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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 24, 2017 8:25:24 GMT
a shot of a Skywalker, including Rogue One.
Unless broom boy is somehow related.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 8:53:25 GMT
That final scene was stupid. They had a perfectly adequate final shot of the resistance on the Falcon with the porg on r2’s head. I liked that.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 24, 2017 16:06:35 GMT
That I don't even recall the final shot/scene of TLJ speaks for itself & I saw it just over a week ago.
I still liked it enough, better than TFA, just not much of a special event. Rogue One is better than both easily.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 16:17:04 GMT
I loved the final scene. It shows that although fight against tyranny is in a dark place, there are seeds of hope always being planted in the GFFA.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 16:26:56 GMT
I loved the final scene. It shows that although fight against tyranny is in a dark place, there are seeds of hope always being planted in the GFFA. 🙄 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 16:32:43 GMT
I loved the final scene. It shows that although fight against tyranny is in a dark place, there are seeds of hope always being planted in the GFFA. 🙄  |
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Post by azzajones on Dec 26, 2017 4:18:21 GMT
How can broom boy use the force when he's received no training whatsoever?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 4:38:16 GMT
How can broom boy use the force when he's received no training whatsoever? That question has been asked for centuries without answers. It's also known as Grace vs. Deeds, Nature vs. Nurture, etc. Is a great connection to the Force a birthright, or earned, or both? Who decides who gets that access, the Force, the user or both? Are there more variables that tilt the favor to one side vs. the other? We always talk about this from the perspective of the human in this whole thing, what about the perspective of the Force? |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Dec 26, 2017 12:25:53 GMT
I loved the final scene. It shows that although fight against tyranny is in a dark place, there are seeds of hope always being planted in the GFFA. It was tonally inappropriate and inconsistent with the previous "saga" films. This is the sort of asymmetry and inattention to detail that makes the Disney movies cash-grab garbage with little rewatch value. It was fine for an anthology movie though. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 12:34:54 GMT
How can broom boy use the force when he's received no training whatsoever? That question has been asked for centuries without answers. It's also known as Grace vs. Deeds, Nature vs. Nurture, etc. Is a great connection to the Force a birthright, or earned, or both? Who decides who gets that access, the Force, the user or both? Are there more variables that tilt the favor to one side vs. the other? We always talk about this from the perspective of the human in this whole thing, what about the perspective of the Force? It looks like Rian Johnson thinks that nature is the winner. Rey turns to the dark side so easily. She was obviously born bad. In the prequels, Anakin’s turn to the dark side coincided with anger and negative thoughts. Rey never seemed to exhibit such emotions Although she did appear to grow up alone without love. Maybe she was repressing these emotions. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Dec 26, 2017 12:37:26 GMT
That question has been asked for centuries without answers. It's also known as Grace vs. Deeds, Nature vs. Nurture, etc. Is a great connection to the Force a birthright, or earned, or both? Who decides who gets that access, the Force, the user or both? Are there more variables that tilt the favor to one side vs. the other? We always talk about this from the perspective of the human in this whole thing, what about the perspective of the Force? It looks like Rian Johnson thinks that nature is the winner. Rey turns to the dark side so easily. She was obviously born bad. In the prequels, Anakin’s turn to the dark side coincided with anger and negative thoughts. Rey never seemed to exhibit such emotions Although she did appear to grow up alone without love. Maybe she was repressing these emotions. Or maybe she's a cardboard one-dimensional Mary Sue and none of what you wrote has literally ever occurred to the idiots churning this stuff out. Yo, maybe you should write IX, bro. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Dec 26, 2017 12:38:16 GMT
How can broom boy use the force when he's received no training whatsoever?  |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 26, 2017 12:40:19 GMT
That question has been asked for centuries without answers. It's also known as Grace vs. Deeds, Nature vs. Nurture, etc. Is a great connection to the Force a birthright, or earned, or both? Who decides who gets that access, the Force, the user or both? Are there more variables that tilt the favor to one side vs. the other? We always talk about this from the perspective of the human in this whole thing, what about the perspective of the Force? It looks like Rian Johnson thinks that nature is the winner. Rey turns to the dark side so easily. She was obviously born bad. In the prequels, Anakin’s turn to the dark side coincided with anger and negative thoughts. Rey never seemed to exhibit such emotions Although she did appear to grow up alone without love. Maybe she was repressing these emotions. Character motivation and history is not relevant for falling to the dark side anymore. If Rey can "download" the Force and skills without learning, why should she not be able to download the dark side as well, or delete it when she does not need it anymore? Duh! Never heard of the dark net, it's a thing. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Dec 26, 2017 12:42:41 GMT
It looks like Rian Johnson thinks that nature is the winner. Rey turns to the dark side so easily. She was obviously born bad. In the prequels, Anakin’s turn to the dark side coincided with anger and negative thoughts. Rey never seemed to exhibit such emotions Although she did appear to grow up alone without love. Maybe she was repressing these emotions. Character motivation and history is not relevant for falling to the dark side anymore. If Rey can "download" the Force and skills without learning, why should she not be able to download the dark side as well, or delete it when she does not need it anymore? Duh! Maybe she'll become a GreyJedi~* in IX!!!!1 (Leave it to the childfucking cultists at Disney to muddle a morally explicit concept like the Force into oblivion... whoops, wrong forum!!!!1) |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 26, 2017 12:46:12 GMT
Character motivation and history is not relevant for falling to the dark side anymore. If Rey can "download" the Force and skills without learning, why should she not be able to download the dark side as well, or delete it when she does not need it anymore? Duh! Maybe she'll become a GreyJedi~* in IX!!!!1 (Leave it to the childfucking cultists at Disney to muddle a morally explicit concept like the Force into oblivion... whoops, wrong forum!!!!1) I would welcome that, but unlikely. Their effort is to simplify (dumb down) the mythology to make it more accessible for new audiences. You saw that eg when they reduced the first film to Ties vs X-Wings, so not to confuse general audiences with other or new crafts. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 26, 2017 13:11:06 GMT
Character motivation and history is not relevant for falling to the dark side anymore. If Rey can "download" the Force and skills without learning, why should she not be able to download the dark side as well, or delete it when she does not need it anymore? Duh! Maybe she'll become a GreyJedi~* in IX!!!!1 (Leave it to the childfucking cultists at Disney to muddle a morally explicit concept like the Force into oblivion... whoops, wrong forum!!!!1) If Rey was a interesting or even likable character than I wouldn't mind her becoming a Grey Jedi. Disney probably won't go through with it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 16:25:04 GMT
I loved the final scene. It shows that although fight against tyranny is in a dark place, there are seeds of hope always being planted in the GFFA. It was tonally inappropriate and inconsistent with the previous "saga" films. This is the sort of asymmetry and inattention to detail that makes the Disney movies cash-grab garbage with little rewatch value. It was fine for an anthology movie though. Oh, I don't think that final scene was an inattention to detail. It was a statement. |
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