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Post by scabab on Dec 4, 2017 7:17:53 GMT
There is something very realistic about it. No there isn't, that's just you pushing your negative agenda. This is a series of five movies, four of them being profitable. A series that has movies in both Pre and Post Production, has set a release date schedule out for upcoming movies and has signed on multiple actors and directors. This does not get rebooted because one movie, even a significant one like Justice League underperforms. That I'm the reason why these boards exist in the first place would be the main one. That aside, nothing I've said here has anything to do with my being a mod.
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Post by scabab on Dec 4, 2017 7:42:49 GMT
They reboot crappy "universe's" in far less time than that, after only ONE movie, and audiences are just fine with it. For example: Not a single one of those examples are Cinematic Universes, they're just small time individual movies. Rebooting the DCEU is obviously not the same as rebooting Tarzan,the Ape Man... It wouldn't be rebooting one movie, it would be rebooting the entire brand. Meaning they'd have to make a new Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash etc all over again. It's not mine, I didn't make it. They got good reviews, they weren't overwhelmingly positively glowing. If you actually look at the reviews on Rotten Tomatoes or the IMDB user scores, of the movies that are considered the weaker ones, most of them came early on. Four out of five movies prior to The Avengers got an 80% or less whereas every movie following Avengers Age of Ultron has received 82% or more. Point being, these movies have gotten better as they've gone. Something that could be they could make true for DC. And of course you're picking out what is the notable sole exception here, the only real significant character who they got wrong.
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Post by Lee on Dec 4, 2017 10:33:59 GMT
There's nothing realistic about it. Aquaman has been filmed, they spent the money on it and it's going to come out and be a part of the DCEU. They just scheduled the release date for Wonder Woman 2. That will obviously not be thrown away after the success of the first movie. There's now talk of some Harley Quinn movie. Matt Reeves has signed up for The Batman etc. There won't be any reboot. This thing is much too big and has too many people involved for them to reboot this because of the underperformance of just the one movie. Now it's probably realistic to say that it will heavily influence the DCEU. They won't be announcing a sequel anytime soon and there might be a change in the people in charge but there's no chance at all that they will shut this whole thing today and then start over from scratch just because Justice League will probably just about break even in the long run. There is something very realistic about it. If you can't acknowledge that, you're just living in a fantasy world and I didn't even bother to read anything after that.
I'm really starting to wonder what the qualifications were for being a mod.
To stopping people like you creating laughable and seenseless threads, because of pure boredom, and provoking other users.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 12:10:33 GMT
No. Losing in one area doesn't make a brand's name poisonous. As I have pointed out before, DC is winning in all other areas including the main area (comic books) having the biggest selling superheroes of all time followed by TV shows such as Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman being the most successful superhero TV shows of all time followed by video games having the most successful superhero video games of all time with the 'Arkham Franchise' followed by the most successful animated movies of all time. Once the new DC video game comes out expect for it to dominate the video game charts especially if it is 'Arkham Origins 2' or a sequel to 'Arkham Knight' 'cause the cold hard reality is as much as some people like to push the belief the movies are irrelevant to the company's success in the long run and name one movie by Image Comics, Dynamite Entertainment, Aspen, Action Lab, Zenescope Entertainment, Bubble Comics, IDW, Broadsword, Boundless Comics etc in the past decade that has been vital to the companies continuing - ohh that is right, they don't have any movies out yet they are continuing with multiple titles every month including some like the returning 'Witchblade' that has higher all time sales than the majority of DC and Marvel characters that have movies. You seem to be forgetting DC is a comic book company - not a movie company. They could drop all the movies tomorrow and continue which I wouldn't mind since neither the DCEU or MCU has ever made any movies on the same level as the comic books and that is 'cause the Hollywood writers simply aren't on the same level nor are they original. The only reason Marvel is even around and have an MCU today is 'cause of writers like Stan Lee.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 4, 2017 13:02:42 GMT
There is something very realistic about it. No there isn't, that's just you pushing your negative agenda. This is a series of five movies, four of them being profitable. A series that has movies in both Pre and Post Production, has set a release date schedule out for upcoming movies and has signed on multiple actors and directors. This does not get rebooted because one movie, even a significant one like Justice League underperforms. That I'm the reason why these boards exist in the first place would be the main one. That aside, nothing I've said here has anything to do with my being a mod. Yeah it's just me pushing an agenda, that's it, just me
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And nothing you've said has anything to do with you being a mod, it has to do with whether or not you want to have any respect. You can't even discuss the possibility of a reboot without acting like I'm being the unreasonable one. You think posting about the historic collapse of a film can only be done with evil intent. You're projecting. It's you buddy. You're assuming the worst, which a lot of people do with texts and thread posts, but in reality you're arguing that the old fantastic four series should keep going. If I was discussing that series failing, you wouldn't have a problem with it, but this series is failing and you blame me. Right buddy. If you want respect try being realistic.
