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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 15, 2018 0:04:44 GMT
In this video essay uploader captainmidnight explains how some of the creative choices behind Spider-Man: Homecoming improved upon elements from the past films and made them more true to the spirit of the comic. linkI think he makes some pretty good points, especially in his defense of Peter's high-tech suit. It allowed the filmmakers to actually use his eyes to emote, and the addition of an AI like "Karen" is a clever idea to go about Peter's endless talking to himself. Its an important character trait but out of concern of coming off as too cheesy and weird the past movies avoided this and made him talk less while wearing the suit. With "Karen" he has something/someone to talk to in costume and we the audience get to understand what makes him tick more. Beyond that, it was also smart move to "ground" the story by and not have the stakes be too big ( Not having everything on the line, making the villain's goals more simpler, etc.). |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 15, 2018 0:29:05 GMT
In this video essay uploader captainmidnight explains how some of the creative choices behind Spider-Man: Homecoming improved upon elements from the past films and made them more true to the spirit of the comic. linkI think he makes some pretty good points, especially in his defense of Peter's high-tech suit. It allowed the filmmakers to actually use his eyes to emote, and the addition of an AI like "Karen" is a clever idea to go about Peter's endless talking to himself. Its an important character trait but out of concern of coming off as too cheesy and weird the past movies avoided this and made him talk less while wearing the suit. With "Karen" he has something/someone to talk to in costume and we the audience get to understand what makes him tick more. Beyond that, it was also smart move to "ground" the story by and not have the stakes be too big ( Not having everything on the line, making the villain's goals more simpler, etc.). They turned Spider-Man into a shallow show-off whose only motivation for being a hero is to try to impress Tony Stark. That completely betrays the comic book character. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 15, 2018 0:57:14 GMT
In this video essay uploader captainmidnight explains how some of the creative choices behind Spider-Man: Homecoming improved upon elements from the past films and made them more true to the spirit of the comic. linkI think he makes some pretty good points, especially in his defense of Peter's high-tech suit. It allowed the filmmakers to actually use his eyes to emote, and the addition of an AI like "Karen" is a clever idea to go about Peter's endless talking to himself. Its an important character trait but out of concern of coming off as too cheesy and weird the past movies avoided this and made him talk less while wearing the suit. With "Karen" he has something/someone to talk to in costume and we the audience get to understand what makes him tick more. Beyond that, it was also smart move to "ground" the story by and not have the stakes be too big ( Not having everything on the line, making the villain's goals more simpler, etc.). They turned Spider-Man into a shallow show-off whose only motivation for being a hero is to try to impress Tony Stark. That completely betrays the comic book character. I figured you'd stop by and say something like that. As it stands the uploader made perfectly good reasons as to why they felt that way and illustrated that they do know their comic books pretty well, which is more than can be said for you. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 15, 2018 1:55:45 GMT
In this video essay uploader captainmidnight explains how some of the creative choices behind Spider-Man: Homecoming improved upon elements from the past films and made them more true to the spirit of the comic. linkI think he makes some pretty good points, especially in his defense of Peter's high-tech suit. It allowed the filmmakers to actually use his eyes to emote, and the addition of an AI like "Karen" is a clever idea to go about Peter's endless talking to himself. Its an important character trait but out of concern of coming off as too cheesy and weird the past movies avoided this and made him talk less while wearing the suit. With "Karen" he has something/someone to talk to in costume and we the audience get to understand what makes him tick more. Beyond that, it was also smart move to "ground" the story by and not have the stakes be too big ( Not having everything on the line, making the villain's goals more simpler, etc.). They turned Spider-Man into a shallow show-off whose only motivation for being a hero is to try to impress Tony Stark. That completely betrays the comic book character. If the Raimi movies had done this stuff, you'd be cheering them on. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Jan 15, 2018 2:47:08 GMT
They ruined it by making homecoming a comedy. Wormhole was right back on imdb calling the movie kiddie
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 15, 2018 2:57:58 GMT
They ruined it by making homecoming a comedy. Wormhole was right back on imdb calling the movie kiddie You must seriously hate Indiana Jones, Star Wars (all of them, OT, PT and ST), Ghostbusters, etc. The Raimi movies had more humor than Homecoming did. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 15, 2018 5:04:10 GMT
They ruined it by making homecoming a comedy. Wormhole was right back on imdb calling the movie kiddie First - Looks like you did not watch the video, at all. Second - It has no more comedy than most other MCU movies and most other action-adventure flicks. Third - Wormhole was a serious troll, you really think he believed what he said? Heck no, he did it to annoy, a lot like our dear friend DC-Fan. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Jan 15, 2018 5:17:13 GMT
Comedy is the problem with the MCU,Winter Soldier is the only serious movie and the Netflix Series too. Punisher was the MCUs highlight not Guardians,Homecoming or Ragnerok.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 15, 2018 6:16:50 GMT
