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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 22, 2017 3:10:12 GMT
If you jog for a mile on a cold day, can you turn around and see a mile-long trail of your condensed breath? Well, that's what we're expected to believe when we see "contrails" that hang in the sky for three hours after the airplane is gone. I'm not sure about you but I don't exhale ice crystals. If you do then you might want to seek advice from a medical professional because there's a good chance you're dead. Nobody exhales ice crystals. An airplane engine doesn't throw out ice crystals either. You're obfuscating. Obama did it better than you, which explains in part why he made it so much higher up the ladder.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Dec 22, 2017 3:12:21 GMT
I'm not sure about you but I don't exhale ice crystals. If you do then you might want to seek advice from a medical professional because there's a good chance you're dead. Nobody exhales ice crystals. An airplane engine doesn't throw out ice crystals either. You're obfuscating. Obama did it better than you, which explains in part why he made it so much higher up the ladder. Stop using words you don't understand. i already linked the explanation for you. I know...gangster science.
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Dec 22, 2017 4:57:14 GMT
Still no mention of radiocarbon or original ratios? This is a lesson that might’ve stuck! You've grown silent on crystallization. "The age of the Earth is not in question." So, I've noticed. Don't feel bad about getting caught using statistical analysis as if it were more certain science. It's not bad. Journalists use it all the time, way more than scientists. We have to use it because humans can't be put in laboratory cages. I studied it more thoroughly than you obviously. You’ve studied it so thoroughly, yet you don’t even know the difference between radiocarbon dating and U-Pb dating.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 22, 2017 6:22:47 GMT
Ya know, watching theoncomingstorm and yougotastewgoinbaby handling Erjen and Arlon's scientific illiteracy, I can't help but think how well their avatars represent the attitudes of most everyone reading the dodoic duo's posts.
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Post by Arlon10 on Dec 22, 2017 10:13:47 GMT
You've grown silent on crystallization. "The age of the Earth is not in question." So, I've noticed. Don't feel bad about getting caught using statistical analysis as if it were more certain science. It's not bad. Journalists use it all the time, way more than scientists. We have to use it because humans can't be put in laboratory cages. I studied it more thoroughly than you obviously. You’ve studied it so thoroughly, yet you don’t even know the difference between radiocarbon dating and U-Pb dating. You think it's funny that I don't understand what you're talking about, but the funnier thing is you still don't know what you're talking about. How am I supposed to know what you mean when you don't? I can understand all sorts of arguments and techniques for estimating the age of things and have for many years now, and the differences between those techniques. They all depend on assumptions similar to yours -- whatever yours might be, excuse me for not guessing that. I can help you. You're confusing things, not me. I'm talking about similar things fully understanding they are not the same. You're confusing the science of the field with the science of the laboratory. You're confusing statistical analysis with chemistry. You're confusing crystallization with other types of bonding, as if I wouldn't notice. You must have thought you had a trap for me, and it turns out it was a trap for you.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 22, 2017 10:53:27 GMT
Arlon's latest argument boils down to:
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Post by Lugh on Dec 22, 2017 14:19:50 GMT
Why are people so harsh to Arlon? Is courtesy not a thing here?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 15:08:39 GMT
I am reading much more of this than I wish. It's okay, I read fast. I have the advantage of not having to memorize anything This shit writes itself... really
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 22, 2017 15:20:26 GMT
Why are people so harsh to Arlon? He's the living embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Dec 22, 2017 16:36:42 GMT
I can understand all sorts of arguments and techniques for estimating the age of things and have for many years now, and the differences between those techniques. They all depend on assumptions similar to yours -- whatever yours might be, excuse me for not guessing that. O? Which techniques have you understood for many years now? Certainly not the U-Pb technique, one of the most common radiometric techniques used. You keep whinging on about 'original ratios' of radioactive isotopes and daughter isotopes, when it has been explained to you that any Pb within Zircon crystals would have to be the product of U or Th radioactive decay, and so the idea of an original ratio makes not sense. What other radiometric techniques have you misunderstood? And what is the science of the field in this case? Are you talking about sample collecting? What other type of 'bonding', other than the crystallization of zircon, could be at play? What condition should a zircon crystal be in for SEM/microprobe analysis? I've already taught you so much...it's only fair that you reciprocate, and impart some of your vast knowledge unto me. Yes Arlon. This thread went really well for you.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 22, 2017 17:11:29 GMT
Well you know, Satan put all those dinosaur bones in the ground to trick people.
