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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 7, 2017 21:32:01 GMT
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Post by scabab on Dec 7, 2017 21:53:41 GMT
Yeah, while I would like to see X-men be a part of the MCU, I'd be concerned it would just be another formulaic Marvel movie instead of something that's quite a bit different with the X-men movies we get now.
I'm sure it would be good either way but I wouldn't want it to be the usual simplified movie with the non stop quips and the poor villain especially when there's a lot of good X-men villains.
But I'd still take that anyway because I don't think there's much more they can do with X-men at this point except for the whole space storyline.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 7, 2017 21:57:47 GMT
Yeah, while I would like to see X-men be a part of the MCU, I'd be concerned it would just be another formulaic Marvel movie instead of something that's quite a bit different with the X-men movies we get now. I'm sure it would be good either way but I wouldn't want it to be the usual simplified movie with the non stop quips and the poor villain especially when there's a lot of good X-men villains. But I'd still take that anyway because I don't think there's much more they can do with X-men at this point except for the whole space storyline. Same. Feige's familiar with them so we'll see.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 7, 2017 21:59:43 GMT
Is X-Men Joining the Marvel Universe Really a Good Idea?
If done right. And so far Marvel has done well.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 7, 2017 22:01:44 GMT
Well, The Gifted is just a Heroes knock-off, Logan was a one-shot thing since Jackman is done and Legion was good for being seen as an exploration of mental illness with most not even realizing it was based on a comic.
So no real loss.
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Post by charzhino on Dec 7, 2017 22:51:34 GMT
No its a terrible idea.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 7, 2017 23:04:23 GMT
Because the Mutants won't be the center of the Universe anymore and not special little snowflakes?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 7, 2017 23:14:41 GMT
Because the Mutants won't be the center of the Universe anymore and not special little snowflakes? I think Fox X-Men fans should celebrate the 20 years of excellent X films they received with some type of special edition blu-ray set. They can thrill to the X-Men's most spine-tingling cinematic moments over and over again. If the films were so good to begin with, they should have infinite replay value. Wasn't 20 years enough? Why be greedy? it's time for other X-Men fans who waited patiently -- for two whole decades -- to see a different take on the characters. I raise my glass to the Fox X-Men Cinematic Universe and bid it and their fans a fond farewell. And, if it hurts to see the new X-Men under new stewardship, ...look away, look away, look away... Hee hee hee...
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 9, 2017 1:47:05 GMT
Well, The Gifted is just a Heroes knock-off, Logan was a one-shot thing since Jackman is done and Legion was good for being seen as an exploration of mental illness with most not even realizing it was based on a comic. So no real loss. Those shows are by Marvel. They’ll be connected through the multiverse.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 9, 2017 2:13:01 GMT
Well, The Gifted is just a Heroes knock-off, Logan was a one-shot thing since Jackman is done and Legion was good for being seen as an exploration of mental illness with most not even realizing it was based on a comic. So no real loss. Those shows are by Marvel. They’ll be connected through the multiverse. They aren't connecting anything that they didn't design, and I'm not convinced they're using a multiverse at all. What's they've established so far is different layers of reality, not alternate realities.
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Post by TheHiawatha on Dec 9, 2017 2:32:29 GMT
Yeah, while I would like to see X-men be a part of the MCU, I'd be concerned it would just be another formulaic Marvel movie instead of something that's quite a bit different with the X-men movies we get now. I'm sure it would be good either way but I wouldn't want it to be the usual simplified movie with the non stop quips and the poor villain especially when there's a lot of good X-men villains. But I'd still take that anyway because I don't think there's much more they can do with X-men at this point except for the whole space storyline. Partly agree and partly disagree. "Logan" was indeed a fantastic movie, and I'd argue it's the second-best superhero film ever made only to "The Dark Knight." I don't know if the MCU could replicate such a film, since "Logan" was much more filmmaker-driven than producer-driven. And yes, I agree that at this point, there's really little room left for them to go with the story. Wolverine, old Professor X, and old Magneto are all dead, and Jackman and Stewart have moved on. And the new cast has not been anywhere near as well-received as the old cast. When you think about it, Deadpool is pretty much all they have left as a superstar character. Taking them and putting them into the MCU is probably the only fresh take they could do with the story. That said, villains-wise, does X-Men really have any standouts besides Magneto? Because the way I see it, it sure seems like the only villain from the franchise that both critics and fans unanimously praise is Magneto. And in terms of quality, the MCU clearly has been much more consistent. The X-Men have been all over the place, from fantastic to good to meh to bad.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 9, 2017 3:32:23 GMT
