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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jan 23, 2018 23:15:40 GMT
Best actor, Best picture, best director, best original screenplay. Not bad as the Oscars don't usually give too many nods to the horror genre.
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Post by James on Jan 23, 2018 23:53:25 GMT
That is quite the achievement. Who knew that even a horror comedy would get this much Oscar nods?
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jan 24, 2018 0:15:31 GMT
That is quite the achievement. Who knew that even a horror comedy would get this much Oscar nods? Now I'm wondering why 'Shaun of the Dead' and 'Tucker and Dale vs Evil' were shunned by the academy.  |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 25, 2018 11:39:38 GMT
Best actor, Best picture, best director, best original screenplay. Not bad as the Oscars don't usually give too many nods to the horror genre. If it was pretty much the same film, but had no black actors, would it get the same praise? Without the current political climate, it would not be recognized by the Oscars due to their bias against horror movies, sure. However, it would deserve to be, and thankfully it is. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 25, 2018 14:45:26 GMT
Without the current political climate, it would not be recognized by the Oscars due to their bias against horror movies, sure. However, it would deserve to be, and thankfully it is. Well, they have nominated The Shape Of Water, which also has horror elements. I wouldn't associate The Shape of Water with horror, but either way, it's a pretty leftwing movie itself. |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 25, 2018 14:52:54 GMT
I haven't seen The Shape of Water yet, but from my understanding it's not an out and out horror movie, and the love for it has to do, at least a little bit, with some career recognition for Guillermo Del Toro.
Get Out is a perfectly good horror film, but there's no denying that politics play into the academy attention for it. Not that that's unusual. So much of the academy awards is political. There are campaigns for and against films and individuals every year. But the love for Get Out is a little absurd. There's no question that it was a well loved movie, and a runaway hit at the box office, but I don't think I'd even say it was the best horror film of last year, let alone the last 20 some odd years since the academy has recognized horror at the awards. It's just simply not the kind of movie they'd typically recognize. The social climate, and the major and highly aggressive awards campaign have clearly worked in its favor.
I came away from the movie more interested in what Jordan Peele was going to do next than I was taken with the film itself.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 25, 2018 23:26:25 GMT
I wouldn't associate The Shape of Water with horror, but either way, it's a pretty leftwing movie itself. I haven't seen the film yet, but it's roots appeared grounded in the horror genre. As for being a "left-wing" film, I would've thought most of the best ones are. Are you saying that "left-wing" wouldn't usually endorse horror, but "right-wing" would? There's a smidge of 50s monster movie, but it's more rooted in fantasy and fairy tales. And no, I'm saying Shape of Water being nominated doesn't contradict my stance that Get Out was recognized in spite of being horror for its politics because Shape of Water too is political. |
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jan 26, 2018 2:02:13 GMT
Best actor, Best picture, best director, best original screenplay. Not bad as the Oscars don't usually give too many nods to the horror genre. If it was pretty much the same film, but had no black actors, would it get the same praise? I actually just made a post on the politics board. This is it: 6.5/10 but I like horror movies. Possible Academy diversity thing as horror movies don't get many nominations especially in the big categories at all but who knows. I'd prefer this nominated than 'Shakespeare in Love' or that type of film. No offense to fans of that film of course. |
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jan 26, 2018 3:57:23 GMT
I actually just made a post on the politics board. This is it: 6.5/10 but I like horror movies. Possible Academy diversity thing as horror movies don't get many nominations especially in the big categories at all but who knows. I'd prefer this nominated than 'Shakespeare in Love' or that type of film. No offense to fans of that film of course.I would have preferred to have seen a stunningly presented and intelligent sci-fi film like BLADE RUNNER 2049 get nominated, or an adult edged and brooding superhero film like LOGAN. Awards are always going to be selective and everyone thinks this or that should be nominated but were shunned. It would be interesting to see what horror films in the last 20 years have received as much Academy attention as 'Get Out'. Then you do have to think of the #oscarssowhite movement and the boycott and ask is this really why all of a sudden 'Get Out' got these top category nominations. It probably did have something to do with it. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 26, 2018 4:14:13 GMT
