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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 24, 2017 10:29:24 GMT
Justice League isn't as great as Wonder Woman (which is ranked as the Best Superhero Movie of All Time and is a serious contender for a Best Picture Oscar nomination), but Justice League is definitely better than all 3 of the MCU movies released this year and is the best superhero team-up movie ever. Justice League has been compared to The Avengers, but Justice League is much better than The Avengers because: 1. Justice League had better team chemistry and team interactions.
The team chemistry was much better in Justice League, helped by the fact that the Justice League had 2 younger members (Flash and Cyborg) who were relatively inexperienced. So we saw a couple of good moments when the veterans took the role of mentors to the younger members (i.e. Batman telling Flash to "save one" person first and go from there and later Wonder Woman telling Cyborg to have confidence in his ability to find where Steppenwolf had taken the Mother Boxes). Justice League also had a good scene with Wonder Woman helping to heal Batman's dislocated shoulder after they had that argument. The Avengers didn't have any good moments like that.
2. Justice League had better teamwork.
Batman and Wonder Woman worked together to recruit the rest of the team. Flash helped Wonder Woman with the the falling sword. Aquaman held back the water while Batman, Wonder Woman, and Flash hung on the NightCrawler and Cyborg piloted the NightCrawler up the tunnel. Cyborg and Flash worked together to resurrect Superman. Superman and Flash worked together to save civilians. Wonder Woman used her shield to protect Aquaman from falling rocks. Superman and Cyborg worked together to separate the Mother Boxes. And Superman and Wonder Woman worked together to destroy Steppenwolf's axe.
We saw no teamwork in The Avengers. The rest of the Avengers just stood around while Iron Man single-handedly took the nuclear missile launched by the military into space and used it to destroy the Chitauri mother ship.
3. Justice League had a more formidable villain.
People say Steppenwolf was a weak villain but Steppenwolf was a much better villain than the Chitauri because Steppenwolf was a much more formidable threat than the Chitauri. It took an alliance of the Amazons, Atlanteans, all the tribes of Man, and even the Olympian Gods (including Zeus himself) to defeat Steppenwolf the 1st time. Before Superman arrived, Steppenwolf was tossing the other Justice Leaguers around like they were action figures and was having his way with them. By contrast, the Chitauri had no superpowers and were so weak that they couldn't even hurt or do any damage to the 2 Avengers without superpowers (Black Widow and Hawkeye).
A hero isn't a great hero unless he's challenged and pushed to the limit by a formidable adversary or opponent. Without Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker is just a farmboy and not the Jedi Knight who destroyed the Death Star and helped defeat the Galactic Empire. Steppenwolf was a formidable opponent for the Justice League, but the Chitauri were weak and no challenge at all for the Avengers.
Watching the Justice League battle Steppenwolf is like watching the Golden State Warriors play against the Cleveland Cavaliers. Watching the Avengers against the Chitauri is like watching the Cleveland Cavaliers play against a high school team. My rating for Justice League: 9 out of 10.
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Post by scabab on Nov 24, 2017 11:17:45 GMT
Well the equivalent of the Chitauri would have been the Parademons, you'd have to compare the fodder to make it fair. Just one of them is nothing but a whole army is a problem.
The equivalent of Steppenwolf would have been Loki or Ultron. Loki wasn't a hugely physical threat though he was still problematic.
Ultron was pretty formidable though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 11:20:57 GMT
bahahahahahaha biased to the extreme.
You forgot about Loki...
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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 24, 2017 12:51:11 GMT
Dude there is no way you can think this movie is better than The Avengers. No way. I know you are a biased troll, but this is not a 9/10 movie by any means. Read my review on this board. It is ACTUALLY unbiased. This movie was average and that is being generous.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Nov 24, 2017 18:05:22 GMT
Justice League isn't as great as Wonder Woman (which is ranked as the Best Superhero Movie of All Time and is a serious contender for a Best Picture Oscar nomination), but Justice League is definitely better than all 3 of the MCU movies released this year. Justice League has been compared to The Avengers, but Justice League is much better than The Avengers because: 1. Justice League had better team chemistry and team interactions.
