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Post by mcufan on Jan 12, 2018 11:33:57 GMT
How about none of the above? The last Hunger Games did well enough navigating around Philip Seymour Hoffman's death. His character shares a similar role to Leia's as a leader of a Resistance. I don't know how big his part was originally supposed to be, but they just had him out of action and had other characters speak for him. We see him once or twice, which I assume was unused footage from previous films. Why not something like that? No CGI, no recasting, and God help us, no killing off between movies (this is Princess f***ing Leia!). And have her look at the camera vaguely? |
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Post by audiosane on Jan 12, 2018 14:35:56 GMT
My preference is an opening crawl that explains Leia's death followed by a funeral scene. That said, if they end up doing something stupid or disrespectful, I'll be like, "...Yeah." I'm thinking a time lapse of several years, with open war between the (now rebels ans it's allies) and an opening crwal like you said: The beloved princess Leia is no more. The First order dominates the galaxy only opposed by a band of rebels led by the hot-shot pilot Poe Dameron and the former Stormtrooper Finn that seek guidance of former Rebel General Lando Calrissian. Amidst the raging war there have been scarce sightings of the New supreme Leader Kylo Ren, amongst his apprentices, the knights of REN that terrorize the Galaxy seeking newly discovered force users. The Legend of a new savior, akin to the fabled Luke Skywalker, rise, but, like it's predecessor, the whereabouts of this Last Jedi remain unknown. It then cuts to a battle to save younglings from the knights of REN, After that it cuts to Lando in Leias grave. Rey has been teaching herself in the ways of the force with the books and Luke force ghost while giving shelter to younglings that are force sensitive. A Mini Jedi Academy. Meanwhile Kylo Ren is doing the same with his force younglings. They keep in touch discussing the ways of the force, while teaching their respective younglings. Yeah, I would like to finally see the Knights of Ren in IX. I hope just they get more development than those red guards in the throne room. What's Lando doing in Leia's grave? You're introducing younglings in the 3rd film of the trilogy? Why? What purpose will they serve to the story? |
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Post by mcufan on Jan 12, 2018 14:37:58 GMT
I'm thinking a time lapse of several years, with open war between the (now rebels ans it's allies) and an opening crwal like you said: The beloved princess Leia is no more. The First order dominates the galaxy only opposed by a band of rebels led by the hot-shot pilot Poe Dameron and the former Stormtrooper Finn that seek guidance of former Rebel General Lando Calrissian. Amidst the raging war there have been scarce sightings of the New supreme Leader Kylo Ren, amongst his apprentices, the knights of REN that terrorize the Galaxy seeking newly discovered force users. The Legend of a new savior, akin to the fabled Luke Skywalker, rise, but, like it's predecessor, the whereabouts of this Last Jedi remain unknown. It then cuts to a battle to save younglings from the knights of REN, After that it cuts to Lando in Leias grave. Rey has been teaching herself in the ways of the force with the books and Luke force ghost while giving shelter to younglings that are force sensitive. A Mini Jedi Academy. Meanwhile Kylo Ren is doing the same with his force younglings. They keep in touch discussing the ways of the force, while teaching their respective younglings. Yeah, I would like to finally see the Knights of Ren in IX. I hope just they get more development than those red guards in the throne room. What's Lando doing in Leia's grave? You're introducing younglings in the 3rd film of the trilogy? Why? What purpose will they serve to the story? He's paying his respects. To be the next generation. |
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Post by leesilm on Jan 12, 2018 15:59:08 GMT
Opening crawl:
The battle between the First Order and the Rebellion (or Resistance- depending which way Disney goes) continues on. Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has been quietly searching the galaxy for Force-sensitives willing to join him, killing those who resist. Meanwhile, Commander Hux concentrates the army on rooting out supporters of the Rebellion, while plotting to become the new Supreme Leader.
