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Post by sariz on Feb 8, 2017 0:11:21 GMT
Lately if a show doesn't get the ratings they want at the beginning they cancell right away.i think A show to get an established audience needs 2 seasons at least or monitor the ratings see if they go up as the show advances maybe not drastically but at least some numbers.
Every show which im intrigued if i should watch it i read it was canceled. first backstrom i saw it was on Netflix checked the ratings and message boards on imdb and all its about being cancelled the first season, then The show created by David Shore teaming up the creator of Breaking Bad and it also failed.
now yesterday that i caught some re runs of House in the commercials i watched Pure Genius being promoted which looked very Housian and obviously got my attention to latter being disappointed since it was cancelled right after the first season.
all these cancelled shows were from Network tv. What is their rush to get the big numebrs right away ? when they have heard of shows which started quite slow and became successful at mid of season one or early season 2.
Examples: i got very late to the House MD party but many of their fans told me it took them almost till they got to Vogler to finally being a successful show, on one of the watch Mojo video i heard them saying Breaking bad got their big success in season 2.
Is there too much loose of Money if they don't get certain ratings? you can't decide to abandon a show after just one season it's crazy and it's also crazy me defending these shows without having seeing them but i get interested in them and when i got to the messge boards and reviews they diss encourage me from watching them.
unlike movies shows need time to get worth pf mouth and find their audiences there should be two seasons guaranteed contracts because on this peace no single new series will survive on Networks tv.
the most surprising is backstrom because it was Fox who cancelled them and they were the ones which gave House a real chance they were the ones who waited some time so the series would find its feet and it paid so why weren't they as patient with Backstrom ?
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Feb 8, 2017 0:29:48 GMT
A number of the hit shows of the 20th century took a while to catch on. Both "Cheers" and "Hill Street Blues" got terrible ratings in their first season, but they later proved very popular. (mind you, there have always been series cancelled too soon)
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Post by sariz on Feb 8, 2017 0:43:19 GMT
A number of the hit shows of the 20th century took a while to catch on. Both "Cheers" and "Hill Street Blues" got terrible ratings in their first season, but they later proved very popular. (mind you, there have always been series cancelled too soon) Thanks for giving me more examples to my point its so unfair to cancel a show right after the first season. It really doesn't make sense and you are talking about Cheers which latter became a phenomenon. so what makes Networks to decide so fast if a show deserves a second season? The norm should be two seasons if they don't work ok Cancel them but just 1 season try is not fair. |
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Post by Blue on Feb 8, 2017 1:45:45 GMT
I liked the days when producers worked on tweaking the show to fix the problems rather than just cancel outright. I have a policy where I don't watch a show as it's starting anymore. I wait until it's established a few seasons and is already a hit. Too many shows in the past I've watched with dedication and then they get cancelled on a damned cliffhanger.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 4:46:23 GMT
Network TV blows
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Post by sariz on Feb 8, 2017 6:31:13 GMT
I liked the days when producers worked on tweaking the show to fix the problems rather than just cancel outright. I have a policy where I don't watch a show as it's starting anymore. I wait until it's established a few seasons and is already a hit. Too many shows in the past I've watched with dedication and then they get cancelled on a damned cliffhanger. That's the best way to go, wait until a show has been established as a hit otherwise is a waste of time and agreed on how it would be much better to fix a show than canceling them. |
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Post by Blue on Feb 8, 2017 6:38:49 GMT
Well said. I am huge supporter of streaming services like Netflix. |
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Post by vespertine on Feb 8, 2017 11:10:47 GMT
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Post by sweetpea on Feb 8, 2017 11:50:32 GMT
Networks are a business first & foremost. They unfortunately look to Nielsen ratings first. If people don't watch, they're not making money. It's viewers that need to give shows a chance. Too many times I read posts by people who make comments about a show that hasn't even aired yet. Hate this actor, hate the premise, same old same old. One-I never go by other reviewers. I take the time to look up what the show is to be about, if interests me, I watch. I always give a show a few episodes to find it's footing. Pilots are notoriously not that great. I read posts where people give up after 10-20minutes. Why did they bother??? I'm sorry, you cannot really get a glimpse into the story in that short amount of time. Then come those who need to nitpick network shows. Personally, I watch to be entertained. Not to make sure the doctor says the correct terms. They don't have the budget cable & premium shows have. So yea, things will not be perfect. But the way some people are, they compare them to the cable/premium shows.
I told myself a couple years ago not to watch newbie shows until they get a 2nd season. I lied to myself. It never works, & I get bummed a lot because of it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 12:23:02 GMT
If I remember correctly a lot of new shows used to get started over the summer to test them a little and see how they go. It's like the music industry, bands used to start off playing in small clubs and then when they would get signed they would have a few albums to prove themselves. Now they have one chance and if they don't get to the Top 10 first single they are gone.
It's all about money and a lack of patience.
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Post by sariz on Feb 8, 2017 19:22:52 GMT
Networks are a business first & foremost. They unfortunately look to Nielsen ratings first. If people don't watch, they're not making money. It's viewers that need to give shows a chance. Too many times I read posts by people who make comments about a show that hasn't even aired yet. Hate this actor, hate the premise, same old same old. One-I never go by other reviewers. I take the time to look up what the show is to be about, if interests me, I watch. I always give a show a few episodes to find it's footing. Pilots are notoriously not that great. I read posts where people give up after 10-20minutes. Why did they bother??? I'm sorry, you cannot really get a glimpse into the story in that short amount of time. Then come those who need to nitpick network shows. Personally, I watch to be entertained. Not to make sure the doctor says the correct terms. They don't have the budget cable & premium shows have. So yea, things will not be perfect. But the way some people are, they compare them to the cable/premium shows. I told myself a couple years ago not to watch newbie shows until they get a 2nd season. I lied to myself. It never works, & I get bummed a lot because of it. ...................... i think its both which need to give a new show a real chance, you can't give up on 20 minutes that's crazy it needs at least 3 episodes to know if you are into it and the tv Networks need time to find their audiences. its crazy to look for the big numbers on the Pilot and sometimes one season is not enough: House got established a few episodes before Vogler it was very close to get the axe but they waited a bitt more and the show became a hit. breaking bad started to be really successful in season and last but not least Cheers. It started badly and with some time it became a big phenomenon and still Networks don't get it. The ratings are important and i understand its a buisness but they need to give shows some time to become popular and more fans here from them. And like I said before the ones who dissapoint me the most is FOX they saw the rewards of waiting with House, why didn't they gave a chance to backstrom? You can understand CBS and others a little more but not FOX who saw what happened when you give a new show a real chance. |
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Post by Dontrocktheboat on Feb 11, 2017 19:30:36 GMT
Audiences aren't patient and give a show time. If it has a couple bad eps start saying goodbye
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