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Post by permutojoe on Feb 12, 2018 12:46:14 GMT
Okay. Let's save the propaganda institution part for another day. How about let's pay our teachers a living wage if we want a higher level of quality from them. Their role is one of the most important in society, at least if we want our kids to be intelligent critical thinking problem solvers.
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Post by kls on Feb 12, 2018 12:59:05 GMT
Okay. Let's save the propaganda institution part for another day. How about let's pay our teachers a living wage if we want a higher level of quality from them. Their role is one of the most important in society, at least if we want our kids to be intelligent critical thinking problem solvers. I get paid a living wage. Enough to live comfortably even. But it isn't consistent in all regions.
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Post by kls on Feb 12, 2018 13:00:20 GMT
Exactly. I'm constantly working on getting my students to use critical thinking skills. I want them to reason out why they have such and such opinion. Where did it come from? Was the source possibly biased? Did they look at all sides? That is the best approach k. Would you say though, that this approach is now just new millennium way to what was taught before, or has it already been in practice in the teaching profession? I wouldn't call it anything new.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Feb 12, 2018 16:21:27 GMT
I've said for years that rationality should be a part of the basic school curriculum from grade school on. I've never understood the idea of teaching kids what to think but rarely bothering to teach them how to think. That the ignorant are typically the most arrogant is a well-documented phenomena known as Dunning-Kruger effect, where incompetence breeds a lack of self-awareness of one's own limitations. Sadly, the reverse--the most competent are too self-aware and think themselves less competent than they are--is also true. Critical thinking. Yes. It's not an easy thing to teach, especially when you're doing it opposite the "memorize these facts by rote" nature of our public schooling.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 23:14:55 GMT
Was this thread created specifically because I said I liked Erjen's nephilim video or am I just being arrogant? As a sidenote, I like a lot of things I don't believe or that I think are not credible. Nephilim skull videos happen to be one of them.
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Post by goz on Feb 12, 2018 23:22:59 GMT
Was this thread created specifically because I said I liked Erjen's nephilim video or am I just being arrogant? As a sidenote, I like a lot of things I don't believe or that I think are not credible. Nephilim skull videos happen to be one of them. This thread is over 24 hours old, so work it out!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 23:26:15 GMT
Was this thread created specifically because I said I liked Erjen's nephilim video or am I just being arrogant? As a sidenote, I like a lot of things I don't believe or that I think are not credible. Nephilim skull videos happen to be one of them. This thread is over 24 hours old, so work it out! I thought empathy was what atheists relied on. Can't you tell when I'm joking?
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Post by goz on Feb 12, 2018 23:35:27 GMT
This thread is over 24 hours old, so work it out! I thought empathy was what atheists relied on. Can't you tell when I'm joking? Actually no, as Christians are renowned for their lack of it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 23:42:40 GMT
I thought empathy was what atheists relied on. Can't you tell when I'm joking? Actually no, as Christians are renowned for their lack of it!
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 13, 2018 2:19:56 GMT
I've said for years that rationality should be a part of the basic school curriculum from grade school on. I've never understood the idea of teaching kids what to think but rarely bothering to teach them how to think. That the ignorant are typically the most arrogant is a well-documented phenomena known as Dunning-Kruger effect, where incompetence breeds a lack of self-awareness of one's own limitations. Sadly, the reverse--the most competent are too self-aware and think themselves less competent than they are--is also true. Critical thinking. Yes. It's not an easy thing to teach, especially when you're doing it opposite the "memorize these facts by rote" nature of our public schooling. I do think you need both. There's certainly many facts that kids need to know. But along with teaching the facts that science has discovered, how about teaching the thinking behind WHY science works at all, the benefit of empiricism and logic in contrast to the fallibility of human cognition on its own. I mean, there's plenty of facts about our thinking that should be learned to, like the hundreds of biases it comes pre-wired with that will affect every decision we make and question we try to answer. Stuff like science works because it helps to minimize the damaging effects of what our thinking alone does. If you're not teaching kids how to think and how NOT to think, you're not setting them up for a life of good decision making or a life of being able to discover truths on their own.
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