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Post by dnno1 on Feb 2, 2018 0:28:36 GMT
And? I'm just telling you the TV series was called Shazam. Do they? And this assumption is based on what? So what Are they really. I assume many people will not give a fuck, and those that do care will already know the situation. The only people who will really care are lawyers This really was a pointless response by you. Why not devote some time to actual posts that need your response...like the Wonder Woman Oscar nominations "snub", or Black Lightning's name actually referring to his race? Just for the record, he was called Captain Marvel even though his name was not used in the title. People knew him as Captain Marvel and will more than likely question why he is not using that name anymore. Obviously, marvel is preempting the use of the name by now producing an eponymous film.
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Post by sostie on Feb 2, 2018 0:37:09 GMT
Just for the record, he was called Captain Marvel even though his name was not used in the title. People knew him as Captain Marvel and will more than likely question why he is not using that name anymore. Obviously, marvel is preempting the use of the name by now producing an eponymous film. I know...as I said, I was pointing out the TV show was called Shazam, and many assume that is his name. As for Marvel pre-empting DC...they owned the name before DC did. Marvel has owned the name since the 60s. DC didn't even own the character until the 70s
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 2, 2018 1:23:17 GMT
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 2, 2018 5:15:26 GMT
Shazam! is what he says to become Captain Marvel. ] And? I'm just telling you the TV series was called Shazam. The TV series was called Shazam!, but the character was named "Captain Marvel".
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 2, 2018 5:33:43 GMT
I didn't even know there was a Captain Marvel series in the 70's Yes, in the 1970s, a company called Filmation had paid a licensing fee to DC to make a weekly, half-hour TV series starring the Captain Marvel character. The show was titled Shazam! but the character was called Captain Marvel. The 1st season of Shazam! was very popular among young boys so Filmation wanted to make a weekly, half-hour superhero TV series for young girls. Filmation decided not to use Mary Marvel because 1) they didn't want a character that was too similar to Captain Marvel and 2) they didn't want to pay another licensing fee to DC to use the Mary Marvel character. So Filmation created a brand new superhero named Isis. Isis premiered on TV in September 1975, making it the 1st weekly superhero TV series with a female lead character. The Lynda Carter Wonder Woman TV series would premiere 2 months later. Isis would later appear in DC Comics, making her 1 of the few comic book characters who made their 1st appearance on a TV show before appearing in a comic book. Other characters who made their 1st appearance on a TV show before appearing in a comic book are Harley Quinn (1st appearance was on Batman: The Animated Series), Livewire (1st appearance was on Superman: The Animated Series), and Chloe Sullivan (1st appearance was on the Smallville TV series). Filmation broadcast Isis immediately after Shazam! and promoted the 2 shows together as The Shazam!/Isis Power Hour. During the 2 shows' runs, Isis appeared on 3 episodes of Shazam! and Captain Marvel appeared on 3 episodes of Isis, making that the 2nd shared universe for superheroes on TV. The 1st shared universe for superheroes on TV was Batman and the Green Hornet in the 1960s.
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Post by scabab on Feb 2, 2018 16:12:27 GMT
That's interesting I didn't think he was all that well known. You don't hear so much about him anymore.
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Post by dnno1 on Feb 2, 2018 18:35:54 GMT
I know...as I said, I was pointing out the TV show was called Shazam, and many assume that is his name. As for Marvel pre-empting DC...they owned the name before DC did. Marvel has owned the name since the 60s. DC didn't even own the character until the 70s I don't know if that is all together true. People who watched the show would know that his name was Captain Marvel. In fact, people questioned when they changed his name to Shazam for the Injustice: Gods Among Us video game.
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Post by dnno1 on Feb 2, 2018 18:42:51 GMT
I'll tell ya, that Billy Batson must be immortal.
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Post by sostie on Feb 2, 2018 19:49:31 GMT
I know...as I said, I was pointing out the TV show was called Shazam, and many assume that is his name. As for Marvel pre-empting DC...they owned the name before DC did. Marvel has owned the name since the 60s. DC didn't even own the character until the 70s I don't know if that is all together true. People who watched the show would know that his name was Captain Marvel. In fact, people questioned when they changed his name to Shazam for the Injustice: Gods Among Us video game. Well I remember when I was a kid I would see ads in comics for other comics and merchandise...they were not allowed to call him Captain Marvel and it always said "Shazam"...I always assumed that was his name. It wasn't until the 80's when I got into Alan Moore & Miracleman that I read about the history of the "Captain Marvel" name that that was actually Shazam's name Jeff Johns himself said the reason he was called Shazam in his relaunch was because of his assumed name: LINKAs for the TV show...personally never saw it...don't think it was ever shown in the UK. But I'm sure the number of those that do still remember the show and that sort of detail, and are not familiar with the history of the name, is small enough not to be of any concern whatsoever. What scenario are we looking at exactly? Somone going to see Captain Marvel and not getting the character they remember from decades ago? I think perhaps the fact that Captain Marvel is a woman may alert them to the fact that it may not be the same character.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 3, 2018 4:17:25 GMT
I know...as I said, I was pointing out the TV show was called Shazam, and many assume that is his name. As for Marvel pre-empting DC...they owned the name before DC did. Marvel has owned the name since the 60s. DC didn't even own the character until the 70s I don't know if that is all together true. Actually, Marvel stole the name from Fawcett Comics. The original Captain Marvel was created by Fawcett Comics and first appeared in 1938. But Fawcett Comics stopped publishing comics in the early 1950s. In 1972, DC licensed the Captain Marvel character from Fawcett, but Marvel had taken out a trademark on the "Captain Marvel" name in 1967. So DC isn't allowed to use "Captain Marvel" on the cover of their comics, but DC can still refer to the character as Captain Marvel within the comic book. That's apparently what Filmation did with the TV series. The TV series was titled Shazam! but the character was still called Captain Marvel.
