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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 30, 2018 4:52:29 GMT
Not only is it such a well-known line that everyone I’ve spoken to seems to know it, but we have undeniable proof that just about everyone in Britain knows it—it was the title of the movie there. Remarkable that they’d use such a “little-known” title, don’t you think? EDIT: Oh, pfui, why am I even bothering? This is just silly. Too be fair the fact we used that title also is because we had our own show & film called "The Avengers" which is unrelated, but the fact that 70m people know the film as Avengers Assemble disproved DC fans claim know one associates that line with the film.
Yeah it is silly to argue with him if you expect to achieve anything, but it's also fun and a cathartic release yelling at DC-Fan for being a moron is like punching a heavy bag they do afterall have about the same level of intelligence, except a heavy bag is full of sand, DC-Fan is full of kaka 
This thread isn't about movie titles or taglines. The tagline for Superman: The Movie was "You'll believe a man can fly." The tagline for GoldenEye was "You know the name. You know the number." The tagline for Gladiator was "A Hero will Rise." But none of those lines were ever spoken in those movies.
This thread is about iconic quotes that were spoken in movies or TV series. And given the fact that "Avengers Assemble" was never spoken in any MCU movie and only spoken in an animated TV series (which most people don't watch), it's not iconic because most people have never heard that quote.
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Post by dazz on Jan 30, 2018 4:57:28 GMT
Avengers Assemble is the Avengers signature line it's why when The Avengers came out and no one specifically uttered the words people questioned as to why, it's the official tagline of the film as well as the alternative name for it used in 2 countries equating to 70 million people and over $80m in ticket sales, so saying no one knows it is flat out bullshit you retard.
If you base it off of sales Avengers was seen by over 180m people, that means 180m people minimum saw the advertising that had that quote, less than 40m people saw Alien in theate but the tagline "in space no one can hear you scream" is one of the most remembered in history and people quote it, so the fact it wasn't uttered in the films doesn't matter, it is a quote known by millions possibly billions of people and is a quote from a TV show, so it counts you sad little shitter.
1st, you can't declare how many people saw an ad based on how many people saw a movie. Many people don't watch trailers because they don't want to be spoiled.
2nd, the title of this thread is "Most iconic lines/quotes in superhero movies/TV shows". "Avengers Assemble" was never said in any movie and the only place where it was said was in an animated TV series, which most people don't watch.
3rd, like I said in my previous post, the 2 Superman quotes have been used for more than half a century in other numerous mainstream movies and TV series so most people are familiar with it, but "Avengers Assemble" isn't used anywhere outside of the comics and the animated TV series so most people have never even heard that quote before.
1: I know because more people see the advertising in some form or fashion than actually see the films, because you need to actively try to see the film to buy a ticket where as you can hate anything comic related but still see the advertising because it's around wether you want to see it or not, 180m tickets sold means well above that saw the films advertising which featured the films official tagline "Avengers Assemble".
2: Yes and as it is a well known quote/tagline for the Avengers brand, has been used in multiple TV shows, it counts, now if you said most iconic scenes/lines in TV & Movie maybe you would have a point as that dictates a specific utterance of the line which itself is iconic, but you didn't and therefor the line fits both criteria, loophole bitch look it up.
3: You aren't even quoting the right fucking show those lines were used in the 1940's animated shorts, and here shows your hypocrisy, most people don't associate those lines with that show or any specific show, it's a Superman line attributed to the Superman brand, not a specific show or film much like Avengers Assemble, most people don't even know about the show you *wrongly* attributed the quote to, so if it's just about having been used in a TV show or film regardless of the fact if anyone knows where it comes from then the Avengers line fits also, but you are a hypocritical lying sack of snake faeceswith a peanut where a brain should be so....wait what was my point again?...oh yeah fuck you  .
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 30, 2018 4:58:39 GMT
Not only is it such a well-known line that everyone I’ve spoken to seems to know it, but we have undeniable proof that just about everyone in Britain knows it—it was the title of the movie there. Remarkable that they’d use such a “little-known” title, don’t you think? EDIT: Oh, pfui, why am I even bothering? This is just silly. Too be fair the fact we used that title also is because we had our own show & film called "The Avengers" which is unrelated, but the fact that 70m people know the film as Avengers Assemble disproved DC fans claim know one associates that line with the film.
