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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 9, 2017 22:48:14 GMT
Why would he go after their families? Hawkeye has some but even the other Avengers weren't aware of that at first The only loved one to even go after would be Pepper Potts and I don't even think their relationship was public anyway. So Zemo, who apparently had psychic powers since he knew: 1. Where to find the only copy of a videotape from 25 years ago that nobody even knew existed 2. That Falcon would tell Iron Man where Cap and Bucky were going after they hijacked the quinjet 3. That Iron Man would show up at that remote base in Siberia at the same time as Cap and Bucky even though Cap and Bucky had a head start of several hours didn't know that Hawkeye had children or that Tony Stark was banging his secretary? That makes no sense at all. Also, regardless of how many of them had families and loved ones, if Zemo's plan was to break up the team, then he should've come up with a better and less convoluted scheme than the scheme that he came up with, which is by far definitely the most convoluted and senseless scheme ever in a CBM. Just this week, we saw on the Arrow TV show Cayden James come up with a much better, effective, practical, and non-convoluted plan to break up Team Arrow that was much better than the convoluted and senseless scheme that Zemo had in Civil War.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 9, 2017 22:59:22 GMT
So Zemo, who apparently had psychic powers since he knew: 1. Where to find the only copy of a videotape from 25 years ago that nobody even knew existed t was in the Hydra files Black Widow released. He had the time and obsession to decode everything. He didn't plan on them showing up, that was just good luck. He just wanted the tape to send to Stark. Again, good luck. His quarrel was with the Avengers, not their families. He wanted THEM to destroy each other. He did a good job.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Dec 9, 2017 23:00:53 GMT
Why would he go after their families? Hawkeye has some but even the other Avengers weren't aware of that at first The only loved one to even go after would be Pepper Potts and I don't even think their relationship was public anyway. So Zemo, who apparently had psychic powers since he knew: 1. Where to find the only copy of a videotape from 25 years ago that nobody even knew existed 2. That Falcon would tell Iron Man where Cap and Bucky were going after they hijacked the quinjet 3. That Iron Man would show up at that remote base in Siberia at the same time as Cap and Bucky even though Cap and Bucky had a head start of several hours didn't know that Hawkeye had children or that Tony Stark was banging his secretary? That makes no sense at all. Also, regardless of how many of them had families and loved ones, if Zemo's plan was to break up the team, then he should've come up with a better and less convoluted scheme than the scheme that he came up with, which is by far definitely the most convoluted and senseless scheme ever in a CBM. Just this week, we saw on the Arrow TV show Cayden James come up with a much better, effective, practical, and non-convoluted plan to break up Team Arrow that was much better than the convoluted and senseless scheme that Zemo had in Civil War. RottenTomatoes for Civil War - 91% RottenTomatoes for BvS - 27% That should tell you the general consensus says Civil War is better
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 9, 2017 23:15:51 GMT
t was in the Hydra files Black Widow released. He had the time and obsession to decode everything. And the CIA, with many analysts and decoders on their payroll, didn't have the time or obsession to decode a few enemy files? Like I said, made no sense at all. He didn't plan on them showing up, that was just good luck.[/quote] So he did't have much of a plan at all. Just a convoluted scheme that made no sense at all and depended completely on contrived writing. He just wanted the tape to send to Stark. And yet, he never sent a copy of the tape to Stark or even simply uploaded the video to the Internet. Has Zemo been living in a cave for 25 years and didn't know that there's this thing called the Internet, where anyone can upload a video to it? So again, not much of a plan at all. Just a convoluted scheme that made no sense at all and depended completely on contrived writing.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Dec 9, 2017 23:19:57 GMT
t was in the Hydra files Black Widow released. He had the time and obsession to decode everything. And the CIA, with many analysts and decoders on their payroll, didn't have the time or obsession to decode a few enemy files? Like I said, made no sense at all. He didn't plan on them showing up, that was just good luck. So he did't have much of a plan at all. Just a convoluted scheme that made no sense at all and depended completely on contrived writing. He just wanted the tape to send to Stark. And yet, he never sent a copy of the tape to Stark or even simply uploaded the video to the Internet. Has Zemo been living in a cave for 25 years and didn't know that there's this thing called the Internet, where anyone can upload a video to it? So again, not much of a plan at all. Just a convoluted scheme that made no sense at all and depended completely on contrived writing.[/quote] Nothing is as convoluted and ridiculous as the plot of BvS.
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 9, 2017 23:22:52 GMT
And the CIA, with many analysts and decoders on their payroll, didn't have the time or obsession to decode a few enemy files? Like I said, made no sense at all. He didn't plan on them showing up, that was just good luck. So he did't have much of a plan at all. Just a convoluted scheme that made no sense at all and depended completely on contrived writing. He just wanted the tape to send to Stark. And yet, he never sent a copy of the tape to Stark or even simply uploaded the video to the Internet. Has Zemo been living in a cave for 25 years and didn't know that there's this thing called the Internet, where anyone can upload a video to it? So again, not much of a plan at all. Just a convoluted scheme that made no sense at all and depended completely on contrived writing.
Nothing is as convoluted and ridiculous as the plot of BvS.
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Civil War was much more convoluted and ridiculous.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 9, 2017 23:25:18 GMT
And the CIA, with many analysts and decoders on their payroll, didn't have the time or obsession to decode a few enemy files? With the Hydra purge going on and all the other stuff happening, no. Plus, Hydra would've made sure that American Intelligence wouldn't be able to do it. The plan was to get the tape and release it. Good luck meant he got that done faster. And yet, he never sent a copy of the tape to Stark or even simply uploaded the video to the Internet. He only just found the tape when the others arrived. You want contrived writing, look at TDK Joker.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 9, 2017 23:25:38 GMT
So he did't have much of a plan at all. Just a convoluted scheme that made no sense at all and depended completely on contrived writing. And yet, he never sent a copy of the tape to Stark or even simply uploaded the video to the Internet. Has Zemo been living in a cave for 25 years and didn't know that there's this thing called the Internet, where anyone can upload a video to it? So again, not much of a plan at all. Just a convoluted scheme that made no sense at all and depended completely on contrived writing.
