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Post by alittlebirdie on Mar 6, 2017 6:47:31 GMT
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I'm really sad about it. Maybe I'm old school, but I still like to buy DVDs. I like the art and physicality of holding it. How about you? Do you still watch DVDs, or is downloading the best anyway?
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Post by MCDemuth on Mar 6, 2017 6:59:48 GMT
When you saw the last "DVD Store"... Do you mean... a DVD only Store? or a DVD/Blu-Ray store?... And... Do you mean... a DVD/Blu-Ray only store? or a Multiple Product store that sells many things, including DVD/Blu-Rays, but will no longer carry DVD/Blu-Rays? I still see many Multiple Product stores here in Indiana, USA which still sells DVD/Blu-Rays. DVDs don't seem to be going to be going away anytime soon, and Blu-Rays will be around for a while longer after that. My internet connect is poor, so I can't stream or download movies. If there is something I want to watch, I just buy it. Then I can watch it when ever I want, and I don't have to worry about what the internet is doing. I also only have to pay for it once too! And yes, I like to physically see them sitting on a shelf in my home.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 6, 2017 7:28:25 GMT
in terms of buying... Bluray or nothing is the way i see it. DVD is just a lower quality version of Bluray and i figure with Bluray we are reasonably future proofed in terms of image quality to as i think the bigger leaps in image quality are largely gone once Bluray came along as going from VHS to DVD was a solid boost along with DVD to Bluray but after that i just can't see that kind of leap forward again. sure, as the TV's themselves advance i am sure they will improve a little here and there but i just can't imagine something being beyond bluray to the point you can see a gap like there is between DVD and Bluray. hence, bluray is reasonably future proofed in terms of image quality which is what's most important when watching a movie since it's a visual medium. but with that said... some movies i am not as concerned with having in HD and those regular DVD would be alright enough if the DVD's are cheap enough. but anything close to regular price i would just get the bluray.
but in general... "downloads" (i.e. properly made x264 encoded @ 720p (or 1080p) are the all around best quite easily. i go with 720p since file size is less and quality is the same on my 43" LG TV) from Bluray source can't be beat considering $0.00 and quality is as high as you can get short of having it on a actual bluray disc basically(even the difference between the two is minimal). plus, nowadays you can get brand new 2TB hard drives for $45 if you know where to look (only catch is they come with 1 year warranty instead of the more typical 2-3 years) and each of those can store roughly between 286-425 properly made 720p HD movies. those estimates are assuming 4.7GB-7GB 720p movies which should be a pretty close figure in terms of low end and high end that you can fit onto a 2TB hard drive. i did 4.7GB to 7GB simply because that's where the vast majority of properly encoded (i.e. Scene released) movies land between. sure, there are a bit smaller than 4.7GB and larger than 7GB but not many. so in other words it's quite likely my 286-425 figure is accurate simply because even at 286 movies this is assuming a average movie size of 7GB for 720p and in many cases they are smaller than that which means more movies. so i would say ball park 350 movies as sorta a middle figure between the two extremes.
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Post by poelzig on Mar 6, 2017 7:39:49 GMT
I have thousands of dvd's but I must admit I haven't bought one in a while. A friend gave me his Element box which has kodi built in when he upgraded to the newest box. The box is a lot like those old school mythical cable boxes with which you could watch every cable channel including pay per views and adult and premium without paying.
The Element box lets you stream EVERY TV show past and present and countless movies including stuff that's just been released in theaters. It's especially great if you're too lazy or not tech savvy enough to master illegal downloading and prefer to click on the tile of what you want to watch and start watching. It sounds too good to be true but it's real and it's all FREE.
I prefer to actually own and have a physical copy but sadly as times change we are sort of forced to as well. No more cool extra features like behind the scenes stuff or audio tracks with the directors and stars or any number of great documentary stuff that was included on many dvds. Granted a lot of that stuff was filler garbage but a lot of it was pretty damn awesome. Sadly you don't get any of that when you download or stream so it's yet one more thing the internet has killed.
I always watched every dvd I bought. I've noticed that there are lots of kids that love boasting about their billion bit hard drives they have filled with a million movies. When you ask how many they have watched they hem and haw because too those idiots it's all about the tech and bragging about how many they have not actually watching them.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Mar 6, 2017 7:48:40 GMT
I buy DVD, VHS and Blu Ray. It doesnt really matter to me. I just like a physical copy of the film.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 10:04:24 GMT
I still buy and watches DVD
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Post by louise on Mar 6, 2017 10:08:26 GMT
Shows how old i am - i still tend to think of HMV as a record shop rather than a dvd shop. But as far as i know the remaining UK branches are staying open for the time being.