The team chemistry was much better in Justice League, helped by the fact that the Justice League had 2 younger members (Flash and Cyborg) who were relatively inexperienced. So we saw a couple of good moments when the veterans took the role of mentors to the younger members (i.e. Batman telling Flash to "save one" person first and go from there and later Wonder Woman telling Cyborg to have confidence in his ability to find where Steppenwolf had taken the Mother Boxes). Justice League also had a good scene with Wonder Woman helping to heal Batman's dislocated shoulder after they had that argument. The Avengers didn't have any good moments like that.
2. Justice League had better teamwork.
Batman and Wonder Woman worked together to recruit the rest of the team. Flash helped Wonder Woman with the the falling sword. Aquaman held back the water while Batman, Wonder Woman, and Flash hung on the NightCrawler and Cyborg piloted the NightCrawler up the tunnel. Cyborg and Flash worked together to resurrect Superman. Superman and Flash worked together to save civilians. Wonder Woman used her shield to protect Aquaman from falling rocks. Superman and Cyborg worked together to separate the Mother Boxes. And Superman and Wonder Woman worked together to destroy Steppenwolf's axe.
We saw no teamwork in The Avengers. The rest of the Avengers just stood around while Iron Man single-handedly took the nuclear missile launched by the military into space and used it to destroy the Chitauri mother ship.
3. Justice League had a more formidable villain.
People say Steppenwolf was a weak villain but Steppenwolf was a much better villain than the Chitauri because Steppenwolf was a much more formidable threat than the Chitauri. It took an alliance of the Amazons, Atlanteans, all the tribes of Man, and even the Olympian Gods (including Zeus himself) to defeat Steppenwolf the 1st time. Before Superman arrived, Steppenwolf was tossing the other Justice Leaguers around like they were action figures and was having his way with them. By contrast, the Chitauri had no superpowers and were so weak that they couldn't even hurt or do any damage to the 2 Avengers without superpowers (Black Widow and Hawkeye).
A hero isn't a great hero unless he's challenged and pushed to the limit by a formidable adversary or opponent. Without Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker is just a farmboy and not the Jedi Knight who destroyed the Death Star and helped defeat the Galactic Empire. Steppenwolf was a formidable opponent for the Justice League, but the Chitauri were weak and no challenge at all for the Avengers.
Watching the Justice League battle Steppenwolf is like watching the Golden State Warriors play against the Cleveland Cavaliers. Watching the Avengers against the Chitauri is like watching the Cleveland Cavaliers play against a high school team. My rating for Justice League: 9 out of 10. Keep in mind, dude, this is just your opinion. You believe all this, fair enough, but the general consensus, including RottenTomatos say The Avengers is better, and there's nothing you can do or say to change that. |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 24, 2017 22:41:38 GMT
All of your main points are completely wrong.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 25, 2017 3:28:14 GMT
Dude there is no way you can think this movie is better than The Avengers. Justice League is much better than The Avengers. Read my review on this board. It is ACTUALLY unbiased. My review IS unbiased. I even provide plenty of examples to support my review. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 25, 2017 3:29:12 GMT
All of your main points are completely wrong. Nope, all my points are correct and true and valid. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 25, 2017 3:43:39 GMT
Dude there is no way you can think this movie is better than The Avengers. Justice League is much better than The Avengers. At sucking. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 25, 2017 3:46:53 GMT
My review of Justice League:  |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 25, 2017 3:56:59 GMT
My review of Justice League: How the Hell Patrick Stewart thought that was a good idea I'll never know. |
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Post by merh on Nov 25, 2017 5:57:08 GMT
Justice League has been compared to The Avengers, but Justice League is much better than The Avengers because: 1. Justice League had better team chemistry and team interactions.The team chemistry was much better in Justice League, helped by the fact that the Justice League had 2 younger members (Flash and Cyborg) who were relatively inexperienced. How does Avengers being seasoned warriors in their own ways make them worse than the JL? They were all competent in battle & worked together to do combo shots with one another. They knew how to fight together. The Avengers took Cap's directions as well as acted on problems as they arose. Widow & Hawkeye after she "reset" him to rescue him from Loki's mind control? IM running low on juice. All the team showing pain & weariness as the battle drew on longer, yet they fought on. Fury had been working on the Avengers project for years. He knew where to find Banner. Hawkeye, Widow, & Cap were SHIELD operatives. Stark was on retainer as advisor. Selvig & Foster were in their sphere of influence. Son of Coul was a valued ally to Thor & The emotional boost to pull IM onto the team. Cap gave Widow a lift. IM banked shots off Cap's Shield Thor Chitauri at the wormhole with lightning While the rest of the Avengers saved the public & fought the Chitauri The Avengers weren't stupid so they didn't kill a team member. Fury did resurrect Phil for Agents of SHIELD because he couldn't allow him to stay dead. . Like Widow & Hawkeye getting people off that bus? Damn Taking a break. Back after nap |
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Post by northernlad on Nov 25, 2017 6:00:14 GMT
You really think WW is going to get a Best Picture nomination? lol Dude...I loved the movie, but even I would say that is beyond reaching for the impossible.
