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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Dec 15, 2017 21:44:40 GMT
Daenerys to Jon :
I ask you not to judge a daughter by the sins of her father.
same episode
Daenyrys to Jon :
Honor the pledge your ancestor made to mine.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Dec 16, 2017 7:38:07 GMT
That typical attitude of deeming "moral" whatever is in one's own interest.
Daenerys is one of the most disgusting characters.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Dec 16, 2017 22:43:02 GMT
She's a very tragic figure
I think Dany all her life wanted a family or
to be loved and it seems people who try to give her that either die or
Betray her and I think that can make anyone snap a bit, but yes she contradicts herself
In all the discussions she had with Jon it was almost like this I really
think they are going with a dark Dany for last season
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Dec 17, 2017 9:57:49 GMT
She's a very tragic figure I think Dany all her life wanted a family or to be loved This is not what the show displays. The books do weigh on this aspect of the character but the show does not at all. Show-Daenerys, like show-Cersei, is very different from the original. We never hear her say anything about her own needs or wishes beyond "I'll take what is mine with fire and blood" or some variation of it. She looks very happy with her "wannabe-queen" status while book-Daenerys is moody, insecure and reluctant. |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Dec 18, 2017 21:40:24 GMT
She's a very tragic figure I think Dany all her life wanted a family or to be loved This is not what the show displays. The books do weigh on this aspect of the character but the show does not at all. Show-Daenerys, like show-Cersei, is very different from the original. We never hear her say anything about her own needs or wishes beyond "I'll take what is mine with fire and blood" or some variation of it. She looks very happy with her "wannabe-queen" status while book-Daenerys is moody, insecure and reluctant. I have only read parts of the books , but yes I have heard from other fans or friends who watch the show they tell me the same thing that they don't like Dany as much , I think on the show they want to show her as a strong ruler woman after all she is mother of dragons and it's very obvious she is D&D favorite but they too can't do much not to show another side to Dany it's only recently they started saying anything remotely negative about her and I think it's because they know how this will end for her they have no choice Daenyrys character will be one of the main characters in the books that will die first , I still stand by what I read 4 years ago and posted and was laughed at for , Dany dies in winds of winter book the spoiler Dany loses a dragon (, this already happened) , Dany dies north of the wall , and Tyrion dies as well according to those leaks .any other show danys death would have been in season 7 but they want to drag it out to season 8 . |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Dec 19, 2017 6:45:15 GMT
This is not what the show displays. The books do weigh on this aspect of the character but the show does not at all. Show-Daenerys, like show-Cersei, is very different from the original. We never hear her say anything about her own needs or wishes beyond "I'll take what is mine with fire and blood" or some variation of it. She looks very happy with her "wannabe-queen" status while book-Daenerys is moody, insecure and reluctant. I have only read parts of the books , but yes I have heard from other fans or friends who watch the show they tell me the same thing that they don't like Dany as much , I think on the show they want to show her as a strong ruler woman after all she is mother of dragons and it's very obvious she is D&D favorite but they too can't do much not to show another side to Dany it's only recently they started saying anything remotely negative about her and I think it's because they know how this will end for her they have no choice Daenyrys character will be one of the main characters in the books that will die first , I still stand by what I read 4 years ago and posted and was laughed at for , Dany dies in winds of winter book the spoiler Dany loses a dragon (, this already happened) , Dany dies north of the wall , and Tyrion dies as well according to those leaks .any other show danys death would have been in season 7 but they want to drag it out to season 8 . Book-Daenerys is more likeable than the show version, more complex. People often dislike the Daenerys chapters in the books because they are a side story-line with no close connection to the rest and, let's face it, they are mostly ridiculous if not outright boring, full of descriptions of over the top exotic fantasies and a myriad of multicoloured characters without depth. I don't know if Daenerys is D&D's favourite. They certainly know she is a fan favourite and cater to this, building her up to better throw her down. She's been consciously hyped as the "Saviour" only for people to be shown that there is no such thing after all. This is a message we've already heard from Davos and Tormund in S6 and I'm sure it will come again. S6E09, 21:41 - Maybe that was our mistake, believing in kings. - Jon Snow's not a king. - No, he's not. Now he is and he just helped the Night King bring down the Wall. I don't expect this story to end in the glorification of a good, almighty king or queen like Aragorn in The Lord Of The Rings. There will be either no one on the Iron Throne at the end or someone the masses don't want. I remember this discussion about spoilers of the Winds Of Winter. I had no trouble believing it. I wonder how Tyrion would die. I hope Cersei gets him. Revenge for Tywin! |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Dec 20, 2017 0:10:33 GMT
I have only read parts of the books , but yes I have heard from other fans or friends who watch the show they tell me the same thing that they don't like Dany as much , I think on the show they want to show her as a strong ruler woman after all she is mother of dragons and it's very obvious she is D&D favorite but they too can't do much not to show another side to Dany it's only recently they started saying anything remotely negative about her and I think it's because they know how this will end for her they have no choice Daenyrys character will be one of the main characters in the books that will die first , I still stand by what I read 4 years ago and posted and was laughed at for , Dany dies in winds of winter book the spoiler Dany loses a dragon (, this already happened) , Dany dies north of the wall , and Tyrion dies as well according to those leaks .any other show danys death would have been in season 7 but they want to drag it out to season 8 . Book-Daenerys is more likeable than the show version, more complex. People often dislike the Daenerys chapters in the books because they are a side story-line with no close connection to the rest and, let's face it, they are mostly ridiculous if not outright boring, full of descriptions of over the top exotic fantasies and a myriad of multicoloured characters without depth. I don't know if Daenerys is D&D's favourite. They certainly know she is a fan favourite and cater to this, building her up to better throw her down. She's been consciously hyped as the "Saviour" only for people to be shown that there is no such thing after all. This is a message we've already heard from Davos and Tormund in S6 and I'm sure it will come again. S6E09, 21:41 - Maybe that was our mistake, believing in kings. - Jon Snow's not a king. - No, he's not. Now he is and he just helped the Night King bring down the Wall. I don't expect this story to end in the glorification of a good, almighty king or queen like Aragorn in The Lord Of The Rings. There will be either no one on the Iron Throne at the end or someone the masses don't want. I remember this discussion about spoilers of the Winds Of Winter. I had no trouble believing it. I wonder how Tyrion would die. I hope Cersei gets him. Revenge for Tywin! If Tyrion dies in books I wonder if they Will do it in the books ? I hope they do he is an important character and the one character masses (fans that is )don't want to remain on the iron throne is cersei or the lannisters maybe that's the bittersweet ending everything will remain as it began only difference a lot people died through battles. |
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