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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 23, 2017 0:56:14 GMT
Its pretty obvious that its the story about how the Targaryens takes back the Iron throne. The only obvious thing in this story is that what people think is obvious is a misdirection. Daenerys is a silver-haired herring.
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Post by kevin on Mar 9, 2017 20:21:37 GMT
Season 7 premieres July 16, 2017.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 21:35:36 GMT
Teaser was awesome. They sure do know how to do visuals.
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Post by kevin on Jul 13, 2017 14:46:27 GMT
Has anyone seen the premiere in LA or know anyone who saw it? I know nobody's allowed to give any details about the plot of the episode and I'm not asking for that, but did the people that watched it like it? How would they rate it on a scale from 1 - 10?
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Post by kevin on Jul 13, 2017 14:50:27 GMT
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 13, 2017 15:07:05 GMT
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Post by kevin on Jul 13, 2017 20:47:07 GMT
Just watched this YouTube video about some of the best shots in Game of Thrones and it really is a great video.
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Post by Ad○rably Obn○xi○us🐢 on Jul 14, 2017 3:51:04 GMT
I thought the Tyrells conspired with Littlefinger, Olenna pretty much admitted it. I don't believe Sansa had a clue what was going on. Tyrion conspired with Olenna. Sansa knew about it. Olenna used Littlefinger, never said a thing about Tyrion or Sansa being involved, so Sansa could play the innocent with him. Tyrion was framed as a casualty from the start, his being right in the middle of it when it happened just accelerated things. Olenna lied to Margaery about it, of course
Shae wasn't lying at the trial. No one was. Tyrion made it look like a farce, pretended to be accused of being a dwarf so he would put a plausible alternative into the room in case he won the trial by combat. He knew he couldn't withstand a closer investigation and hoped to manipulate his brother into fighting for him.
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Post by poelzig on Jul 14, 2017 4:02:27 GMT
Tyrion conspired with Olenna. Sansa knew about it. Olenna used Littlefinger, never said a thing about Tyrion or Sansa being involved, so Sansa could play the innocent with him. Tyrion was framed as a casualty from the start, his being right in the middle of it when it happened just accelerated things. Olenna lied to Margaery about it, of course
Shae wasn't lying at the trial. No one was. Tyrion made it look like a farce, pretended to be accused of being a dwarf so he would put a plausible alternative into the room in case he won the trial by combat. He knew he couldn't withstand a closer investigation and hoped to manipulate his brother into fighting for him.
What episode was it revealed that Tyrion conspired with Olenna and that Sansa knew about it? It wasn't. That kid is obsessed with the murderous villain cersei "I love to bang my kin folk" lannister so he makes stuff up. |
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Post by Ad○rably Obn○xi○us🐢 on Jul 14, 2017 4:03:34 GMT
What episode was it revealed that Tyrion conspired with Olenna and that Sansa knew about it? It wasn't. That kid is obsessed with the murderous villain cersei "I love to bang my kin folk" lannister so he makes stuff up. Well I know he loves him some Cersei, but I didn't expect this, it doesn't even have anything to do with her lol. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 14, 2017 6:08:21 GMT
Tyrion conspired with Olenna. Sansa knew about it. Olenna used Littlefinger, never said a thing about Tyrion or Sansa being involved, so Sansa could play the innocent with him. Tyrion was framed as a casualty from the start, his being right in the middle of it when it happened just accelerated things. Olenna lied to Margaery about it, of course
Shae wasn't lying at the trial. No one was. Tyrion made it look like a farce, pretended to be accused of being a dwarf so he would put a plausible alternative into the room in case he won the trial by combat. He knew he couldn't withstand a closer investigation and hoped to manipulate his brother into fighting for him.
What episode was it revealed that Tyrion conspired with Olenna and that Sansa knew about it? It wasn't revealed. They all lied about it  |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 14, 2017 6:25:31 GMT
It wasn't. That kid is obsessed with the murderous villain cersei "I love to bang my kin folk" lannister so he makes stuff up. Well I know he loves him some Cersei, but I didn't expect this, it doesn't even have anything to do with her lol. Everything's interconnected. |
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Post by PnkELee on Jul 18, 2017 4:45:38 GMT
Conflicting feelings about Sansa challenging Jon about Umber/Karstarks.
The karstarks, well, that was Robbs doing. Jon is too lenient with the Umbers, though. Its natural for a vassal to be ambitious but just because you understand opportunism doesnt mean that you should suffer all offenses. The Umbers betrayed the last Stark heir to the Boltons. Come on.