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Post by koskiewicz on Mar 6, 2017 16:27:22 GMT
I have a second hand store near me that sells used DVDs for $1. The buyer can examine the DVD to see if it is in VG condition. As an example, I recently purchased a pristine copy of Avatar for $1.
This should give people an idea of the mark up on new releases. I bough dozens of DVDs at this store.
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Post by kingkoopa on Mar 7, 2017 3:46:14 GMT
in terms of buying... Bluray or nothing is the way i see it. DVD is just a lower quality version of Bluray and i figure with Bluray we are reasonably future proofed in terms of image quality to as i think the bigger leaps in image quality are largely gone once Bluray came along as going from VHS to DVD was a solid boost along with DVD to Bluray but after that i just can't see that kind of leap forward again. sure, as the TV's themselves advance i am sure they will improve a little here and there but i just can't imagine something being beyond bluray to the point you can see a gap like there is between DVD and Bluray. hence, bluray is reasonably future proofed in terms of image quality which is what's most important when watching a movie since it's a visual medium. but with that said... some movies i am not as concerned with having in HD and those regular DVD would be alright enough if the DVD's are cheap enough. but anything close to regular price i would just get the bluray. but in general... "downloads" (i.e. properly made x264 encoded @ 720p (or 1080p) are the all around best quite easily. i go with 720p since file size is less and quality is the same on my 43" LG TV) from Bluray source can't be beat considering $0.00 and quality is as high as you can get short of having it on a actual bluray disc basically(even the difference between the two is minimal). plus, nowadays you can get brand new 2TB hard drives for $45 if you know where to look (only catch is they come with 1 year warranty instead of the more typical 2-3 years) and each of those can store roughly between 286-425 properly made 720p HD movies. those estimates are assuming 4.7GB-7GB 720p movies which should be a pretty close figure in terms of low end and high end that you can fit onto a 2TB hard drive. i did 4.7GB to 7GB simply because that's where the vast majority of properly encoded (i.e. Scene released) movies land between. sure, there are a bit smaller than 4.7GB and larger than 7GB but not many. so in other words it's quite likely my 286-425 figure is accurate simply because even at 286 movies this is assuming a average movie size of 7GB for 720p and in many cases they are smaller than that which means more movies. so i would say ball park 350 movies as sorta a middle figure between the two extremes. Very interesting post, thanks for sharing this info. Cheers!
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Post by ck100 on Mar 7, 2017 4:03:27 GMT
I still buy DVD and Blu-ray. I like having a physical copy in my hands. I'm always on the lookout for cheap discs and sales.
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Post by poelzig on Mar 7, 2017 4:14:37 GMT
I still buy DVD and Blu-ray. I like having a physical copy in my hands. I'm always on the lookout for cheap discs and sales. So would you say you enjoy having a disc in your hand?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 4:16:00 GMT
but in general... "downloads" (i.e. properly made x264 encoded @ 720p (or 1080p) are the all around best quite easily. i go with 720p since file size is less and quality is the same on my 43" LG TV) from Bluray source can't be beat considering $0.00 and quality is as high as you can get short of having it on a actual bluray disc basically(even the difference between the two is minimal). plus, nowadays you can get brand new 2TB hard drives for $45 if you know where to look (only catch is they come with 1 year warranty instead of the more typical 2-3 years) and each of those can store roughly between 286-425 properly made 720p HD movies. those estimates are assuming 4.7GB-7GB 720p movies which should be a pretty close figure in terms of low end and high end that you can fit onto a 2TB hard drive. i did 4.7GB to 7GB simply because that's where the vast majority of properly encoded (i.e. Scene released) movies land between. sure, there are a bit smaller than 4.7GB and larger than 7GB but not many. so in other words it's quite likely my 286-425 figure is accurate simply because even at 286 movies this is assuming a average movie size of 7GB for 720p and in many cases they are smaller than that which means more movies. so i would say ball park 350 movies as sorta a middle figure between the two extremes. The downside to these is they almost never have 5.1 audio tracks. In fact, the only files I've ever downloaded with 5.1 tracks are Harmy's de-specialized Star Wars movies. Even the Maple Films fan edit of The Hobbit doesn't have a 5.1 track on their mp4 version, and it's a 10GB file! Also, with the advent of almost every premium movie channel now offering legitimate easy streaming, I don't feel right downloading stuff for free. I mean, it's always wrong, but it was easier to justify to myself when there was no practical legitimate way to watch what I wanted to watch. I don't torrent or download free stuff anymore unless it's a fan edit (of which I own the legitimate film) or it's something that isn't currently released.