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Post by progressiveelement on Dec 22, 2017 17:38:28 GMT
Well you know, Satan put all those dinosaur bones in the ground to trick people. KFC had yet to exist, and there were no bins around..
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Post by Lugh on Dec 22, 2017 19:21:44 GMT
Why are people so harsh to Arlon? He's the living embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect. That doesn't excuse rudeness and what could possibly be called bullying. It seems every single thread he responds to or makes becomes a 'be needlessly rude via mockery to Arlon thread'
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Post by goz on Dec 22, 2017 19:40:31 GMT
He's the living embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect. That doesn't excuse rudeness and what could possibly be called bullying. It seems every single thread he responds to or makes becomes a 'be needlessly rude via mockery to Arlon thread' I think you have to understand the context. I don't know you, and I don't know if you were on the old IMDb however many of the posters here have built up ( sometimes over many years ) a posting history with each other. There are certain posters who have consciously built up there 'personas' and who post consistently in a certain manner according to their beliefs. By and large there is respect for that, though this is an adversarial messaging and discussion forum, so you don't come here not to have rigorous scrutiny of the veracity and tenor of your posts. It is also totally optional and we have an active admin. If you feel you are being bullied, there are several courses of action. You can stand up for yourself and prove your argument with facts, sources, citations etc ( all of which will be rigorously reviewed....ironically much like peer reviewing in the scientific world) you can whine to admin or you can not post about contentious subjects. In a couple of cases here, we have regular posters who are, as someone suggested, classic cases of if Dunning-Kruger syndrome. Yes, perhaps it is mean to try and point out their deficiencies, however they so believe that they are correct that they having been coming back for more for years, if not decades. It is, what it is. You have choices too.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Dec 22, 2017 21:13:35 GMT
That doesn't excuse rudeness and what could possibly be called bullying. It seems every single thread he responds to or makes becomes a 'be needlessly rude via mockery to Arlon thread' I think you have to understand the context. I don't know you, and I don't know if you were on the old IMDb however many of the posters here have built up ( sometimes over many years ) a posting history with each other. There are certain posters who have consciously built up there 'personas' and who post consistently in a certain manner according to their beliefs. By and large there is respect for that, though this is an adversarial messaging and discussion forum, so you don't come here not to have rigorous scrutiny of the veracity and tenor of your posts. It is also totally optional and we have an active admin. If you feel you are being bullied, there are several courses of action. You can stand up for yourself and prove your argument with facts, sources, citations etc ( all of which will be rigorously reviewed....ironically much like peer reviewing in the scientific world) you can whine to admin or you can not post about contentious subjects. In a couple of cases here, we have regular posters who are, as someone suggested, classic cases of if Dunning-Kruger syndrome. Yes, perhaps it is mean to try and point out their deficiencies, however they so believe that they are correct that they having been coming back for more for years, if not decades. It is, what it is. You have choices too. dcu = the kiddie fiddler formerly known as Saroadh
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Post by kls on Dec 22, 2017 21:15:49 GMT
Obviously predates humankind.