The Rebellion, still recovering from two years ago, has been dealt another. General Leia has passed away, due to complications of her injuries from two years ago. In her place, Commander Poe Dameron and _insert 2nd character_/Lando have continued to lead the Rebellion, as the only resistance against the cruel First Order's regime.
The young Jedi Rey, has been studying the Jedi Tomes, learning the ways of the old Jedi. She has learned to block off her mind from Kylo Ren and seeks to understand how she might use it to their advantage against the First Order. She now travels with the loyal droid R2-D2 and Co-pilot Chewbacca, across the galaxy on errands for the Rebellion. Their latest errand is of vital importance and could change the tide of the war....
*Cut to the view of a planet with the Falcon coming in to land
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 16:25:37 GMT
JJ Abrams is in charge. So it's gonna be something bland and unimaginative.
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Post by Larcen26 on Jan 12, 2018 17:28:28 GMT
Episode IX
Something Something
THE ALLIANCE IS IN MOURNING.
AS LEADERS GATHER TO HONOR THE
PASSING OF GENERAL LEIA, A NEW
THREAT IS NOT FAR FROM VIEW.
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Post by audiosane on Jan 12, 2018 19:38:02 GMT
Yeah, I would like to finally see the Knights of Ren in IX. I hope just they get more development than those red guards in the throne room. What's Lando doing in Leia's grave? You're introducing younglings in the 3rd film of the trilogy? Why? What purpose will they serve to the story? He's paying his respects. To be the next generation. You don't start training the next generation in the 3rd film of the trilogy, unless it's at the very end. |
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Post by Larcen26 on Jan 12, 2018 20:00:25 GMT
He's paying his respects. To be the next generation. You don't start training the next generation in the 3rd film of the trilogy, unless it's at the very end. Lando is one of only two characters who could feasibly eulogize Leia. If he is assumed to still be part of the Alliance, he was a General in ROTJ, he could easily be Admiral Calrissian. Gives him high enough rank militarily, but also is a character with enough history with Leia. The worst thing they could do would be to have Poe, Rey or some random new character do it. Though I suppose a moment with Billie Lourd would be nice...her laying a rose on the casket or something. |
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Post by audiosane on Jan 12, 2018 20:17:55 GMT
You don't start training the next generation in the 3rd film of the trilogy, unless it's at the very end. Lando is one of only two characters who could feasibly eulogize Leia. If he is assumed to still be part of the Alliance, he was a General in ROTJ, he could easily be Admiral Calrissian. Gives him high enough rank militarily, but also is a character with enough history with Leia. The worst thing they could do would be to have Poe, Rey or some random new character do it. Though I suppose a moment with Billie Lourd would be nice...her laying a rose on the casket or something. Maybe they'll just have a number of characters share their memories of Leia. I don't think Lando is going to show up out of no where just to give a eulogy, especially if the Resistance is in hiding. |
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Post by Larcen26 on Jan 12, 2018 20:44:36 GMT
Lando is one of only two characters who could feasibly eulogize Leia. If he is assumed to still be part of the Alliance, he was a General in ROTJ, he could easily be Admiral Calrissian. Gives him high enough rank militarily, but also is a character with enough history with Leia. The worst thing they could do would be to have Poe, Rey or some random new character do it. Though I suppose a moment with Billie Lourd would be nice...her laying a rose on the casket or something. Maybe they'll just have a number of characters share their memories of Leia. I don't think Lando is going to show up out of no where just to give a eulogy, especially if the Resistance is in hiding. I think sentiment might require a touch of suspension of disbelief in this instance. We're talking about Leia ACTUALLY BEING DEAD here. To not pay it the right attention and respect would be a massive mistake. Though if you absolutely have to have a plot driven reason, they are consolidating whatever pieces of resistance are left in order to plan the next steps. The film has to open with the tribute, there's no real way around it. Every other option either drags it out or trivializes it. I'm still pulling for Chewbacca to eulogize her. (I am not joking.) |
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Post by pete8680 on Jan 13, 2018 9:01:23 GMT
They really need to bring Lando back.Put him in a hover wheelchair or something.