There's a smidge of 50s monster movie, but it's more rooted in fantasy and fairy tales. And no, I'm saying Shape of Water being nominated doesn't contradict my stance that Get Out was recognized in spite of being horror for its politics because Shape of Water too is political. So they are both politically themed or charged as a subtext, would you call GET OUT left wing politics too? Actually, it's mostly a critique of the liberal elite. Of course, the right-wing are largely dismissive of anything dealing with white racism, while the left are largely the opposite, so that's pretty much gone unnoticed by both sides. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 26, 2018 4:49:06 GMT
Actually, it's mostly a critique of the liberal elite. Of course, the right-wing are largely dismissive of anything dealing with white racism, while the left are largely the opposite, so that's pretty much gone unnoticed by both sides. I am not quite following you. So if Get Out is a critique of the liberal elite—c riticism can be either constructive or negative—is the racism in the film, perpetrated by what you would consider left wing antagonists, or right wing? Left-wing antagonists. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 26, 2018 5:28:39 GMT
I can't comment any further, as I haven't seen the film yet. Is it right wing propaganda? It's more saying that there are different kinds of racism, and that it's not just the right wing or Southern types that are guilty. |
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jan 26, 2018 15:58:11 GMT
I can't comment any further, as I haven't seen the film yet. Is it right wing propaganda? I saw it as sort of having a go at liberals who have a 'holier than thou' attitude in regards to racism. |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 27, 2018 21:26:22 GMT
Because it makes them feel good to recognize that in themselves, or because they actually liked the movie, or didn't understand it.
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Post by MrFurious on Mar 5, 2018 4:00:56 GMT
Just won an Oscar. Really pissing me off having to wait till Oct to see this, I go 11 months without horrors
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Post by Shays rebelling on Mar 5, 2018 5:06:31 GMT
Best actor, Best picture, best director, best original screenplay. Not bad as the Oscars don't usually give too many nods to the horror genre. All won Oscars The Exorcist Silence Of the Lambs ALIEN/ALIEN Sleepy Hollow Rosemary's Baby The Fly Misery Black Swan An American Wearwolf in London Jaws The Omen Bram Stokers's Dracula Whatever happened to Baby Jane Phantom of the Opera Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Mar 5, 2018 13:06:26 GMT
Just won an Oscar. Really pissing me off having to wait till Oct to see this, I go 11 months without horrors Why? You certainly don't HAVE to. That seems self imposed. |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Mar 5, 2018 13:11:45 GMT
Best actor, Best picture, best director, best original screenplay. Not bad as the Oscars don't usually give too many nods to the horror genre. All won Oscars The Exorcist Silence Of the Lambs ALIEN/ALIEN Sleepy Hollow Rosemary's Baby The Fly Misery Black Swan An American Wearwolf in London Jaws The Omen Bram Stokers's Dracula Whatever happened to Baby Jane Phantom of the Opera Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde That's true. But hardly any of those get into best picture or director categories. Cinematography, production design, editing, sound, and other categories that they see as technical categories are easier for them to award in the genre. But only a handful of those titles were taken seriously enough to be included into the major award categories. Before this year Black Swan, I believe, was the last nominee in the genre for best pic and director before this year. Before that I believe it was The Sixth Sense, and before that I believe it was Silence of the Lambs. Kind of big gaps there, but maybe it's changing a bit. |
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Post by MrFurious on Mar 5, 2018 14:08:10 GMT
Just won an Oscar. Really pissing me off having to wait till Oct to see this, I go 11 months without horrors Why? You certainly don't HAVE to. That seems self imposed. It makes October more exciting to look forward too. Right now I think Get Out is about a couple of Nazi's torturing their daughters boyfriend, I could be wrong but I have plenty other non horrors to watch till then |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Mar 5, 2018 14:50:28 GMT
It survived a huge backlash to claim an award for Best Screenplay. Good job. No it didn't. It had enormous good will behind it. Any backlash your perceiving is imaginary. |
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