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Post by sostie on Dec 4, 2017 13:21:48 GMT
the returning 'Witchblade' that has higher all time sales than the majority of DC and Marvel characters that have movies. I'm still struggling to find anything that really supports this. I know accurate sales figures are sketchy, but Comichron are the main resource for such things. In 1995 Witchblade #1 was #79 in the 100 best selling/distributed issues 1996 Witchblade #3 was #63 (there were a couple of higher placed Spawn/Withchblade issues...but Spawn was dominating at that time) 1997 Witchblade #18 was #72 (though Darkness #1 was #1) After that no issue of Witchblade has appeared in the annual Top 100 in any year, bar a few issues of Tomb Raider/Witchblade.(only about 6 issues of Witchblade including those above have made the annual Top 100) If I had time and was on my home computer I might be able to look at monthly figures but I doubt it will show Witchblade as such a big seller as claimed.
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Post by sostie on Dec 4, 2017 15:34:06 GMT
DC is not poisonous. DCEU has just mainly been a glitch from a company that has given some great films - Watchmen, RED, The Losers, Dark Knight trilogy, Burton Batman etc (and a few poor ones). I'm still waiting for a totally satisfying DCEU film, and am sure it'll happen one day. I just hope they don't just focus on DCEU and spread out and produce some other properties they own.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 4, 2017 15:38:02 GMT
DC is not poisonous. DCEU has just mainly been a glitch from a company that has given some great films - Watchmen, RED, The Losers, Dark Knight trilogy, Burton Batman etc (and a few poor ones). I'm still waiting for a totally satisfying DCEU film, and am sure it'll happen one day. I just hope they don't just focus on DCEU and spread out and produce some other properties they own. I would say it's a pretty common perception at this point that DC isn't as good, and mostly because Marvel is so obviously great.
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Post by scabab on Dec 4, 2017 17:48:22 GMT
It's you buddy. You're assuming the worst, which a lot of people do with texts and thread posts, but in reality you're arguing that the old fantastic four series should keep going. If I was discussing that series failing, you wouldn't have a problem with it, but this series is failing and you blame me. I've discussed it over the past couple of pages. Again this is also nothing like Fantastic Four either. That was just one property, the whole direction they went in was wrong and Fantastic Four 2 was unsuccessful. The DCEU is an entire brand. Just because Justice League underperformed doesn't mean they can't make successful movies out of Shazam, Aquaman, The Flash, Green Lantern, Batgirl and more. All of those movies can be good and successful like Wonder Woman. There's nothing that they can do by rebooting it that they can't already do starting from now.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 4, 2017 19:30:10 GMT
Well I saw you discussing it, but what they can do by rebooting is cut the anchor of everything they've done so far, and still make good films.You seem to be approaching this as though it's just one film failing and they can move on. But what happened is a public declaration that people are done with the DCEU. At some point you have to stop saying "it'll get better next time." We've been hearing that since green lantern, and 5 bad films later it definitely looks like you want to take The FF films, the Ghost Rider films, and Daredevil '03 and build on that.
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Post by scabab on Dec 4, 2017 20:25:23 GMT
Well I saw you discussing it, but what they can do by rebooting is cut the anchor of everything they've done so far, and still make good films.You seem to be approaching this as though it's just one film failing and they can move on. But what happened is a public declaration that people are done with the DCEU. At some point you have to stop saying "it'll get better next time." We've been hearing that since green lantern, and 5 bad films later it definitely looks like you want to take The FF films, the Ghost Rider films, and Daredevil '03 and build on that. There's no public declaration, that's nonsense talk. Batman vs Superman was considered a disappointment and so it's follow up, which also got poor reviews, underperformed just like many other sequels this year. Batman vs Superman didn't stop Wonder Woman from being hugely successful so why would Justice League stop Aquaman or The Flash from being successful? You mention Green Lantern, a non DCEU movie that was far worse and far less successful than any DCEU movie. So if they reboot it, what's to stop that from happening again? Whose to say it wouldn't just be worse the second time around? This series will continue for a very long time.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 4, 2017 20:45:02 GMT
Is The DC Brand Name Poisonous?
