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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 20:29:07 GMT
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 30, 2017 20:32:42 GMT
1 - 5 : it sucks
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 22:43:05 GMT
The foundation is just weak. Pure and simple.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 30, 2017 23:52:20 GMT
Rebooting won’t do any good. People are sick of reboots, and they’re already too far into the game. They just need to get rid of Batman (he is not profitable anymore) and lay off on any team-up movies until they get a string of successful solo films.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 1, 2017 0:04:36 GMT
This isn't the first time a superhero film franchise stalled. They should just let Aquaman, Shazam, and the Batman proceed as planned. Accept that Batman versus Superman happened and there's no erasing it. Let Flashpoint serve enough of a reboot so that Batman is recast. Go from there. This is of course assuming that Justice League even breaks even at this point.
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Post by reelreviews2 on Dec 3, 2017 21:01:00 GMT
Rebooting won’t do any good. People are sick of reboots, and they’re already too far into the game. You should have given Nolan/Snyder/Goyer that advice back in 2012. Then we would have been spared from the current abominations. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 3, 2017 21:47:03 GMT
Rebooting won’t do any good. People are sick of reboots, and they’re already too far into the game. You should have given Nolan/Snyder/Goyer that advice back in 2012. Then we would have been spared from the current abominations. There was no DC film universe back then. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 4, 2017 1:35:39 GMT
Agreed, you can't have this many fails and just keep pressing on.
The thing that continues to work for Marvel is that all of the films sell all of the other films. If they had this poisonous group of films in the franchise, the MCU wouldn't be working like it is.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 1:51:54 GMT
Agreed, you can't have this many fails and just keep pressing on.
The thing that continues to work for Marvel is that all of the films sell all of the other films. If they had this poisonous group of films in the franchise, the MCU wouldn't be working like it is.
Not to mention they just tell stories and all the cohesive tissue is either background noise or in the bonus scenes. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 4, 2017 1:59:09 GMT
Agreed, you can't have this many fails and just keep pressing on.
The thing that continues to work for Marvel is that all of the films sell all of the other films. If they had this poisonous group of films in the franchise, the MCU wouldn't be working like it is.
Not to mention they just tell stories and all the cohesive tissue is either background noise or in the bonus scenes. True, and the way they address plot points later on, really makes it feel like a living breathing organism. It's fantastic. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 4, 2017 5:06:06 GMT
Rebooting won’t do any good. People are sick of reboots, and they’re already too far into the game. They just need to get rid of Batman (he is not profitable anymore) and lay off on any team-up movies until they get a string of successful solo films. I agree with most of this, except for Batman - Batman's still a very huge brand, however I do think they should tone down the emphasis on him and his cast of characters for a bit - this is a good opportunity to let other DC characters shine and become just as well known and popular - like what Marvel did with their B-listers with the MCU, turn them into A listers. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 4, 2017 5:08:23 GMT
You should have given Nolan/Snyder/Goyer that advice back in 2012. Then we would have been spared from the current abominations. There was no DC film universe back then. And Nolan never intended his Batman films to be anything other than a trilogy, he made that clear in his contract with Warner. Man of Steel was a different story, Warner came in and made it the official start of the DCEU and Snyder couldn't say no to it. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 4, 2017 5:18:06 GMT
Rebooting won’t do any good. People are sick of reboots, and they’re already too far into the game. They just need to get rid of Batman (he is not profitable anymore) and lay off on any team-up movies until they get a string of successful solo films. I agree with most of this, except for Batman - Batman's still a very huge brand, however I do think they should tone down the emphasis on him and his cast of characters for a bit - this is a good opportunity to let other DC characters shine and become just as well known and popular - like what Marvel did with their B-listers with the MCU, turn them into A listers. and JL would suggest that his appeal is severely waning. People are sick of him. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 4, 2017 5:37:13 GMT
There was no DC film universe back then. And Nolan never intended his Batman films to be anything other than a trilogy, he made that clear in his contract with Warner. Man of Steel was a different story, Warner came in and made it the official start of the DCEU and Snyder couldn't say no to it. False. It wasn't even meant to be a trilogy.
"Christopher Nolan didn't technically "intend" anything for a third film, because The Dark Knight was written and filmed on its own and without any direct view toward a sequel. Mr. Nolan didn't know if he'd want to ever make another one. It took a lot of convincing by Warner Brothers to get him to come back for the second film anyway, and his attitude is to approach each film as a stand-alone production and not think about what comes next.
Christopher Nolan almost didn't come back to make this third film, remember. He was very close to walking away completely after making The Dark Knight. He returned only because of the long months spent by himself and David Goyer drafting a story that made Mr. Nolan feel compelled to return and make this new film.
So on the one hand, then, Christopher Nolan did not "intend" for the Joker to appear in The Dark Knight Rises because Mr. Nolan didn't have a specific intention to even make a third film at all" |
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Post by reelreviews2 on Dec 4, 2017 5:38:45 GMT
There was no DC film universe back then. Exactly my point. There was Superman Returns, which was an OK movie with an excellent Superman and just a lame, boring script. Bryan Singer promised to go "Wrath of Khan on the sequel" and follow it up with a much more dynamic and engaging movie. Instead, WB opted to start over from scratch and hired Nolan/Snyder/Goyer to give us the current crappy universe. All three of movies in the current universe got FAR worse reviews than Superman Returns, the movie that the current universe was supposedly made to "correct". So your words would have been far more useful in 2012, if you had urged them NOT to get rid of Brandon Routh and NOT to let Nolan "reboot" the whole thing. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 4, 2017 6:33:50 GMT
And Nolan never intended his Batman films to be anything other than a trilogy, he made that clear in his contract with Warner. Man of Steel was a different story, Warner came in and made it the official start of the DCEU and Snyder couldn't say no to it. False. It wasn't even meant to be a trilogy.
"Christopher Nolan didn't technically "intend" anything for a third film, because The Dark Knight was written and filmed on its own and without any direct view toward a sequel. Mr. Nolan didn't know if he'd want to ever make another one. It took a lot of convincing by Warner Brothers to get him to come back for the second film anyway, and his attitude is to approach each film as a stand-alone production and not think about what comes next.
Christopher Nolan almost didn't come back to make this third film, remember. He was very close to walking away completely after making The Dark Knight. He returned only because of the long months spent by himself and David Goyer drafting a story that made Mr. Nolan feel compelled to return and make this new film.
So on the one hand, then, Christopher Nolan did not "intend" for the Joker to appear in The Dark Knight Rises because Mr. Nolan didn't have a specific intention to even make a third film at all"Well, alright. Was always under a different impression. |
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