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Post by Lugh on Dec 22, 2017 21:26:22 GMT
I think you have to understand the context. I don't know you, and I don't know if you were on the old IMDb however many of the posters here have built up ( sometimes over many years ) a posting history with each other. There are certain posters who have consciously built up there 'personas' and who post consistently in a certain manner according to their beliefs. By and large there is respect for that, though this is an adversarial messaging and discussion forum, so you don't come here not to have rigorous scrutiny of the veracity and tenor of your posts. It is also totally optional and we have an active admin. If you feel you are being bullied, there are several courses of action. You can stand up for yourself and prove your argument with facts, sources, citations etc ( all of which will be rigorously reviewed....ironically much like peer reviewing in the scientific world) you can whine to admin or you can not post about contentious subjects. In a couple of cases here, we have regular posters who are, as someone suggested, classic cases of if Dunning-Kruger syndrome. Yes, perhaps it is mean to try and point out their deficiencies, however they so believe that they are correct that they having been coming back for more for years, if not decades. It is, what it is. You have choices too. dcu = the kiddie fiddler formerly known as Saroadh Evidence?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 22, 2017 21:32:55 GMT
I think you have to understand the context. I don't know you, and I don't know if you were on the old IMDb however many of the posters here have built up ( sometimes over many years ) a posting history with each other. There are certain posters who have consciously built up there 'personas' and who post consistently in a certain manner according to their beliefs. By and large there is respect for that, though this is an adversarial messaging and discussion forum, so you don't come here not to have rigorous scrutiny of the veracity and tenor of your posts. It is also totally optional and we have an active admin. If you feel you are being bullied, there are several courses of action. You can stand up for yourself and prove your argument with facts, sources, citations etc ( all of which will be rigorously reviewed....ironically much like peer reviewing in the scientific world) you can whine to admin or you can not post about contentious subjects. In a couple of cases here, we have regular posters who are, as someone suggested, classic cases of if Dunning-Kruger syndrome. Yes, perhaps it is mean to try and point out their deficiencies, however they so believe that they are correct that they having been coming back for more for years, if not decades. It is, what it is. You have choices too. dcu = the kiddie fiddler formerly known as Saroadh Was he that creepy pedohile communist poster?
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Post by goz on Dec 22, 2017 21:46:19 GMT
I think you have to understand the context. I don't know you, and I don't know if you were on the old IMDb however many of the posters here have built up ( sometimes over many years ) a posting history with each other. There are certain posters who have consciously built up there 'personas' and who post consistently in a certain manner according to their beliefs. By and large there is respect for that, though this is an adversarial messaging and discussion forum, so you don't come here not to have rigorous scrutiny of the veracity and tenor of your posts. It is also totally optional and we have an active admin. If you feel you are being bullied, there are several courses of action. You can stand up for yourself and prove your argument with facts, sources, citations etc ( all of which will be rigorously reviewed....ironically much like peer reviewing in the scientific world) you can whine to admin or you can not post about contentious subjects. In a couple of cases here, we have regular posters who are, as someone suggested, classic cases of if Dunning-Kruger syndrome. Yes, perhaps it is mean to try and point out their deficiencies, however they so believe that they are correct that they having been coming back for more for years, if not decades. It is, what it is. You have choices too. dcu = the kiddie fiddler formerly known as Saroadh Thanks, butt in a sense I don't care. This is a new slate to a degree. If you use your old name or references to it, it is obvious who you are and people can make of that what they wish. If not, I prefer to let their words speak for them and their views. Most will pretty obviously assume a previous persona. BTW who was 'cupcakes'? I will admit to a curiosity on behalf of some posters here,
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Dec 22, 2017 21:50:57 GMT
dcu = the kiddie fiddler formerly known as Saroadh Thanks, butt in a sense I don't care. This is a new slate to a degree. If you use your old name or references to it, it is obvious who you are and people can make of that what they wish. If not, I prefer to let their words speak for them and their views. Most will pretty obviously assume a previous persona. BTW who was 'cupcakes'? I will admit to a curiosity on behalf of some posters here, Pretty sure cupcakes was 'youmightrabbityoumight' or something along those lines.
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