Well... that didn't take long. You're right back in the mess, eh Arch?! An MCU fanatic coming on to DC boards to talk shit about DC. Gotta love the guy!
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 4, 2017 21:48:31 GMT
Well I saw you discussing it, but what they can do by rebooting is cut the anchor of everything they've done so far, and still make good films.You seem to be approaching this as though it's just one film failing and they can move on. But what happened is a public declaration that people are done with the DCEU. At some point you have to stop saying "it'll get better next time." We've been hearing that since green lantern, and 5 bad films later it definitely looks like you want to take The FF films, the Ghost Rider films, and Daredevil '03 and build on that. There's no public declaration, that's nonsense talk. Batman vs Superman was considered a disappointment and so it's follow up, which also got poor reviews, underperformed just like many other sequels this year. Batman vs Superman didn't stop Wonder Woman from being hugely successful so why would Justice League stop Aquaman or The Flash from being successful? You mention Green Lantern, a non DCEU movie that was far worse and far less successful than any DCEU movie. So if they reboot it, what's to stop that from happening again? Whose to say it wouldn't just be worse the second time around? This series will continue for a very long time. None of this matters to the fact that a reboot is possible. This back and forth isn't going anywhere.
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Post by poelzig on Dec 5, 2017 0:27:45 GMT
Right back to the childish trolling, huh? After your humiliating melt down and promises to never come back, a low profile approach might have been wiser. You could have waited a few weeks before you came crawling back and posted sparsely for a while. Perhaps you could even take a shot at contributing something worthwhile or at least attempt to have a discussion. You had 2 weeks with nothing to do. Couldn't you at least add some nuances to your rabid hate filled fanatic act?
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Post by reelreviews2 on Dec 5, 2017 1:45:17 GMT
Ummm... wrong. The Incredible Hulk is part of a HUGE cinematic universe, and it was made only five years after Ang Lee's Hulk FAILED. They didn't insist on making dozens of crappy sequels and spinoff's to Ang Lee's crappy movie. They had common sense back then.
Ummm... wrong again. There are ALREADY numerous NEW versions of Superman, Batman, Flash, etc. being made WHILE the DCEU universe is going on. For example, the Flash on TV is an entirely different universe than the one on the big screen, and so is Superman in the Supergirl TV series. Not to mention all the direct to video Batman movies they're making, such as the Kevin Conroy Batman universe.
Not to mention there's no rule they have to make a "new" version of those characters. Jason Moama's crappy remake of Conan failed, so they are making a third version on Conan? Nope, they want to bring BACK Arnold Schwarzenegger to do the original version of the character. It would be fine with me if they replaced Snyder's abominations with classic versions of those characters like Michael Keaton in a Batman Beyond movie or Brandon Routh in a Superman set in the Christopher Reeve universe.
With Man of Steel, that's true. In the case of the sequels, the fanboys OWN those. Those followup films WOULDN'T have been made if the fanboys HADN'T loudly applauded Nolan/Snyder/Goyer's garbage "reboot" and begged WB for more. They gave you a steaming turd, you proudly embraced and accepted that turd, so now they've given you even bigger turds. These films are not possible without fanboys applauding Snyder's "vision" for these characters, so YOU own it.
Wrong yet again. Iron Man 1 is widely considered the best of the three. Iron Man 2 and 3 were a step down. Ditto with Thor and its sequel Thor 2. The Incredible Hulk never got a sequel. Of the originals, only Captain America had a sequel I thought was better than the first one. And that's true of MOST movies... very RARELY does a sequel ever surpass the first film in quality.
