie for ages now, WW maybe a dark horse for a nomination but you keep running around calling it a strong contender, the 2 are very different, at ths point if it gets a nod so what, it's getting it due to politics not merit, and so what if it does by all accounts this isn't a big year for that level of films so it's not like giving WW the nod is going to fill a spot of a real best picture contender.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 20, 2017 19:30:45 GMT
Is it as good as many people say it is ? Yes. Wonder Woman is rated the #1 best superhero movie of all time: 50 Best Superhero Movies of All Time. Wonder Woman is also a serious contender for a Best Picture Oscar nomination, which no superhero movie has ever gotten. It's not going to be a serious contender for a Best Picture Oscar nomination, it was a good movie but it wasn't *that * good, and the mixed reception to Justice League and the disappointing box office won't make whatever percentage of such a possibility any bit stronger( try weaker).
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Post by Larcen26 on Nov 20, 2017 19:51:01 GMT
Yes.
It was great.
It doesn't give eyesight to the blind and cure cancer like DC Fan seems to think, but it's a great movie.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 20, 2017 19:56:46 GMT
Yeah it's definitely worth a look.
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Post by merh on Nov 21, 2017 2:11:49 GMT
MCU is campaigning for a Best Picture Oscar for GotG2 and Raganarok, but I don't see them on the list. I can understand GotG2 not being listed because the Academy won't want to nominate a movie with a pedophile actor in it. But looks like Ragnarok isn't even considered by the Academy either.
Meanwhile, Wonder Woman is on the list and is being considered by the Academy for a Best Picture Oscar nomination. That is outstanding since no other CBM besides The Dark Knight has ever been even been considered for a Best Picture Oscar nomination.
And the odds may change when the Golden Globes nominations are announced next month. The Golden Globes last year nominated a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever (Deadpool, although that was for the Comedy category). 41 of the last 46 movies that have been nominated for a Golden Globe for Best Picture in the Drama category have also been nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. So if the Golden Globes nominate Wonder Woman for Best Picture in the Drama category, then Wonder Woman is going to move into the "Frontrunners" list for a Best Picture Oscar nomination.
Carrie Fisher has a better chance of getting nominated for Princess Leia
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 21, 2017 4:10:44 GMT
41 out of 46 in what time period? 2008 through 2016. The Golden Globes nominated 46 movies for the "Best Motion Picture – Drama" category in those 9 years and 41 of those 46 movies were also nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. I doubt the AA's are influenced by the Golden Globes considering the GG's aren't taken seriously The Golden Globes are considered the 2nd most prestigious awards after the Oscars so the Golden Globes are taken very seriously. And the Golden Globes have often been an accurate projection of the Oscars. Like I said, 41 of the last 46 movies nominated for a Golden Globe for "Best Motion Picture – Drama" have also been nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. WW maybe a dark horse for a nomination but you keep running around calling it a strong contender And when Donald Trump came down that escalator in Trump Tower and announced he was running for POTUS, he was a longshot and a dark horse to win the Presidency. Wonder Woman is on the Academy's short list for consideration for a Best Picture nomination. GotG2 and Ragnarok (which MCU is actively campaigning for this year) didn't make the list. No other CBM except The Dark Knight has ever even been considered by the Academy for a Best Picture Oscar nomination so Wonder Woman has already made it farther than every CBM not titled "The Dark Knight".
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 21, 2017 4:28:37 GMT
Wonder Woman is on the Academy's short list for consideration for a Best Picture nomination. GotG2 and Ragnarok (which MCU is actively campaigning for this year) didn't make the list. No other CBM except The Dark Knight has ever even been considered by the Academy for a Best Picture Oscar nomination so Wonder Woman has already made it farther than every CBM not titled "The Dark Knight". It's not on any real lists, and Ragnarok only just came out. Plus Marvel only JUST started campaigning for those movies. GOTG1 was nominated for 2 Oscars, after all. So it has sway with the Academy.
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Post by dazz on Nov 21, 2017 5:01:15 GMT
41 out of 46 in what time period? 2008 through 2016. The Golden Globes nominated 46 movies for the "Best Motion Picture – Drama" category in those 9 years and 41 of those 46 movies were also nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. I doubt the AA's are influenced by the Golden Globes considering the GG's aren't taken seriously The Golden Globes are considered the 2nd most prestigious awards after the Oscars so the Golden Globes are taken very seriously. And the Golden Globes have often been an accurate projection of the Oscars. Like I said, 41 of the last 46 movies nominated for a Golden Globe for "Best Motion Picture – Drama" have also been nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. WW maybe a dark horse for a nomination but you keep running around calling it a strong contender And when Donald Trump came down that escalator in Trump Tower and announced he was running for POTUS, he was a longshot and a dark horse to win the Presidency. Wonder Woman is on the Academy's short list for consideration for a Best Picture nomination. GotG2 and Ragnarok (which MCU is actively campaigning for this year) didn't make the list. No other CBM except The Dark Knight has ever even been considered by the Academy for a Best Picture Oscar nomination so Wonder Woman has already made it farther than every CBM not titled "The Dark Knight". I actually had a whole thing written out then I realised debating you is pointless you witless tick, so instead I will simply say is you're a liar and a fuck wit.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 21, 2017 5:12:47 GMT
2008 through 2016. The Golden Globes nominated 46 movies for the "Best Motion Picture – Drama" category in those 9 years and 41 of those 46 movies were also nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. The Golden Globes are considered the 2nd most prestigious awards after the Oscars so the Golden Globes are taken very seriously. And the Golden Globes have often been an accurate projection of the Oscars. Like I said, 41 of the last 46 movies nominated for a Golden Globe for "Best Motion Picture – Drama" have also been nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. And when Donald Trump came down that escalator in Trump Tower and announced he was running for POTUS, he was a longshot and a dark horse to win the Presidency. Wonder Woman is on the Academy's short list for consideration for a Best Picture nomination. GotG2 and Ragnarok (which MCU is actively campaigning for this year) didn't make the list. No other CBM except The Dark Knight has ever even been considered by the Academy for a Best Picture Oscar nomination so Wonder Woman has already made it farther than every CBM not titled "The Dark Knight". I actually had a whole thing written out then I realised debating you is pointless you witless tick, so instead I will simply say is you're a liar and a fuck wit.