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Post by mcufan on Jan 13, 2018 12:57:06 GMT
He's paying his respects. To be the next generation. You don't start training the next generation in the 3rd film of the trilogy, unless it's at the very end. why is that? You think there will not be an episode X with a restored Jedi order? Might as well be part of the story now instead of coming out of the blue in the next. |
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Post by audiosane on Jan 14, 2018 1:36:26 GMT
Maybe they'll just have a number of characters share their memories of Leia. I don't think Lando is going to show up out of no where just to give a eulogy, especially if the Resistance is in hiding. I think sentiment might require a touch of suspension of disbelief in this instance. We're talking about Leia ACTUALLY BEING DEAD here. To not pay it the right attention and respect would be a massive mistake. Though if you absolutely have to have a plot driven reason, they are consolidating whatever pieces of resistance are left in order to plan the next steps. The film has to open with the tribute, there's no real way around it. Every other option either drags it out or trivializes it. I'm still pulling for Chewbacca to eulogize her. (I am not joking.)Rian Johnson would've pulled that shit. (I am not joking.) I hear you on Lando though. Hopefully, a few years will have passed. Maybe they'll need Lando's assistance. I'm sure he can provide soldiers and other support that's integrated into the Resistance. |
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Post by audiosane on Jan 14, 2018 1:44:49 GMT
You don't start training the next generation in the 3rd film of the trilogy, unless it's at the very end. why is that? You think there will not be an episode X with a restored Jedi order? Might as well be part of the story now instead of coming out of the blue in the next. The third film of the trilogy focuses on wrapping things up that were established in the first two films. Just look at ROTJ and ROTS. Training the next generation of Jedi makes more sense in the new trilogy, with Rey possibly taking on a supporting mentor role. |
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Post by darkpast on Jan 14, 2018 1:50:57 GMT
something like this  |
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Post by mcufan on Jan 14, 2018 3:55:42 GMT
why is that? You think there will not be an episode X with a restored Jedi order? Might as well be part of the story now instead of coming out of the blue in the next. The third film of the trilogy focuses on wrapping things up that were established in the first two films. Just look at ROTJ and ROTS. Training the next generation of Jedi makes more sense in the new trilogy, with Rey possibly taking on a supporting mentor role. Actually ROTS didn't wrap anything. The bad guys won, the hero fell, everybody is scattered. It ended akin to empire more than rotj. I think Ix will end establishing the next trilogy, thus the younglings. |
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Post by audiosane on Jan 14, 2018 8:56:03 GMT
The third film of the trilogy focuses on wrapping things up that were established in the first two films. Just look at ROTJ and ROTS. Training the next generation of Jedi makes more sense in the new trilogy, with Rey possibly taking on a supporting mentor role. Actually ROTS didn't wrap anything. The bad guys won, the hero fell, everybody is scattered. It ended akin to empire more than rotj. I think Ix will end establishing the next trilogy, thus the younglings.  It's not about who won; it's about bringing most or all of the things set up in TPM and AOTC to a conclusion. ROTS concluded: - Palpatine's ambition for power by making him Emperor - Anakin's rise as a Jedi by having him betray the Jedi Order and turn to the dark side - Anakin and Padme's love story by having it end tragically - Padme's blossoming love for Anakin by having it result in her giving birth to Luke and Leia - the Jedi Order's blindness to the trouble it was in by having it wiped out by Vader and Order 66 - the Old Republic being transformed into the Empire - Obi-Wan's gradual problems with Anakin by having them fight until Anakin is severely wounded - etc. You know what training the next generation of Jedi in IX would be akin to? Interrupting the search for Luke to drop a Death Star subplot into our laps. It makes no sense. Save that shit for X. |
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Post by mcufan on Jan 14, 2018 13:03:46 GMT