And still totally wrong. While I like Amy Adams in other movies like Arrival, her Lois Lane was cringeworthy. Their "reboot" managed to give us a Lois Lane LESS likeable than the one audiences HATED in Superman Returns. EPIC FAIL. The Synderverse version of Doomsday sucked as well. Laurence Fishburne (again, love him in other movies like The Matrix) was awkward in the role and phoned in his performance as Perry "Great Caesar's Ghost!" White, and has now departed the Synderverse. The non-existance Jimmy Olsen was a joke, too. Moama sucks as Rob Zombie's Aquaman and is nothing like the source material. Jared Leto sucks as Joker. Margot Robbie's "Harley Quinn" seems like a heroic addicted skank. Watch Batman: TAS if you want to see the REAL Harley Quinn, which is nothing like Robbie's version. Need I go on?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 8:58:02 GMT
the returning 'Witchblade' that has higher all time sales than the majority of DC and Marvel characters that have movies. I'm still struggling to find anything that really supports this. I know accurate sales figures are sketchy, but Comichron are the main resource for such things. In 1995 Witchblade #1 was #79 in the 100 best selling/distributed issues 1996 Witchblade #3 was #63 (there were a couple of higher placed Spawn/Withchblade issues...but Spawn was dominating at that time) 1997 Witchblade #18 was #72 (though Darkness #1 was #1) After that no issue of Witchblade has appeared in the annual Top 100 in any year, bar a few issues of Tomb Raider/Witchblade.(only about 6 issues of Witchblade including those above have made the annual Top 100) If I had time and was on my home computer I might be able to look at monthly figures but I doubt it will show Witchblade as such a big seller as claimed. To quote www.comicbookmovie.com/witchblade/witchblade-movie-announced-a4516www.wired.com/2008/05/witchblade-crea/WITCHBLADE SLICES INTO LIVE-ACTION au.ign.com/articles/2008/05/12/witchblade-slices-into-live-actionThese same figures are written in actual books and can be found on multiple websites on the internet and more recent graphic novels have 'Witchblade' with even higher worldwide sales. Let's not forgot 'Witchblade' was not only a successful series but spun off an entire universe of series like the Darkness, Aphrodite IX, The Magdalena, Artifacts, the Angelus, the Necromancer, IXth Generation, Ravine, Switch etc which is something very few series have been able to achieve. I remember how popular 'Witchblade' was here in Australia in the 90s and 00s and every comic book fan I know has read it or had heard of the series and thinks it should have a movie
Now I understand some males these days have deep issues over acknowledging anything with a female lead could be the slightest bit successful since it isn't about a man whether it is a female lead novel, comic book, movie or TV shows - I have seen a lot of men try and claim the 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' TV show and other popular TV shows with female leads were flops. Superhero movie fans of today are FAR more sexist than any of the comic book fans I grew up with and dated - they actually want more female lead comic book movies like Witchblade, Red Sonja, Hack/Slash, Fathom, Birds of Prey and Vampirella but having strong female characters on screen doesn't make them feel insecure. I have seen the sales for female lead comic book series and there are a number of series that have higher all time sales than male lead series that have had multiple movies that have never been given a single chance on the big screen 'cause of their gender or had countless movies in development that tossed to the side by Hollywood heads in favour of more male lead movies.
What it comes down to is Hollywood has gone out of its way to make the comic book movie genre male only and screwed over all the fans of female lead series by overlooking their sales and giving movie after movie to male lead series that aren't as deserving since they weren't half as successful. 'Witchblade' has higher all time sales than 'Iron Man' and how many movies have we seen him in? If it had a male lead it would have got heaps of movies out now but 'cause it has a female lead it is another story. A lot of female AND male comic book writers have spoken about Hollywood's hatred for strong female characters and unless they are made into secondary characters, love interests or sexual conquests for the male leads they are never given a chance. Until these series get the movies they deserve Hollywood is a joke.
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Post by sostie on Dec 5, 2017 9:57:54 GMT
Now I understand some males these days have deep issues over acknowledging anything with a female lead could be the slightest bit successful since it isn't about a man whether it is a female lead novel, comic book, movie or TV shows - I have seen a lot of men try and claim the 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' TV show and other popular TV shows with female leads were flops Am I included in those "some males" category. Because you are barking up the wrong tree. If it's a success I'll admit it. And I have no aversion to female led comic books...a cursory look through my collection would show that (I actually have EVERY issue, + variants of every Buffy Comic, Elektra, Vampirella, Black Widow etc etc. And on the subject of Buffy, I was a Senior Mod on a very popular Buffy forum...I have no problem with female led films/TV/comics). My doubt is not based on some biased view that a female comic won't sell...it's based on my experience of being a collector, buyer, and sometimes dealer of comics. Visiting comic shops on at least a weekly basis Witchblade was not a title I ever saw fly off the shelves and was only a title I noticed mostly in over stock/sale boxes and second-hand stores. It may well have been huge in Australia, but as we have touched on before, it seems the comics you and your friends are aware of are completely different to those I know. 100 000 000 seems a huge amount to me. Is it units sold or shipped? Does it include crossovers (Witchblade crossovers with Spawn and Tomb Raider were massive sellers, but probably due to both being huge at the time). Does it include associated titels? Does it include graphic novels and trades? What I was looking at was issues of Witchblade comic alone.