Comedy is the problem with the MCU,Winter Soldier is the only serious movie and the Netflix Series too. Punisher was the MCUs highlight not Guardians,Homecoming or Ragnerok. So basically, - You did not watch the video. - You are following the words of a troll who never made a solid argument in their entire positing history and was only trying to rile people up. - You think serious = best quality possible, use of humor = total deal ruiner. You act like they're making Batman & Robins or Dungeons & Dragons, the use of comedy is perfectly fine and they serve the style and tone of the movies they're in rather than destroy anything they're building upon. Every story and character is not going to be played the same way, something like Spider-Man will be on the more light-hearted side while The Punisher is going to dark and extremely violent. It's called variety. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 6:47:40 GMT
Comedy is the problem with the MCU,Winter Soldier is the only serious movie and the Netflix Series too. Punisher was the MCUs highlight not Guardians,Homecoming or Ragnerok. No comedy is your problem. The rest of the world is fine with it. Face it. Marvel Studios is the biggest studio out there making 2.5 billion dollars with just three movies released in 2017. No other studio comes even close. Right now Marvel Studios and the MCU are the biggest brand in Hollywood. And that is before they got all their characters back. So cry all you want over the humor in the MCU but its not going to change because people like it. |
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Post by charzhino on Jan 15, 2018 10:15:07 GMT
They got his motivation to be Spiderman wrong. The end.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 15, 2018 12:00:09 GMT
They got his motivation to be Spiderman wrong. The end. They mentioned it in Civil War, we don't need an hour of Uncle Ben getting shot again. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Jan 15, 2018 14:42:32 GMT
Serious is always better. Deadpool is the only character that should have humor. All the MCU products other than WS and the Netflix stuff is equal to Batman and Robin. ASM had the perfect tone for Spidey.
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 15, 2018 15:42:54 GMT
Serious is always better. Deadpool is the only character that should have humor. All the MCU products other than WS and the Netflix stuff is equal to Batman and Robin. ASM had the perfect tone for Spidey. Yeah, tell that to ‘Fant4stic’... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 16:01:52 GMT
They got his motivation to be Spiderman wrong. The end. The theme of the movie was responsibility just because he didn't blatantly say it doesn't mean that he just wants to impress Tony. He learns that he doesn't need to be an Avenger to be a hero at the end. You clearly didn't even watch the video and continue to show your bias. THE END. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 16:59:28 GMT
Serious is always better. Deadpool is the only character that should have humor. All the MCU products other than WS and the Netflix stuff is equal to Batman and Robin. ASM had the perfect tone for Spidey. To you. Quit speaking for other people you humorless pretentious douchebag. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 17:00:37 GMT
They got his motivation to be Spiderman wrong. The end. You need to be spoonfed like a DC baby? Missed Civil War? OMG just say you hate Marvel Studios and be done with it. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 15, 2018 17:34:09 GMT
They got his motivation to be Spiderman wrong. The end. How? Uncle Ben is clearly not around and its affected Peter greatly, hence why he's loyal to his community and understands that he has a responsibility to those around him, in other words - great power, great responsibility. Just because it isn't spelled out doesn't mean its there. And thank you for confirming to have also not watched the video. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 15, 2018 17:51:04 GMT
Serious is always better. Deadpool is the only character that should have humor. All the MCU products other than WS and the Netflix stuff is equal to Batman and Robin. ASM had the perfect tone for Spidey. No, serious is not always better it only is when you are dealing with a character who is supposed to be that way to begin with. As Blockbusted already mentioned look at 2015's Fan4stic; the Fantastic Four is not a brand that usually lends itself to being "dark and gritty" and the decision for it to be so backfired greatly. Fantastic Four should be closer to The Incredibles if anything but considering that has humor in it as well I figure you are not a fan of that movie at all, huh? And equal to Batman & Robin? Get the heck out of here. You mean almost the MCU's entire library is on par with one of the worst comic book movies ever made and almost killed people's interest in superheroes? Get out more, comedy is natural part in everyday life. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Jan 15, 2018 19:53:00 GMT
In this video essay uploader captainmidnight explains how some of the creative choices behind Spider-Man: Homecoming improved upon elements from the past films and made them more true to the spirit of the comic. linkI think he makes some pretty good points, especially in his defense of Peter's high-tech suit. It allowed the filmmakers to actually use his eyes to emote, and the addition of an AI like "Karen" is a clever idea to go about Peter's endless talking to himself. Its an important character trait but out of concern of coming off as too cheesy and weird the past movies avoided this and made him talk less while wearing the suit. With "Karen" he has something/someone to talk to in costume and we the audience get to understand what makes him tick more. Beyond that, it was also smart move to "ground" the story by and not have the stakes be too big ( Not having everything on the line, making the villain's goals more simpler, etc.). They turned Spider-Man into a shallow show-off whose only motivation for being a hero is to try to impress Tony Stark. That completely betrays the comic book character. He was trying to get into the Avengers. Like in his first appearances where he was trying to get into the Fantastic Four. Since Tony is the leader of the Avengers with Steve gone he goes to the leader to try to get in. |
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