Yeah it is silly to argue with him if you expect to achieve anything, but it's also fun and a cathartic release yelling at DC-Fan for being a moron is like punching a heavy bag they do afterall have about the same level of intelligence, except a heavy bag is full of sand, DC-Fan is full of kaka
Right, that was what I was trying to say—awareness of the title and the ad. (I love The Avengers show, John Steed and Mrs. Peel.) I’m not a big Marvel fan and I really disliked The Avengers, the superhero movie, but that’s irrelevant: DC-Fan’s case is illogical, one-sided, and just kinda silly. |
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Post by dazz on Jan 30, 2018 5:03:43 GMT
Too be fair the fact we used that title also is because we had our own show & film called "The Avengers" which is unrelated, but the fact that 70m people know the film as Avengers Assemble disproved DC fans claim know one associates that line with the film.
Yeah it is silly to argue with him if you expect to achieve anything, but it's also fun and a cathartic release yelling at DC-Fan for being a moron is like punching a heavy bag they do afterall have about the same level of intelligence, except a heavy bag is full of sand, DC-Fan is full of kaka
Right, that was what I was trying to say—awareness of the title and the ad. (I love The Avengers show, John Steed and Mrs. Peel.) I’m not a big Marvel fan and I really disliked The Avengers, the superhero movie, but that’s irrelevant: DC-Fan’s case is illogical, one-sided, and just kinda silly. You are so much nicer than most of us on here, to the rest of us his arguments are often described much the same way as he himself as in fucking stupid, but it's nice to see some people have some decorum and dignity around here, me on the other hand I call a spade a spade and a twat a twat, speaking of which DC-Fan you are a twat, that is all.  |
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 30, 2018 8:57:49 GMT
Ok so you basically admit to creating a rule out of thin air. Gotcha. No, the rule has always been that the quote has to be iconic. Avengers Assemble isn't iconic since the only place where you can reference the quote is from an obscure animated TV series, which most people don't watch. The rule was that the line needed to be iconic. "Avengers Assemble" is an iconic line, period. Thus it is included. It is that simple. Any further excuses on your part is just further proof of your trollish behavior. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 30, 2018 9:06:26 GMT
No, the rule has always been that the quote has to be iconic. Avengers Assemble isn't iconic since the only place where you can reference the quote is from an obscure animated TV series, which most people don't watch. The rule was that the line needed to be iconic. "Avengers Assemble" is an iconic line, period. Thus it is included. It is that simple. Any further excuses on your part is just further proof of your trollish behavior. No, to be iconic means that most people are familiar with it. Since most people have never head "Avengers Assemble" and aren't familiar with that quote, "Avengers Assemble" is NOT iconic. Period. END OF DISCUSSION. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 30, 2018 10:40:20 GMT
Not if you understand the meaning of words. "Iconic" comes from religious icons, in a wider sense it's usually defined as " widely known/established and acknowledged especially for distinctive excellence". However, neither Martha nor I'm Marry Poppins y'all would fall under this, not even close. These quotes may currently be popular Movie quotes amongst CBM nerds but they hardly qualify as "excellence" nor are they widely known and acknowledged outside of some CBM fanboys - the lines rather serve as mock lines for bad filmmaking. I never saw somebody use these in reverence, if at all they are anti-iconic. QED While it's true that most things deemed "iconic" are recognizable because of positive qualities, that is not a hard rule and there have been instances where something became iconic more due to being infamous rather than famous. For example, Adolf Hitler is a political icon and yet he's largely considered one of the vilest people who ever lived. The cross or crucifix is one of the most recognizable religious symbolic icons and yet it is an instrument of torture and death. In any case, you're the only person I know of who associated the line "I'm Marry Poppins y'all" to something negative. And in the greater scheme of things, your opinion means jack. It's still a widely recognizable phrase given the short span of time it's been out. I don't consider it iconic at the moment, but mainly because it's very new, same with Martha. But considering how widely recognizable they've become in the short span of time they've been out, I can easily see them becoming very iconic lines in the years to come. It's correct that it's not about my opinion but agreed definition of terms. Thus why I quoted the Merriam-Webster.
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/iconic
If you look deeper you will find out that iconic - based on the origin of the word - applies to pictures, brands or image psychology, not so much phrases.
Even if mere quotes are coined iconic, these quoted ones are not for lack of long term establishment, recognition and reverence. They are just currently popular mock quotes that will be forgotten soon because they are just pop references without substance. I never saw somebody use either phrase in reverence (why should they they are cringeworthy and juvenile).