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Post by General Kenobi on Dec 5, 2017 17:56:12 GMT
No. DC as a brand is not poisonous. DC has some of the best known and most popular characters in comics. Something that Warner bros has done a poor job of cashing in on, with the exception of Wonder Woman. But that has to do with a week foundation, executive meddling, and being overlooked by a joyless hack who doesn't understand or even like these kind of superheroes. So they have made many misteps in an effort to catch up with Marvel.
If anything is poisonous it's the Snyderverse. Which I think will get a reboot since The Flash movie is based on Flashpoint. They can use that to erase every decision made by Snyder and the suits and give themselves a fresh start.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 6, 2017 0:25:58 GMT
If anything is poisonous it's the Snyderverse. Which I think will get a reboot since The Flash movie is based on Flashpoint. They can use that to erase every decision made by Snyder and the suits and give themselves a fresh start. If it happens, they'll probably just use it to recast Batman since Affleck is pussyfooting around.
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Now I understand some males these days have deep issues over acknowledging anything with a female lead could be the slightest bit successful since it isn't about a man whether it is a female lead novel, comic book, movie or TV shows - I have seen a lot of men try and claim the 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' TV show and other popular TV shows with female leads were flops Am I included in those "some males" category. Because you are barking up the wrong tree. If it's a success I'll admit it. And I have no aversion to female led comic books...a cursory look through my collection would show that (I actually have EVERY issue, + variants of every Buffy Comic, Elektra, Vampirella, Black Widow etc etc. And on the subject of Buffy, I was a Senior Mod on a very popular Buffy forum...I have no problem with female led films/TV/comics). My doubt is not based on some biased view that a female comic won't sell...it's based on my experience of being a collector, buyer, and sometimes dealer of comics. Visiting comic shops on at least a weekly basis Witchblade was not a title I ever saw fly off the shelves and was only a title I noticed mostly in over stock/sale boxes and second-hand stores. It may well have been huge in Australia, but as we have touched on before, it seems the comics you and your friends are aware of are completely different to those I know. 100 000 000 seems a huge amount to me. Is it units sold or shipped? Does it include crossovers (Witchblade crossovers with Spawn and Tomb Raider were massive sellers, but probably due to both being huge at the time). Does it include associated titels? Does it include graphic novels and trades? What I was looking at was issues of Witchblade comic alone. No. I am not saying you are one of them Sostie but there were a large number of them on the original IMDB boards who literally made it their day to day mission to target every single movie, show, comic book and novel that had a female lead, African American lead or LGBT lead and if it had a female lead it was evil feminists forcing it on them, if it had an African American lead it was the Black Lives Matter movement forcing a black show or them and if it had so much as one LGBT character it was the so called gay agenda trying to force their gayness on them. The original IMDB boards were full of some of the most sexist, racist, homophobic and vile bigots I come across and there were a lot of them on boards for comic book movies and TV shows and right before they closed the ‘Supergirl’ board turned into a gay bashing board and I quite often got abusive private messages for being openly about my sexuality. A number of these same males are always saying they wish there were more female comic book fans but they only want more of us if they think there is a chance of getting into our pants and being a female comic book fan comes with constant abuse for just existing.
The ‘Wonder Woman’, ‘Captain Marvel’ and ‘Dark Matter’ boards attracted a lot of sexists who hated movies and TV shows with female leads and when ‘Wonder Woman’ was first announced they were throwing tantrums over it and abusing anybody who wanted a ‘Wonder Woman’ movie or suggested the possibility of more female lead comic book movies with ridiculous claims feminists were trying to take over “their genre” and force female superheroes and girl power on them. They did the same on the ‘Captain Marvel’ board but not as much since ‘Wonder Woman’ was closer to being released and when they weren’t writing posts saying Wonder Woman was going to flop harder than Ghostbusters (2016) ‘cause nobody wanted female superhero movies, Wonder Woman would be the death of the DCEU, Wonder Woman was a Mary Sue or who were feminists going to blame after Wonder Woman flopped they were criticising Gal for her boobs not being big enough to play Wonder Woman or Brie Larsen for being too fat and ugly to play Captain Marvel. One specific member SpongeBob claimed 'Captain Marvel' was feminists forcing ugly women on them.
