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Post by gadreel on Dec 5, 2017 21:20:24 GMT
gadreel
Well here is but one example (hit it smokey): Largely ceremonial, and yet here they are using it as a weapon, I stand by my popular science assessment.
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Post by maya55555 on Dec 5, 2017 22:09:16 GMT
Gadreel
Honey, that is but one example and they have been filming for five seasons.
That show inspired me to read about metallurgy. It is interesting.
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Post by gadreel on Dec 5, 2017 22:15:34 GMT
Gadreel
Honey, that is but one example and they have been filming for five seasons.
That show inspired me to read about metallurgy. It is interesting. ok sure, and that one example and the scissors thing have so far shown me that of all the examples provided 100% of them are popular history not actual academia. But it's TV, I never expected anything more.
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Post by maya55555 on Dec 5, 2017 23:00:24 GMT
gadreel
Whatever, but the forging principles are the same. They were challenged to make a Falcata sword. Any problems with that? Hannibal wanted those for his army.
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Post by gadreel on Dec 5, 2017 23:53:00 GMT
gadreel
Whatever, but the forging principles are the same. They were challenged to make a Falcata sword. Any problems with that? Hannibal wanted those for his army. I love how precious you get when someone makes a simple observation.
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Post by maya55555 on Dec 6, 2017 2:16:08 GMT
gadreel
What is your definition of an "academic sword"?
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Post by gadreel on Dec 6, 2017 2:35:22 GMT
gadreel
What is your definition of an "academic sword"?
one with a flat hat. but my definition of academia is that actual research is done and used, i don't expect that from a tv show
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Post by maya55555 on Dec 6, 2017 4:35:51 GMT
gadreel
Watch the show. BTW, you are wrong.
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Post by cupcakes on Dec 6, 2017 14:34:23 GMT
tpfkar Remember when you didn't want to get into comparative terror attacks by Christians and Muslims? Start there. The vast majority of global terrorism is Islamic, which you know. Every nation that has the death penalty for homosexuality is Islamic, although progressive Iran does allow gays to have a sex change instead. Leaving Islam is punishable by death. Blasphemy is punishable by death. Atheists are classed as terrorist in Saudi Arabia. 50% of British Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal, and I think it was 40% wanted Sharia law in the UK. Islamophobia is not a real thing. It is a defacto blasphemy law that works by conflating religion and race. Increasing areas of Europe are becoming states within states, governed by Islamic Law.The UK has seen "Sharia Patrols" harassing women, suspected gay men and anyone drinking alcohol. 80% of British Pakistani women can't speak English properly, wonder why? Both Pakistani and Bangladeshi populations in the UK are vastly outperformed in terms of education and employment by Indian immigrants. Wonder why? Muslims are massively over represented in prison numbers in France, Belgium and Sweden. Probably a coincidence. NZ's population is 1% Islamic, wait till that trebles. Then you will start to see calls for "inclusion" of Islamic practices. Already Europe is turning a blind eye to illegal practices such as child marriage and polygamy due to "cultural difference" The UK even has provision for this in it's benefits system. "Cultural difference" has also been used to mitigate sentences for sexual offences including rape in Britain, Sweden and Germany. Thanks to our Islamic Enrichment, this is what our Christmas Markets now look like. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5100087/Armed-guards-concrete-barriers-Christmas-markets.htmlAnd our bridges cdn.citylab.com/media/img/citylab/2017/06/Westminster_crash_barrier-1/facebook.jpg?1497538576The death penalty is not the measure. Law enforcement should do their job. "Turning a blind eye" to illegality is insanity, not that I trust your rightist line and sources one whit. And the links you posted were to articles on terrorist attacks (at least according to the urls), and not "cultural enrichment". All in all a typical comically slanted counterproductive and shrill effort. The question on the table was "But what explanation are you offering for why certain minorities are overrepresented in certain crimes?"