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Post by merh on Nov 25, 2017 10:16:22 GMT
Wonder Woman used her shield to protect Aquaman from falling rocks. Like Cap diving in to help Iron Man against Thor in their fight? Or the team having one another's backs? Like Fury calling Stark about the nuke the World Council sent to take out Manhatten? Widow & Selvig worked together to close the portal There were numerous ships. They had to close the portal which is what Selvig & Widow did after Thor fought Loki, making him drop the scepter. m.ign.com/lists/top-100-comic-book-villainsI was moving fairly quickly, but is Steppenwolf even on the list? Loki is #8. The Chitauri were not the enemy, dude. Everyone has pointed this out to you. The actual foe is Thanos trying to use Loki so as not to drop to the level of doing such menial work, but the active foe is Loki. #8 in the top 100 villains, right behind Ra's Al Ghul at #7. . Good thing the Avengers had the Thunder god. Like Loki was unphased by the Avengers in Germany, let himself be captured? The parademons were not that formidable. So you need to make the enemy the Chitauri because you know Loki would destroy Steppenwolf? And JL vs the parademons is weak as well. Hell, I gave the first 2 Thor movies a 10. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 25, 2017 17:46:14 GMT
You really think WW is going to get a Best Picture nomination? Yes, it's on many lists of potential Oscar nominees and has a strong chance. Like I said before, the Golden Globes is the key since 41 of the last 46 movies that the Golden Globe nominated in the Best Motion Picture - Drama category have also been nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. And the Golden Globes last year demonstrated that they are willing to nominate a CBM for Best Picture (Deadpool, although that was in the Comedy category). |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 25, 2017 17:49:53 GMT
You really think WW is going to get a Best Picture nomination? Yes, it's on many lists of potential Oscar nominees and has a strong chance. No it isn't. It's gotten WB to give it money for a campaign but it doesn't have any real chances. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 25, 2017 17:55:06 GMT
The Chitauri were not the enemy, dude. The Chitauri were the main enemy in The Avengers. Thor was the only 1 who fought Loki and Hulk had 1 scene where he tossed Loki around like a rag doll (further proof that Loki is just another weak villain). But it was the Chitauri that Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Iron Man, Hulk, and Thor spent the majority of their time fighting in the final battle. So the Chitauri were the main enemy in The Avengers, while Steppenwolf (which all the JL fought in the final battle) was the main enemy in Justice League. And Steppenwolf was a powerful and formidable villain, while the Chitauri were such weak villains that they couldn't even hurt or do any damage to the 2 Avengers without superpowers. Think about that. The main enemy in The Avengers were so weak that they couldn't even hurt even do damage to 2 ordinary humans without superpowers and the entire Chitauri Army was defeated by 1 nuclear missile from the military. So the Chitauri could've been defeated by any country in the world with a nuclear missile and the Avengers weren't even needed. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 25, 2017 19:16:54 GMT
The Chitauri were the main enemy in The Avengers. No, Loki was. |
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Post by merh on Nov 26, 2017 0:50:40 GMT