Anytime there was a female lead movie announced you would only need to have a quick look at the board for it on the IMDB boards and the exact same members were there complaining regardless of not even knowing what some of the movies were about and they still do it on the comment sections of articles about female lead movies and TV shows now and they identify themselves as members of groups like MRA, MGTOW and PUA and anytime somebody writes something like they are happy the movie is being made or are a fan they get attacked for it by them. It reminds me of the mentality on the Gender Studies section on Yahoo Answers which is full of sexist guys and if MGTOW and other groups want to truly go their own way like they claim nobody is stopping them but they randomly attack us online all the time for no reason and they do the exact same thing with any female lead form of entertainment to get attention. To them 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer', 'Charmed' and 'Sex and the City' ruined their lives.
On the subject of ‘Witchblade’ I think it matter of what countries it had its biggest sales in and I have read ‘Witchblade’ had a strong following in Europe and Japan and in Japan it had an animated series, manga and novel that were successful. Both Europe and Japan have some of the largest selling comic book series in the world and the biggest selling comic book series of all time is a German Disney Comics magazine and Japanese series like One Piece (430 million), ‘Dragon Ball (240 million)Naruto (220million), Golgo 13 (200 million) and Kochira Katsushika-Ku Kameari Kōen-Mae Hashutsujo (157 million) have all had a large amount of success in Japan. Red Sonja and other titles under Dynamite Entertainment like Vampirella, Eva - Daughter of Dracula, Jennifer Blood, Warlord of Mars and Dejah Thoris are all said to have their biggest sales in Europe and the same goes with . The first issue of the newest ‘Sheena: Queen of the Jungle’ series under Dynamite racked up over 100 000 sales in pre-orders earlier this year.
100 million is a large amount and what is so impressive about series like ‘Witchblade’ and ‘Spawn’ it wasn’t in the Golden or Silver Age of Comics they racked up these figures – it was in the 90s and 00s in only two decades they were able to outsell a lot of major superheroes that had been appearing in their own titles since 1940s and 1960s. Image Comics experienced a lot of success with a number of titles in the 90s and 00s in particular and are currently the third biggest selling comic book company in the world behind DC and Marvel and with Top Cow making its big comeback in 2018 we can expect to see more Top Cow titles returning. Top Cow is the one big comic book universe that is yet to hit the big screen and with Witchblade, Cyberforce, the Darkness, Sunstone, Aphrodite IX, The Magdalena, The Necromancer, Cyblade/Shi, Ravine, Death Vigil, The Angelus, Velocity, Artifacts, IXth Generation etc.
Stan Lee praised up ‘Witchblade’ in the back of one of the graphic novels by Ron Marz and called it the greatest comic book series he read that he didn’t create and Stjepan Sejic said Top Cow would give both DC and Marvel run for their money on screen. I would actually say Top Cow would stand a better chance than the DCEU of dethroning the MCU ‘cause DC and Marvel are too similar to one another so it is always going to look like one is copying the other whereas the Top Cow universe are completely different and present something we have never had on screen before but Marc doesn’t have Time Warner and Disney forking out all the dollars to make movies of his characters and can make more if one flops which is the one major advantage both have over other comic book companies.
‘Witchblade’s’ success lead to a lot of other female lead series being picked up such as ‘Fathom’ which was by one of the creators, Michael Turner who launched the title under Top Cow and moved it to his own comic book company, Aspen which is still releasing new series of 'Fathom' and 'Soulfire' and other titles today even though Michael Turner passed away. Many creators of female lead comic book series have said they owe a debt to it ‘cause ‘Witchblade’ turned the industry on its head in the 1990s and proved that female lead series could sell and there was a large market for them. Marc Silvestri (one of the creators and the owner of Top Cow) has said himself and other writers “simply did what the 2 major companies were failing to do which was capitalize on a market that wanted female lead series” which is why a lot of the biggest selling female lead series aren’t under DC or Marvel.
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