Phrases that might qualify are iconic (better say famous, great or "best"): Franky my dear, I don't give a damn, May the Force be with you etc -... see at Ranker www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-greatest-movie-quotes-of-all-time
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Post by dazz on Jan 30, 2018 11:18:19 GMT
The rule was that the line needed to be iconic. "Avengers Assemble" is an iconic line, period. Thus it is included. It is that simple. Any further excuses on your part is just further proof of your trollish behavior. No, to be iconic means that most people are familiar with it. Since most people have never head "Avengers Assemble" and aren't familiar with that quote, "Avengers Assemble" is NOT iconic. Period. END OF DISCUSSION.No it's not because you as usual are WRONG most people have heard of "Avengers Assemble" like I said to you prior had you stated that it needing to be a iconic reading of said line then maybe you would have a point that Avengers Assemble does not qualify, as you are right it has never been uttered in a major film or TV show that most people would have seen or recalled, but then that disqualifies the Superman quotes as no one remembers those lines for that show, it's either the line is iconic and has been used in a film or show or it needs to be an iconic reading of the line, to discount Avengers means to discount Superman you feeble minded prat.
The fact that the quote is the films global tagline, the alternative name for the film in countries of a combined population of 70m people, been used in multiple shows that air globally and is even the title of a current animated show also seen in at least half a dozen countries all point to many MANY people knowing the line, hell the fact it wasn't said in the films yet is actually a thing pointed out in articles and such again says just how iconic that line is, hell if it's so meaningless why did they tease the line in the 2nd film? you don't tease a line or a reference that "hardly anyone" knows about.
Also I pose this question to you, is the reveal of Vader as Lukes father in Empire an iconic scene? yes? is "Luke I am Your Father" an iconic quote? yes? is however the line in said scene said quote? no it's fucking not but most people think it is, that's the other thing quotes and lines don't need to be accurate to be iconic, so to say Avengers Assemble is not an iconic line just because it wasn't said in the films doesn't mean dick you hypocritical halfwit.
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Post by sostie on Jan 30, 2018 11:26:25 GMT
"Behold...a Magic Boat"
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Post by damngumby on Jan 30, 2018 14:38:48 GMT
No, the rule has always been that the quote has to be iconic. Avengers Assemble isn't iconic since the only place where you can reference the quote is from an obscure animated TV series, which most people don't watch. The rule was that the line needed to be iconic. "Avengers Assemble" is an iconic line, period. Thus it is included. It is that simple. Any further excuses on your part is just further proof of your trollish behavior. "Avengers Assemble" is so iconic that it's been parodied by Ron Burgundy. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 30, 2018 14:52:07 GMT
The rule was that the line needed to be iconic. "Avengers Assemble" is an iconic line, period. Thus it is included. It is that simple. Any further excuses on your part is just further proof of your trollish behavior. No, to be iconic means that most people are familiar with it. Since most people have never head "Avengers Assemble" and aren't familiar with that quote, "Avengers Assemble" is NOT iconic. Period. END OF DISCUSSION.Except majority of people are familiar with the line, which makes it iconic. Thanks for admitting you're a troll. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 31, 2018 5:03:25 GMT
No, to be iconic means that most people are familiar with it. Since most people have never head "Avengers Assemble" and aren't familiar with that quote, "Avengers Assemble" is NOT iconic. Period. END OF DISCUSSION.Except majority of people are familiar with the line, which makes it iconic. Thanks for admitting you're a troll. Nope. Most people have never heard that obscure line and aren't familiar with that obscure line. So that disqualifies it from being iconic. |
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Post by dazz on Jan 31, 2018 5:45:31 GMT
Except majority of people are familiar with the line, which makes it iconic. Thanks for admitting you're a troll. Nope. Most people have never heard that obscure line and aren't familiar with that obscure line. So that disqualifies it from being iconic. Stating opinion with nothing to back it up does not make it fact, just makes you a twat.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 31, 2018 14:56:13 GMT
Except majority of people are familiar with the line, which makes it iconic. Thanks for admitting you're a troll. Nope. Most people have never heard that obscure line and aren't familiar with that obscure line. So that disqualifies it from being iconic. Wrong. Most people recognize the line. Why do you keep lying? |
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