I dont want to agree that Jon chose the best course of action but he did. Cersei isnt a major threat but war is war. And with war also coming from the North, Jon doesnt have time to fritter away dealing with a bunch of division and cycling through his bannerman. The umbers are still a strong house. He needs their numbers.
Besides, House Umber is headed by a child who could be brought under Jons influence. That in my opinion is the best reason for Jon to stay his hand. If House Umber were led by a 16 year old "adult" son, Id agree that Jon should play nice for now but conspire to revoke/usurp their title when the war ends. Its a child, though. Loyalty can be pressed into him.
Anyway, Sansa. She has no patience. She doesnt know how to bide her time. Shes all fire. Though, she is ridiculous, I dont blame her for chafing at the bit. A woman shouldnt be expected to be okay with swallowing shyte and allowing another to take what belongs to her when any man worth his salt would fight and kill you for the same.
So, I was with her, trying to fook Jon over, LOL, until the moment of truth and the North swore for him. I think, her leading the Vale cavalry WITH Littlefinger hurt her cause. And I think, the time for undermining Jon is over. For one, theyve got a war to fight. There are more important things going on.
Also? The North will never back her claim because LF owns her as he owns Robin and the Eyrie. *Her* bannermen were smart to side with Jon. Sansa shouldnt personalize it. Their support of jon wasnt a rejection of her, in my opinion.
That said, they chose well. Jons the better leader. Sansa wasnt reared to be an heir and it shows.
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Post by OmegaWolf747 on Jul 18, 2017 8:07:45 GMT
Conflicting feelings about Sansa challenging Jon about Umber/Karstarks. The karstarks, well, that was Robbs doing. Jon is too lenient with the Umbers, though. Its natural for a vassal to be ambitious but just because you understand opportunism doesnt mean that you should suffer all offenses. The Umbers betrayed the last Stark heir to the Boltons. Come on. I dont want to agree that Jon chose the best course of action but he did. Cersei isnt a major threat but war is war. And with war also coming from the North, Jon doesnt have time to fritter away dealing with a bunch of division and cycling through his bannerman. The umbers are still a strong house. He needs their numbers. Besides, House Umber is headed by a child who could be brought under Jons influence. That in my opinion is the best reason for Jon to stay his hand. If House Umber were led by a 16 year old "adult" son, Id agree that Jon should play nice for now but conspire to revoke/usurp their title when the war ends. Its a child, though. Loyalty can be pressed into him. Anyway, Sansa. She has no patience. She doesnt know how to bide her time. Shes all fire. Though, she is ridiculous, I dont blame her for chafing at the bit. A woman shouldnt be expected to be okay with swallowing shyte and allowing another to take what belongs to her when any man worth his salt would fight and kill you for the same. So, I was with her, trying to fook Jon over, LOL, until the moment of truth and the North swore for him. I think, her leading the Vale cavalry WITH Littlefinger hurt her cause. And I think, the time for undermining Jon is over. For one, theyve got a war to fight. There are more important things going on. Also? The North will never back her claim because LF owns her as he owns Robin and the Eyrie. *Her* bannermen were smart to side with Jon. Sansa shouldnt personalize it. Their support of jon wasnt a rejection of her, in my opinion. That said, they chose well. Jons the better leader. Sansa wasnt reared to be an heir and it shows. Yes. Sansa's more concerned with personal revenge, whilst Jon looks at the big picture. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 18, 2017 9:31:06 GMT
Go Arya!