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Post by ck100 on Mar 7, 2017 4:22:43 GMT
I still buy DVD and Blu-ray. I like having a physical copy in my hands. I'm always on the lookout for cheap discs and sales. So would you say you enjoy having a disc in your hand? If I like a movie and want to buy it on DVD/Blu-ray, then I will do so. The picture/sound of the disc is always better than the online download.
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Post by ashverses on Mar 7, 2017 4:23:38 GMT
I might be the only one that prefers downloading or streaming movies. I was never the one to like clutter around. I end up throwing the jewel cases away of any of the DVD/bluray I buy (less than a half dozen now). Clutter is a thing for me I guess.
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Post by Blue on Mar 7, 2017 4:23:45 GMT
At one point, VHS was the norm and that died out. Not surprised that DVD is slowly phasing out too.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 7, 2017 6:44:26 GMT
Jan El Señor if it's a Scene release most should have 5.1 as i see DTS audio which should be 5.1 as that's what they are when i convert a typical .dts audio track for use on a SD file when i make a occasional SD x264 video (using StaxRip) as i down-convert it to typical stereo. so 5.1 back to 2 channels. but... regardless of 5.1 or not, i would imagine most people don't have super fancy sound setups when watching movies as i would imagine the vast majority just have the typical TV speakers. so basically audio is not much of a issue especially considering image quality will be much more noticeable then audio in general. Scene released movies tend to be in the .mkv container. i never been a fan of streaming in general. downloads are definitely preferred as you ain't got to worry about any potential internet connection issues because if it's on your hard drive and the file is good then you can guarantee there will be no problems short of a power outage (or hard drive crash) etc. regardless of $$$... that stuff is hard to beat for convenience sake alone and not to mention the quality is as good as you can get short of having the actual bluray disc. ashverses wait a sec, you actually throw away the case the DVD/Bluray comes in? that's a bad idea as you have no way to keep the discs from getting scratches that way. i don't know about everyone else but any discs i have, especially original discs, tend to stay in good condition as i don't abuse my originals. Blue i don't expect DVD to die off like VHS did, at least not as quickly. because look at it this way... damn near everyone has a DVD player but when it comes to Bluray this is not as standardized, at least not yet. i mean it's the standard for HD video but it's not extremely common for one to have like DVD is where just about every household has a DVD player at the least. plus, i suspect some of the reason DVD is holding on longer is it's a disc over tape as things are more convenient that way since you don't have to rewind etc. but with DVD to Blyray it's the same outside of the image quality increase, pretty much. i know the audio is 'supposedly' better but it's kind of difficult to improve already solid sound since after a certain point we can't hear the difference anyways and visual things tend to be more noticeable as for example... i can notice the difference in image quality from DVD to Bluray but i doubt i would notice the audio quality difference from DVD to Bluray. also, if DVD's are slowly going out i would not be surprised if it's because of services like Netflix as people are probably dumping physical media but personally i can't see doing that especially if you start buying movies in which case you might as well get the highest quality available which is bluray.
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Post by Blue on Mar 7, 2017 6:55:07 GMT
Not everyone owns a Blu Ray player per se, but more and more younger people are owning devices that are compatible with Blu Ray like video game consoles and smart TVs.
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Post by ashverses on Mar 7, 2017 12:36:16 GMT
I do use a DVD portfolio to store all the dvds I own.
Another benefit to downloading movies, for those of you who have kids, is less scratched, greasy broken discs. Kids cannot figure out how to take care of physical DVDs, but they sure the hell can figure out how to stream stuff from even the most complicated media box without wrecking anything.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 14:13:31 GMT
Scene released movies tend to be in the .mkv container. I hate .mkv.
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Post by sariz on Mar 7, 2017 19:24:26 GMT
Here In my Country we have less movie/cds stores every day as well We still have a few stores of a famous chain called Mix Up but they are all closing. It seems to be that sadly the future is digital and like you im gonna miss physical copies, i just dont feelbright buying a file which is essentially a digital copy.
Im fine with streaming services and renting films on itunes but buying digital films doesnt feel good. I still have have my dvds and some blue rays but i guess as internet gets faster physical copies will be obsolete.
Im definitley gonna miss them.
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