The Chitauri were not the enemy, dude. The Chitauri were the main enemy in The Avengers. Thor was the only 1 who fought Loki and Hulk had 1 scene where he tossed Loki around like a rag doll (further proof that Loki is just another weak villain). But it was the Chitauri that Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Iron Man, Hulk, and Thor spent the majority of their time fighting in the final battle. So the Chitauri were the main enemy in The Avengers, while Steppenwolf (which all the JL fought in the final battle) was the main enemy in Justice League. And Steppenwolf was a powerful and formidable villain, while the Chitauri were such weak villains that they couldn't even hurt or do any damage to the 2 Avengers without superpowers. Think about that. The main enemy in The Avengers were so weak that they couldn't even hurt even do damage to 2 ordinary humans without superpowers and the entire Chitauri Army was defeated by 1 nuclear missile from the military. So the Chitauri could've been defeated by any country in the world with a nuclear missile and the Avengers weren't even needed. Loki came thru that gate ALONE. Mind controlled Hawkeye & Selvig. Fought Fury & Hill. Destroyed a base. Killed 75 people, was it? Serious enough for Fury to assemble his team of heroes. Loki shows up in Germany. Kills a few more humans. Fights Cap. Surrenders to IM more it seems to get on the ship & muck with everyone's heads while the agents he controls attacks the base, scattering the team, killing the Son of Coul in front of Thor. Oh, & Widow played mind games with him. She discovered his goal coming on the ship was Hulk. What the HELL do you mean the Chitauri are the main villain? They don't even show up to fight until the last third of the movie. The object of conversation throughout the film is Loki. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 26, 2017 0:58:24 GMT
The Chitauri were the main enemy in The Avengers. Thor was the only 1 who fought Loki and Hulk had 1 scene where he tossed Loki around like a rag doll (further proof that Loki is just another weak villain). But it was the Chitauri that Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Iron Man, Hulk, and Thor spent the majority of their time fighting in the final battle. So the Chitauri were the main enemy in The Avengers, while Steppenwolf (which all the JL fought in the final battle) was the main enemy in Justice League. And Steppenwolf was a powerful and formidable villain, while the Chitauri were such weak villains that they couldn't even hurt or do any damage to the 2 Avengers without superpowers. Think about that. The main enemy in The Avengers were so weak that they couldn't even hurt even do damage to 2 ordinary humans without superpowers and the entire Chitauri Army was defeated by 1 nuclear missile from the military. So the Chitauri could've been defeated by any country in the world with a nuclear missile and the Avengers weren't even needed. Loki came thru that gate ALONE. Mind controlled Hawkeye & Selvig. Fought Fury & Hill. Destroyed a base. Killed 75 people, was it? Serious enough for Fury to assemble his team of heroes. Loki shows up in Germany. Kills a few more humans. Fights Cap. Surrenders to IM more it seems to get on the ship & muck with everyone's heads while the agents he controls attacks the base, scattering the team, killing the Son of Coul in front of Thor. Oh, & Widow played mind games with him. She discovered his goal coming on the ship was Hulk. What the HELL do you mean the Chitauri are the main villain? They don't even show up to fight until the last third of the movie. The object of conversation throughout the film is Loki. Loki wasn't the main villain. The Chitauri were the main villain. It was the Chitauri that Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Iron Man, Hulk, and Thor spent the majority of their time fighting in the final battle.
Other than Thor (and Hulk tossing him around like a rag doll, which further proves that Loki is just another weak MCU villain), the rest of the Avengers didn't fight Loki in the final battle. So Loki was nothing more than a henchman. Look at Bond movies. Bond fights the henchman early on in the movie, but in the final battle Bond fights the main villain. Calling Loki the main villain in The Avengers is like calling OddJob or Jaws the main villain in those Bond movies.
OddJob and Jaws were henchmen in those Bond movies, and Loki was a henchman in The Avengers. The Chitauri were the main villains.
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