Nothing is as convoluted and ridiculous as the plot of BvS.
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Civil War was much more convoluted and ridiculous.
[/quote] Dark Knight was worse with Joker.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Dec 10, 2017 0:20:01 GMT
So he did't have much of a plan at all. Just a convoluted scheme that made no sense at all and depended completely on contrived writing. And yet, he never sent a copy of the tape to Stark or even simply uploaded the video to the Internet. Has Zemo been living in a cave for 25 years and didn't know that there's this thing called the Internet, where anyone can upload a video to it? So again, not much of a plan at all. Just a convoluted scheme that made no sense at all and depended completely on contrived writing.
Nothing is as convoluted and ridiculous as the plot of BvS.
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Civil War was much more convoluted and ridiculous.
[/quote] Civil War is convoluted, yes, but it works because they executed it well. BvS is just a convoluted mess where most of their plot points go nowhere. Worst of all, JL didn't even pay off some of their plot points. Its a mess. I would explain to you why, but I'll probably just hurt your feelings there, snowflake, so I won't bother with you
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 1:16:01 GMT
That's what I've been explaining to you. Most other human beings aren't warlords and terrorists who hold reporters hostage. So the guy will never be able to hold another reporter hostage again, thanks to Superman? Well, that's certainly good news. Neither were the walls that Strucker bounced off of after Cap kicked his shield (made of the strongest metal on Earth and strong enough to stop Thor's hammer) into Strucker with such violent force that it sent Strucker flying into that wall before his lifeless body fell to the ground. And if the guy moves his hand at the last second, it could be Lois who gets hit with the heat vision or freeze breath. So you're the Spelling Police on these boards. How much is the fine these days for Incorrect Spelling? You took the start of my response and twisted my words - Nice try, but its a dud. Try to pick part the whole sentence or paragraph instead of fragments, trust me you'll gain more credibility. We're not talking about the guy being good or bad, we're talking about his wounds from a realistic point of view, since he's, y'know, human. In real life he'd either die or be wounded so bad he'd eventually kick the bucket sooner than later because there is no way he'd be able to recover on his own or with medical aid. We're not particularly happy with either because Superman does not typically approach situations like that. Superman has super speed and his powers are fast-acting, the guy could've been easily subdued. It's nice to hear that you are all in favor with Superman killing people or wounding them to the point where death is the only way out rather than prison but if Captain America punches a guy or uses his shield that knocks a person out he is a monster of the worst kind. And you say you're not biased. Cap didn't kill Strucker, he knocked him out - Ultron killed him. By now you SHOULD know how to pronounce Joss Whedon correctly, you talk about DC and Marvel on a regular basis. Its amazing how quickly a post that's critical of the DCEU causes DC-Fan to have a meltdown.
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Post by scabab on Dec 10, 2017 3:24:10 GMT
Its amazing how quickly a post that's critical of the DCEU causes DC-Fan to have a meltdown. That happens the other way around too though. The prime example being me saying that Darth Vader and Hans Gruber are better than the MCU villains which we all know is true if we rid ourselves of bias.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 3:27:29 GMT
Its amazing how quickly a post that's critical of the DCEU causes DC-Fan to have a meltdown. That happens the other way around too though. The prime example being me saying that Darth Vader and Hans Gruber are better than the MCU villains which we all know is true if we rid ourselves of bias. Wrong yet again. And you are in no position to talk about bias, since you're full of the stuff. And its always against the MCU.
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 10, 2017 3:29:47 GMT
That happens the other way around too though. The prime example being me saying that Darth Vader and Hans Gruber are better than the MCU villains which we all know is true if we rid ourselves of bias. Wrong yet again. And you are in no position to talk about bias, since you're full of the stuff. And its always against the MCU. Speaking of meltdown, it looks like you're having one now at the mere mention of the fact that Darth Vader and Hans Gruber are better than all MCU villains. LOL!!!
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Post by scabab on Dec 10, 2017 3:31:48 GMT
That happens the other way around too though. The prime example being me saying that Darth Vader and Hans Gruber are better than the MCU villains which we all know is true if we rid ourselves of bias. Wrong yet again. And you are in no position to talk about bias, since you're full of the stuff. And its always against the MCU. Well I'm not getting into it all again but we all know that the likes of Darth Vader, Hans Gruber and I also said the Terminator are far and away better than any MCU villain with the exception of Loki. Anyone who says otherwise is just ludicrously biased. It's like saying Falcon or Hawkeye are as good of a hero as Indiana Jones, James Bond or Rocky Balboa.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 3:33:18 GMT
Wrong yet again. And you are in no position to talk about bias, since you're full of the stuff. And its always against the MCU. Well I'm not getting into it all again but we all know that the likes of Darth Vader, Hans Gruber and I also said the Terminator are far and away better than any MCU villain with the exception of Loki. Anyone who says otherwise is just ludicrously biased. It's like saying Falcon or Hawkeye are as good of a hero as Indiana Jones, James Bond or Rocky Balboa. Nice opinion myopia you got there. And actually, Falcon and Hawkeye are as good a heroes as Jones, Bond, and Balboa.
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Post by scabab on Dec 10, 2017 3:59:05 GMT
And actually, Falcon and Hawkeye are as good a heroes as Jones, Bond, and Balboa.
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