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Post by damngumby on Dec 3, 2017 15:44:03 GMT
Development began in 1996 and languished in development hell for nearly 20 years. Clearly, the studio had very little confidence in a big budget female led superhero movie.
Why did they finally pull the trigger in 2015?
Marvel officially announced their plans for a Captain Marvel movie in 2014.
Coincidence?
It’s about as “coincidental” as all the plot similarities to Captain American: The First Avenger.
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Post by scabab on Dec 3, 2017 16:19:06 GMT
Who knows. Like I brought up in another thread.
Spider-man began development in 1985? I think around then. Took 17 years before it actually came out though.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 3, 2017 16:40:41 GMT
Probably because of how films like Catwoman and Elektra been received in the past. There was a belief that they couldn't be successful and no one wanted a CBM with a female lead.
The 2017 Wonder Woman movie obviously proved them wrong.
Here's hoping that all female CBM films do well!
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Post by politicidal on Dec 3, 2017 17:10:03 GMT
Probably because of how films like Catwoman and Elektra been received in the past. There was a belief that they couldn't be successful and no one wanted a CBM with a female lead. The 2017 Wonder Woman movie obviously proved them wrong. Here's hoping that all female CBM films do well! Indeed. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 3, 2017 17:20:17 GMT
Just an FYI, the WW movie was actually announced before Marvel announced Captain Marvel.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 17:26:31 GMT
Just an FYI, the WW movie was actually announced before Marvel announced Captain Marvel.Correct by two whole weeks. Marvel saw it and than changed their plans for their big anouncement (check yt for the videos) and added Cap Marvel last minute. Thats how DC works not Marvel and you know it. #teamcolden |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 3, 2017 17:40:23 GMT
Just an FYI, the WW movie was actually announced before Marvel announced Captain Marvel.Correct by two whole weeks. Marvel saw it and than changed their plans for their big anouncement (check yt for the videos) and added Cap Marvel last minute. Thats how DC works not Marvel and you know it. #teamcolden I never claimed that the only reason CM was greenlit was because of WW. I was merely pointing out to the OP that arguing that WW only got greenlit because of CM is incorrect. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 17:42:56 GMT
Correct by two whole weeks. Marvel saw it and than changed their plans for their big anouncement (check yt for the videos) and added Cap Marvel last minute. Thats how DC works not Marvel and you know it. #teamcolden I never claimed that the only reason CM was greenlit was because of WW. I was merely pointing out to the OP that arguing that WW only got greenlit because of CM is incorrect. Yes he is incorrect. WW was 20 years in the making before CM was anounced. #teamcolden |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 3, 2017 19:13:35 GMT
Even the current WW film had problems with the lead actress that required some careful maneuvering:
Most scenes with the protagonist in them are "Gadot speaks a very simple line, followed by actor X going on and on, Gadot gets another rote line in, followed by more exposition from another actor." You've got Trevor hamming it up, Etta hamming it up, those poor Amazons forced to use Gadot's accent, Ares' monologuing, Hippolyta narrating the opening and giving all the early exposition, even the Multiethnic Sidekick Squad is very chatty in trying to fill up time so Gadot doesn't have to talk. Gadot is reduced to walking about, occasionally flatly delivering a single line of response while everyone else carefully explains what's happening. Then when action scenes happen she's either a video game character or a stuntwoman.
Gal Gadot is actually doing very, very little acting in the Wonder Woman movie, it's a great illusion of a performance.
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 3, 2017 19:58:37 GMT
Why did they finally pull the trigger in 2015? Marvel officially announced their plans for a Captain Marvel movie in 2014. Coincidence? It’s about as “coincidental” as all the plot similarities to Captain American: The First Avenger. WB announced a Wonder Woman movie in October 2014: DC Announces 10 New Superhero Films in Next Six Years, Including Wonder WomanMCU announced a Captain Marvel movie 2 weeks later: Marvel Announces Eight New Movies"Just two weeks after Warner Bros. and DC Comics revealed their slate of superhero movies for the rest of the decade"
Coincidence? Unlikely. MCU hates female superheroes, which is why MCU hasn't made a female-led superhero movie for a decade. And MCU would've never made a Captain Marvel movie or any other female-led movie if WB hadn't announced a Wonder Woman movie first. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 3, 2017 20:00:09 GMT
Why did they finally pull the trigger in 2015? Marvel officially announced their plans for a Captain Marvel movie in 2014. Coincidence? It’s about as “coincidental” as all the plot similarities to Captain American: The First Avenger. We don't, you just flip out whenever any of us question DC.
DC never would've considered WW if it weren't for the MCU.
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 3, 2017 20:01:37 GMT
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 3, 2017 20:03:07 GMT
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 3, 2017 20:07:04 GMT
Just an FYI, the WW movie was actually announced before Marvel announced Captain Marvel.Correct by two whole weeks. Marvel saw it and than changed their plans for their big anouncement (check yt for the videos) and added Cap Marvel last minute. That's correct. I've created many presentations slide decks for work and I've made updates to the slides as late as half an hour before the scheduled presentation. Its very easy to add a slide into a presentation and doesn't take very long at all. You can even have the new slide use the same format as all the other slides so nobody can tell that the new slide was added at the last minute. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 3, 2017 20:09:39 GMT
We don't, you just flip out whenever any of us question DC.
DC never would've considered WW if it weren't for the MCU.
It's the opposite. MCU hates female superheroes and didn't make a female-led movie for a decade and wouldn't have announced a Captain Marvel movie or any other female-led superhero movie if WB hadn't announced a Wonder Woman movie first. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 3, 2017 20:10:44 GMT
We don't, you just flip out whenever any of us question DC.
DC never would've considered WW if it weren't for the MCU.
It's the opposite. MCU hates female superheroes and didn't make a female-led movie for a decade and wouldn't have announced a Captain Marvel movie or any other female-led superhero movie if WB hadn't announced a Wonder Woman movie first. Nope, they'd been wanting it for a while but Ike Perlmutter kept saying no. Once he was gone they went ahead with it.
DC has no such excuse.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 20:21:00 GMT
Facts are facts. WW was anounced first. But you are a complete idiot if you think CM was a reaction to that anouncement.
But who gives a fuck. WW was mediocre crap. CM will be awesome.
#teamcolden
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 3, 2017 20:30:30 GMT
Facts are facts. WW was anounced first. But you are a complete idiot if you think CM was a reaction to that anouncement. But who gives a fuck. WW was mediocre crap. CM will be awesome. #teamcolden MCU changed Cap 3 to Cap v IM after WB announced BvS. So it's just as likely that MCU added a Captain Marvel movie to their announcement after WB announced a Wonder Woman movie. Like I said before, it's very easy to add another slide to a presentation deck and doesn't take long at all and the new slide can even use the same format as all the other slides and even the slide numbers automatically get updated so nobody can tell that the new slide was added at the last minute. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 3, 2017 20:31:59 GMT
[MCU changed Cap 3 to Cap v IM after WB announced BvS. That's revisionist history. Nope, they'd wanted to do it for years but Perlmutter wouldn't let them. Whereas WW never would've been made if not for the MCU. |
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Post by damngumby on Dec 3, 2017 23:28:21 GMT
Just an FYI, the WW movie was actually announced before Marvel announced Captain Marvel.Wonder Woman movies had been “announced” many times before, and the studio never pulled the trigger. Warner Bros finally pulled the trigger (commited themselves to actual filming) after it became clear that Marvel intended to make a superhero movie with a female lead. Hell, A Cyborg movie was also “announced” along with Wonder Woman. Does anyone really believe a Cyborg movie is a lock to happen? |
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