Actually ROTS didn't wrap anything. The bad guys won, the hero fell, everybody is scattered. It ended akin to empire more than rotj. I think Ix will end establishing the next trilogy, thus the younglings. It's not about who won; it's about bringing most or all of the things set up in TPM and AOTC to a conclusion. ROTS concluded: - Palpatine's ambition for power by making him Emperor - Anakin's rise as a Jedi by having him betray the Jedi Order and turn to the dark side - Anakin and Padme's love story by having it end tragically - Padme's blossoming love for Anakin by having it result in her giving birth to Luke and Leia - the Jedi Order's blindness to the trouble it was in by having it wiped out by Vader and Order 66 - the Old Republic being transformed into the Empire - Obi-Wan's gradual problems with Anakin by having them fight until Anakin is severely wounded - etc. You know what training the next generation of Jedi in IX would be akin to? Interrupting the search for Luke to drop a Death Star subplot into our laps. It makes no sense. Save that shit for X. it only made sense because you had episode 4. Imagine they were released in order. And that was the last Star wars for 20 years. What a delight! The bad guys won! Everybody is depressed. What happened to the kids, to obi wan to Yoda? What I'm saying is that ROTS couldn't be the end of the saga. Too many questions. I think Ix will be like that. They did interrupt the search for Luke for a ds subplot. Lol And please don't make me watch that "man's" face. Yuck |
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Post by audiosane on Jan 15, 2018 3:49:16 GMT
It's not about who won; it's about bringing most or all of the things set up in TPM and AOTC to a conclusion. ROTS concluded: - Palpatine's ambition for power by making him Emperor - Anakin's rise as a Jedi by having him betray the Jedi Order and turn to the dark side - Anakin and Padme's love story by having it end tragically - Padme's blossoming love for Anakin by having it result in her giving birth to Luke and Leia - the Jedi Order's blindness to the trouble it was in by having it wiped out by Vader and Order 66 - the Old Republic being transformed into the Empire - Obi-Wan's gradual problems with Anakin by having them fight until Anakin is severely wounded - etc. You know what training the next generation of Jedi in IX would be akin to? Interrupting the search for Luke to drop a Death Star subplot into our laps. It makes no sense. Save that shit for X. it only made sense because you had episode 4. Imagine they were released in order. And that was the last Star wars for 20 years. What a delight! The bad guys won! Everybody is depressed. What happened to the kids, to obi wan to Yoda? What I'm saying is that ROTS couldn't be the end of the saga. Too many questions. I think Ix will be like that. They did interrupt the search for Luke for a ds subplot. Lol And please don't make me watch that "man's" face. Yuck I'm not talking about making sense within the context of the saga. I'm talking about wrapping up what was established in the first two films of a trilogy. Rey's journey at this point is finding her own way and figuring out how to deal with Kylo Ren, not raising up the next generation of Jedi. Plus, when the training occurs, the story is typically told from the perspective of the student, not the teacher. This is still Rey's story. That said, I agree with you that waiting 16 years from ROTS in 1983 to ANH in 1999 would've been weird. We all know that the Prequels were meant to be the backstory of the OT despite being a trilogy, so it works out fine the way it was handled. |
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Post by Larcen26 on Jan 15, 2018 14:10:38 GMT
I think sentiment might require a touch of suspension of disbelief in this instance. We're talking about Leia ACTUALLY BEING DEAD here. To not pay it the right attention and respect would be a massive mistake. Though if you absolutely have to have a plot driven reason, they are consolidating whatever pieces of resistance are left in order to plan the next steps. The film has to open with the tribute, there's no real way around it. Every other option either drags it out or trivializes it. I'm still pulling for Chewbacca to eulogize her. (I am not joking.)I hear you on Lando though. Hopefully, a few years will have passed. Maybe they'll need Lando's assistance. I'm sure he can provide soldiers and other support that's integrated into the Resistance. He had the chance and didn't take it. Chewy should have been the one to break the news about Han to Luke. |
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