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Post by pk9 on Jul 19, 2017 21:12:02 GMT
Conflicting feelings about Sansa challenging Jon about Umber/Karstarks. The karstarks, well, that was Robbs doing. Jon is too lenient with the Umbers, though. Its natural for a vassal to be ambitious but just because you understand opportunism doesnt mean that you should suffer all offenses. The Umbers betrayed the last Stark heir to the Boltons. Come on. I dont want to agree that Jon chose the best course of action but he did. Cersei isnt a major threat but war is war. And with war also coming from the North, Jon doesnt have time to fritter away dealing with a bunch of division and cycling through his bannerman. The umbers are still a strong house. He needs their numbers. Besides, House Umber is headed by a child who could be brought under Jons influence. That in my opinion is the best reason for Jon to stay his hand. If House Umber were led by a 16 year old "adult" son, Id agree that Jon should play nice for now but conspire to revoke/usurp their title when the war ends. Its a child, though. Loyalty can be pressed into him. Anyway, Sansa. She has no patience. She doesnt know how to bide her time. Shes all fire. Though, she is ridiculous, I dont blame her for chafing at the bit. A woman shouldnt be expected to be okay with swallowing shyte and allowing another to take what belongs to her when any man worth his salt would fight and kill you for the same. So, I was with her, trying to fook Jon over, LOL, until the moment of truth and the North swore for him. I think, her leading the Vale cavalry WITH Littlefinger hurt her cause. And I think, the time for undermining Jon is over. For one, theyve got a war to fight. There are more important things going on. Also? The North will never back her claim because LF owns her as he owns Robin and the Eyrie. *Her* bannermen were smart to side with Jon. Sansa shouldnt personalize it. Their support of jon wasnt a rejection of her, in my opinion. That said, they chose well. Jons the better leader. Sansa wasnt reared to be an heir and it shows. The more I think about it, the more I side with Jon. Jon knows they need every able body to fight the WW, and by showing mercy he believes that he will get the Umbers and Karstarks on his side. Especially with their heads of houses officially bending the knee to him. Now, he could be wrong about this, but it's still a better solution than Sansa's. Sansa wants to kick the families out of the castles, but the result would be that those families would be in the position the Starks were in previously, and they would be enemies of Jon and acting to try to retake their homes. If Sansa really wants to punish the entire houses for Smalljon and Harald's treachery, the only practical solution is Tywin's: they need to exterminate the entire family lines. I don't think Sansa has in her to commit genocide, so she made a halfway proposal which would have been disastrous. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 20, 2017 0:21:55 GMT
Conflicting feelings about Sansa challenging Jon about Umber/Karstarks. The karstarks, well, that was Robbs doing. Jon is too lenient with the Umbers, though. Its natural for a vassal to be ambitious but just because you understand opportunism doesnt mean that you should suffer all offenses. The Umbers betrayed the last Stark heir to the Boltons. Come on. I dont want to agree that Jon chose the best course of action but he did. Cersei isnt a major threat but war is war. And with war also coming from the North, Jon doesnt have time to fritter away dealing with a bunch of division and cycling through his bannerman. The umbers are still a strong house. He needs their numbers. Besides, House Umber is headed by a child who could be brought under Jons influence. That in my opinion is the best reason for Jon to stay his hand. If House Umber were led by a 16 year old "adult" son, Id agree that Jon should play nice for now but conspire to revoke/usurp their title when the war ends. Its a child, though. Loyalty can be pressed into him. Anyway, Sansa. She has no patience. She doesnt know how to bide her time. Shes all fire. Though, she is ridiculous, I dont blame her for chafing at the bit. A woman shouldnt be expected to be okay with swallowing shyte and allowing another to take what belongs to her when any man worth his salt would fight and kill you for the same. So, I was with her, trying to fook Jon over, LOL, until the moment of truth and the North swore for him. I think, her leading the Vale cavalry WITH Littlefinger hurt her cause. And I think, the time for undermining Jon is over. For one, theyve got a war to fight. There are more important things going on. Also? The North will never back her claim because LF owns her as he owns Robin and the Eyrie. *Her* bannermen were smart to side with Jon. Sansa shouldnt personalize it. Their support of jon wasnt a rejection of her, in my opinion. That said, they chose well. Jons the better leader. Sansa wasnt reared to be an heir and it shows. Yes. Sansa's more concerned with personal revenge, whilst Jon looks at the big picture. It is not big picture thinking to work with your enemies. The only reason Sansa will be wrong on this one is if the story demands it because common sense is definitely not at play here. If Jon wanted to use them, they should have been sent to the Wall and rather than losing their lands, they would gain them back after the war. |
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Post by OmegaWolf747 on Jul 26, 2017 23:27:48 GMT
Wow! Huge set back for Dany at the end of the episode!
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Post by northernlad on Jul 27, 2017 15:32:12 GMT
What episode was it revealed that Tyrion conspired with Olenna and that Sansa knew about it? It wasn't. That kid is obsessed with the murderous villain cersei "I love to bang my kin folk" lannister so he makes stuff up. This! You just kind of have to ignore this guy (kid). He makes stuff up that didn't really happen in the show just to suit his purpose...which from what I've seen is basically trolling. |
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on Jul 28, 2017 3:19:05 GMT
They should retitle this thread 'GOT fan fiction.' Or re-name the board Former IMDb, all trolls welcome. |
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