Go ahead and post it, that way the whole forum can see him for his lies.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 5:25:27 GMT
I thought 'Wonder Woman' was a good movie but it had a bad villain choice and would have been better if they had set it in the 70s like most of the TV show with Lynda Carter. World War I was a bad setting in 2017 and the first 'Wonder Woman' movie should have gone with a female villain since 'Wonder Woman' has a large gallery of female villains such as Cheetah, Circe, Silver Swan, Decay, Medusa, Baroness von Gunther, Giganta and Queen Clea that would have been great choices for her to face on screen but Cheetah is rumoured to be the main villain for 'Wonder Woman 2' and if we get a third they might use Silver Swan, Circe or Decay.
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Post by dazz on Nov 21, 2017 6:00:18 GMT
I actually had a whole thing written out then I realised debating you is pointless you witless tick, so instead I will simply say is you're a liar and a fuck wit.
Go ahead and post it, that way the whole forum can see him for his lies. Fair enough.
For one thing his stat of 41/46 is misleading to slant the facts, is that fact true? maybe I dunno but the more accurate & important fact is 21/25 in the last 5 years, which means generally every year in recent memory the Golden Globes nominate 1 film that the Oscar's "snub" which if any film is going to get that snub it's likely to be the dark horse prospect, so saying if it gets a Golden Globes nomination ensures it's chances at an Oscar nom is idiotic.
Then theres the validity or importance of the globes, which is nill, atleast in terms of weight they carry in the industry, basically they mean nothing, their voted on by a few hundred journalist based in LA for international outlets, they don't represent the voting body of the Academy at all, they are the 2nd most "respected" awards show in the states based on exposure not actual worth, but even then it's only to the public the actual industry people don't respect it much, this is why unlike the Oscars where everyone tries to refrain from being silly or having fun at the Globes people get hammered and take the piss, even mocking the validity of their wins from time to time.
Also with the Globes they will nominate people just to get them to show up for a night of free booze, where as the Academy don't because it's too vast to do so, again the Globes voting pool is a few hundred people based in the same town, the Academy is over 6000 people who can be anywhere in the world at anytime so you cant collude with each other to ensure you nominate X to ensure they turn up, also the smaller voting pool means it's easier to buy nominations or even wins, a few hundred journalist is easier to buy off than a few thousand actors, directors and so on, the Globes have no more true value than the teen choice awards ffs.
Where as the DGA, PGA, WGA & SAG awards include people in the actual Academy voting pool, so when they nominate films you can take notice, as will others in the industry, if the DGA nominates someone for director of the year people in the industry pay attention because that's directors voting on whose the best director, not only that because these people also vote on the Oscars if the guilds all nominate the same 3 films then it's a safe bet the Academy will also because those people aren't just going to change their minds for no reason.
As for the Trump thing that doesn't justify anything, the point is DC Fan you keep running around calling WW a strong contender when it's not, is it a possible contender? yes but that's not the same thing, just because Trump was a long shot but won doesn't justify your blatant fucking lying, I once won a game of pool by getting the white to jump onto the edge of the table bounce back down when it got to the pocket there by circumventing the snooker my mate set me up on and potted my final red, just because I did it once doesn't mean there's a strong possibility that I can do it ever again, it also doesn't have fuck all to do with my chances of making a 7-10 split when bowling you troglodyte.
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Post by nemesis617 on Nov 21, 2017 6:05:01 GMT
It's a great film and definitely worth a look. Only one that is close would be Dark Knight.
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Post by dazz on Nov 21, 2017 6:15:13 GMT
I thought 'Wonder Woman' was a good movie but it had a bad villain choice and would have been better if they had set it in the 70s like most of the TV show with Lynda Carter. World War I was a bad setting in 2017 and the first 'Wonder Woman' movie should have gone with a female villain since 'Wonder Woman' has a large gallery of female villains such as Cheetah, Circe, Silver Swan, Decay, Medusa, Baroness von Gunther, Giganta and Queen Clea that would have been great choices for her to face on screen but Cheetah is rumoured to be the main villain for 'Wonder Woman 2' and if we get a third they might use Silver Swan, Circe or Decay. I like they went with a male villain first time out, the whole female heroes must have female villains thing is cheesy and lame, so it's nice they didn't go that way right off the bat, it just shows Wonder Woman can handle more than just other ladies which is a good thing to showcase imo.
My issue is more I dislike they wasted the chance to show more nuance to the character, such as she's going on about men being corrupted by Ares, then feeling despondent over man maybe naturally predisposed to war, ignoring how her first thought in solving the problem is to kill, that when Steve suggest saving lives her response is basically that's what I am doing by killing, her being bloodthirsty is overlooked, I don't even recall her caring for the fact her mission was to kill Ares and instead she murdered a somewhat normal man, sure he was evil but still she took him out cold, also dislike how it ended by pissing on the narrative BVS set up, which then JL reinforced.
Basically my issue was the final act which I thought let down what was shaping up to be a great film.
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