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Post by sostie on Feb 3, 2018 14:39:28 GMT
I don't know if that is all together true. Actually, Marvel stole the name from Fawcett Comics. The original Captain Marvel was created by Fawcett Comics and first appeared in 1938. But Fawcett Comics stopped publishing comics in the early 1950s. In 1972, DC licensed the Captain Marvel character from Fawcett Actually Marvel legally licenced the trademark Captain Marvel in the 60's after Fawcett stopped publishing their comic. And in your rabid little Marvel vs DC fervour you seem to neglect why Fawcett stopped publishing. It was because DC sued Fawcett claiming Captain Marvel breached Superman's copyright because he was similar (no sour grapes there seeing Captain Marvel was outselling Superman at the time). This resulted in killing off the character and eventually bankrupting Fawcett, resulting in the loss of many peoples livliehood. Begs the question, why did DC later buy the Shazam character to publish themselves seeing they considered it to be too similar to Superman to be published by anyone else?
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Post by dnno1 on Feb 5, 2018 16:14:15 GMT
It's true. Marvel got the copyright on Captain Marvel once the name went into the public domain. Fawcett Comics decided not to publish the title after settling with National Periodical Publications over their copyright infringement law suit.
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Post by sostie on Feb 6, 2018 21:29:30 GMT
DC-Fan owned again...DC-Fan stays silent again
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Post by dnno1 on Feb 10, 2018 16:40:55 GMT
Actually, Marvel stole the name from Fawcett Comics. The original Captain Marvel was created by Fawcett Comics and first appeared in 1938. But Fawcett Comics stopped publishing comics in the early 1950s. In 1972, DC licensed the Captain Marvel character from Fawcett Actually Marvel legally licenced the trademark Captain Marvel in the 60's after Fawcett stopped publishing their comic. And in your rabid little Marvel vs DC fervour you seem to neglect why Fawcett stopped publishing. It was because DC sued Fawcett claiming Captain Marvel breached Superman's copyright because he was similar (no sour grapes there seeing Captain Marvel was outselling Superman at the time). This resulted in killing off the character and eventually bankrupting Fawcett, resulting in the loss of many peoples livliehood. Begs the question, why did DC later buy the Shazam character to publish themselves seeing they considered it to be too similar to Superman to be published by anyone else? Look, they might have used the legal system to do it, but history will tell you who the real Captain Marvel really is and Marvel actually stole that name. Just for the record, DC licensed the Marvel family characters from Faucett Comics in 1972 and eventually bought the rights to them in 1991.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 10, 2018 19:30:38 GMT
DC-Fan owned again...DC-Fan stays silent again Nope. You got owned again. Because I'm correct in saying that Marvel stole the "Captain Marvel" name from Fawcett Comics.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 10, 2018 19:32:41 GMT
Actually Marvel legally licenced the trademark Captain Marvel in the 60's after Fawcett stopped publishing their comic. And in your rabid little Marvel vs DC fervour you seem to neglect why Fawcett stopped publishing. It was because DC sued Fawcett claiming Captain Marvel breached Superman's copyright because he was similar (no sour grapes there seeing Captain Marvel was outselling Superman at the time). This resulted in killing off the character and eventually bankrupting Fawcett, resulting in the loss of many peoples livliehood. Begs the question, why did DC later buy the Shazam character to publish themselves seeing they considered it to be too similar to Superman to be published by anyone else? Look, they might have used the legal system to do it, but history will tell you who the real Captain Marvel really is and Marvel actually stole that name. That's correct. Fawcett Comics created the first Captain Marvel character and Marvel stole the character name. That's a fact that isn't in dispute. And that's basically plagiarism - stealing someone else's idea and passing it off as your own.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 20:04:33 GMT
That's interesting I didn't think he was all that well known. You don't hear so much about him anymore. When he first came out, he was more popular than Superman. DC worked fast and hard to acquire the character and bury him so he couldn't threaten Superman anymore. Then back in the 80s they decided to utilize him more often.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 20:05:05 GMT
Look, they might have used the legal system to do it, but history will tell you who the real Captain Marvel really is and Marvel actually stole that name. That's correct. Fawcett Comics created the first Captain Marvel character and Marvel stole the character name. That's a fact that isn't in dispute. And that's basically plagiarism - stealing someone else's idea and passing it off as your own. Nothing about their Captain Marvel had anything to do with the character DC bought and buried from Fawcett.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 10, 2018 20:07:44 GMT
That's correct. Fawcett Comics created the first Captain Marvel character and Marvel stole the character name. That's a fact that isn't in dispute. And that's basically plagiarism - stealing someone else's idea and passing it off as your own. Nothing about their Captain Marvel had anything to do with the character DC bought and buried from Fawcett. Except for the most important part - the character's name. Marvel stealing the "Captain Marvel" name from Fawcett Comics is equivalent to Burger King selling a burger called the Big Mac or Popeye's calling their chicken "finger-licking' good".
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 20:15:51 GMT
Nothing about their Captain Marvel had anything to do with the character DC bought and buried from Fawcett. Except for the most important part - the character's name. That's not important, at all. They just figured since their company was called "Marvel" they should have a character called Captain Marvel. DC did such a good job burying the Fawcett version they forgot about him and then figured they'd just keep using the name once someone brought it up because they'd already invested enough time in the character compared to how crappily DC treated him. So once again, Marvel took something DC did poorly make good on it.
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