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Post by gadreel on Dec 7, 2017 17:19:22 GMT
I don't think you can interpret a holy text by yourself though, I don't think organised religion is the best way, but it certainly has some advantages That is the point though Gad. The text is open to selective interpretation, to suit the agenda and the means at the time. It was the law book of it's time, is archaic and out of touch and most of it isn't even relevant anymore. It's more than just a law book, in fact the laws and regulations are the least useful part.
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Post by goz on Dec 8, 2017 2:26:42 GMT
That is the point though Gad. The text is open to selective interpretation, to suit the agenda and the means at the time. It was the law book of it's time, is archaic and out of touch and most of it isn't even relevant anymore. It's more than just a law book, in fact the laws and regulations are the least useful part. In your opinion, what is the universally useful part?
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Post by gadreel on Dec 10, 2017 17:27:09 GMT
It's more than just a law book, in fact the laws and regulations are the least useful part. In your opinion, what is the universally useful part? That is a strange question, but I read the bible mostly for the spiritual teachings, there are some good parables too, and even the laws are interesting, just not always practical with a modern understanding.
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Post by gadreel on Dec 10, 2017 17:27:53 GMT
gadreel
Watch the show. BTW, you are wrong.
How am I wrong and about what?
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Post by maya55555 on Dec 10, 2017 19:06:59 GMT
gadreel
You are wrong as this program has pop-ups which tell one a bit about the forging process and how these weapons were used in history.
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Post by gadreel on Dec 10, 2017 19:11:31 GMT
gadreel
You are wrong as this program has pop-ups which tell one a bit about the forging process and how these weapons were used in history. I cannot be wrong about what I expect from a TV show, unless I am lying. Yay, good for the show, they have pop-up factoids, that is more than I expect, I still stand by my statement that it is a popular show and does not have a huge amount of academic credibility, especially in use of the more obscure weapons (naturally because they will gun for obscurity of accuracy as it will improve their ratings). But the point is that this is a TV show, one does not expect 100% accuracy.
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Post by maya55555 on Dec 10, 2017 20:15:51 GMT
gadreel
Well, I am not a blacksmith or a farrier, as some of the contestants are, but I have learned quite a bit from the program. The main thing I have in common, is the quench time affecting our metals. I used to work in gold and silver, lost wax technique. That is a different animal.
They are very serious about their craft, as one competitor made a set of cutlery for the White House, under Obama. They are true artists.
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Post by gadreel on Dec 10, 2017 20:21:56 GMT
gadreel
Well, I am not a blacksmith or a farrier, as some of the contestants are, but I have learned quite a bit from the program. The main thing I have in common, is the quench time affecting our metals. I used to work in gold and silver, lost wax technique. That is a different animal.
They are very serious about their craft, as one competitor made a set of cutlery for the White House, under Obama. They are true artists. I have no doubts they know how to blacksmith, that does not mean that they know about the things they are making per se, but as I said it's a TV show, one cannot expect it to be 100% accurate on obscure subjects.
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Post by maya55555 on Dec 10, 2017 20:28:06 GMT
gadreel
Well they "hit the books" before they dive into the forge. The weapons parameters are given and are strictly held. POF, when given an obscure weapon, it increases the stress on the forger, as he/she may not have ever seen it.
Again, they show you the mockups that they fabricate before handing in a final weapon. That weapon is subjected to grueling tests to see if the blade holds true.
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Post by gadreel on Dec 10, 2017 20:31:20 GMT
gadreel
Well they "hit the books" before they dive into the forge. The weapons parameters are given and are strictly held. POF, when given an obscure weapon, it increases the stress on the forger, as he/she may not have ever seen it.
Again, they show you the mockups that they fabricate before handing in a final weapon. That weapon is subjected to grueling tests to see if the blade holds true. I doubt they hit any books for the scissors thing, it is not documented.
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Post by maya55555 on Dec 10, 2017 21:26:07 GMT
gadreel
Hit the books = Google it.
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