Those shows are by Marvel. They’ll be connected through the multiverse. They aren't connecting anything that they didn't design, and I'm not convinced they're using a multiverse at all. What's they've established so far is different layers of reality, not alternate realities. Except they did help design it. Jeph Loeb was producer on them. And the DC shows play with the multiverse, why not Marvel.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Dec 9, 2017 3:35:47 GMT
Yeah, while I would like to see X-men be a part of the MCU, I'd be concerned it would just be another formulaic Marvel movie instead of something that's quite a bit different with the X-men movies we get now. I'm sure it would be good either way but I wouldn't want it to be the usual simplified movie with the non stop quips and the poor villain especially when there's a lot of good X-men villains. But I'd still take that anyway because I don't think there's much more they can do with X-men at this point except for the whole space storyline. Partly agree and partly disagree. "Logan" was indeed a fantastic movie, and I'd argue it's the second-best superhero film ever made only to "The Dark Knight." I don't know if the MCU could replicate such a film, since "Logan" was much more filmmaker-driven than producer-driven. And yes, I agree that at this point, there's really little room left for them to go with the story. Wolverine, old Professor X, and old Magneto are all dead, and Jackman and Stewart have moved on. And the new cast has not been anywhere near as well-received as the old cast. When you think about it, Deadpool is pretty much all they have left as a superstar character. Taking them and putting them into the MCU is probably the only fresh take they could do with the story. That said, villains-wise, does X-Men really have any standouts besides Magneto? Because the way I see it, it sure seems like the only villain from the franchise that both critics and fans unanimously praise is Magneto. And in terms of quality, the MCU clearly has been much more consistent. The X-Men have been all over the place, from fantastic to good to meh to bad. Stewart is not really gone.
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Post by poelzig on Dec 9, 2017 3:39:11 GMT
Well, The Gifted is just a Heroes knock-off, Logan was a one-shot thing since Jackman is done and Legion was good for being seen as an exploration of mental illness with most not even realizing it was based on a comic. So no real loss. Logan and Legion are both vastly superior to the majority of mcu TV and movies.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 9, 2017 4:50:08 GMT
They aren't connecting anything that they didn't design, and I'm not convinced they're using a multiverse at all. What's they've established so far is different layers of reality, not alternate realities. Except they did help design it. Jeph Loeb was producer on them. And the DC shows play with the multiverse, why not Marvel. A: . It's not a part of their plan and they aren't using whatever doom movie is being produced. It's not even a valid discussion. It's not happening.
And B: I don't give a shit what DC does
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 9, 2017 5:09:00 GMT
Well, The Gifted is just a Heroes knock-off, Logan was a one-shot thing since Jackman is done and Legion was good for being seen as an exploration of mental illness with most not even realizing it was based on a comic. So no real loss. Logan and Legion are both vastly superior to the majority of mcu TV and movies. Logan only got it's reception from being Jackman's Swan Song and because they killed him and Xavier, meaning it was a one-shot deal. Legion is the typical pretentious nonsense, ashamed of its origins. We won't be worse off without it.
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Post by darkpast on Dec 9, 2017 5:19:29 GMT
i think they should keep it separate, but have occasional crossovers
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 9, 2017 5:53:50 GMT
It's fine. Spider-Man will need some ensemble work once Stark & Rogers are moved on.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 9, 2017 6:03:14 GMT
i think they should keep it separate, but have occasional crossovers Can I ask what you mean by that. Do they exist in the same world like me and my parents but we only have dinner together twice a month and other than that we're separate. Or do you mean I occasionally walk through my closet into Narnia to crossover with people in some completely different reality?
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Post by poelzig on Dec 9, 2017 6:05:54 GMT
Logan and Legion are both vastly superior to the majority of mcu TV and movies. Logan only got it's reception from being Jackman's Swan Song and because they killed him and Xavier, meaning it was a one-shot deal. Legion is the typical pretentious nonsense, ashamed of its origins. We won't be worse off without it. Why do you CONSTANTLY claim anything that isn't in the mcu is only acclaimed or praised by critics or highly successful because of something trivial? I know many of the mcu fanatics have nothing at all in their sad empty little lives other than some goofy movies but is it really so hard for you to admit other studios and companies produce excellent product? Do you realize how ridiculous your denial in the face of overwhelming evidence makes you look? I know it's just a message board full of strangers but it's odd you are fine with being a joke that no one takes seriously. Perhaps you believe that's your lot in life but it doesn't have to be.
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