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Post by Admin on Feb 8, 2017 8:29:32 GMT
Hello everyone. With less than two weeks before the closure of IMDb's message boards, it may be time to start weighing some of the alternatives that are currently available. I'd like to address some of the concerns I've been reading about this site and offer some of my own personal thoughts regarding some of the others. First and absolutely foremost, I will never voluntarily close this board. However, since it's technically owned by ProBoards, they have the right to delete it at any time without warning for any reason. Same goes for any site created on ProBoards. With this in mind, I think it's a good idea to either sign up at some of the others or at least bookmark them in case one or more of them closes for whatever reason. Speaking only for myself, I'd like to reiterate once again that my only concern is migration. I honestly have no interest in any kind of personal gain, nor am I going to partake in what appears to be some sort of cut-throat competition for membership. I have no squabbles with the other sites promoting here regardless of their reasons for doing so. I understand that some of them are being run by well-respected and/or well-known members of the IMDb message boards, and that many people may simply prefer the look and layout of one better than another. I believe each of them have their own respective pros and cons, some of which are obvious, and some not so much. Regarding imdforums.com, I've already explained a few of the misunderstandings between Alex and myself, but in the interest of transparency, I feel compelled to refer everyone to this post on IMDb which explains better than I can the differences between the privacy issues of free forums and private servers: About this site specifically, once I'm fairly confident that it will remain standing for a while, I'll put more effort into its appearance and functionality. I see all of your suggestions and complaints and I'm doing the best I can, so please bear with me until we get some per-board moderators elected to help out. I think that should be pushed up higher on the priority list, given that there are over 1,000 members here now. Maybe we can start with the hot topic boards such as politics and religion just to see how well it would work. Otherwise, I could always just promote a few of the members who have generously offered to help out. Thoughts? On a final note, I'd just like to say that in the grand scheme of things, I think this is all rather silly. I just made a forum and so did some other people. I really don't quite understand why this is turning into anything more than that. Perhaps what it all boils down to is a simple matter of there being too many cooks in the kitchen.  -John |
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Post by Christina on Feb 8, 2017 8:48:36 GMT
Thank you so much!  I have saved some other sites like this. This one is the best so far, I know for the Soapbox. |
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Feb 8, 2017 9:53:31 GMT
Quite happy here myself John...
Thanks for setting this up, lots of sports board regs are coming on board...
I don't know if you can, but if possible, might be an idea to do a weekly back up save of the forum, in case pro boards gets rid of it for some reason, to kick start it again elsewhere, perhaps?
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Post by No_Socks_Here on Feb 8, 2017 14:45:22 GMT
Hi John, thanks for setting up this very fine board! I'm a 10 year + member of IMDb and was very glad to see this board up and running so soon. Best of luck, bonne chance a toujours! |
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Post by rebecca on Feb 8, 2017 15:41:04 GMT
Couldn't have said it better myself, John. I think you're doing a great job with this board, and I really appreciate all your efforts.
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Post by Reynard on Feb 8, 2017 15:51:40 GMT
I prefer the more old-fashioned forum look of Internet Media Discussion Boards to those of its competitors. Less rules is also better since there are enough seriously lame Internet forums already.
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Post by zackbop on Feb 8, 2017 16:47:11 GMT
The most important thing a board can have is quality members. Design is nice, and we should definitely try to make the place look presentable, but a pretty forum with no members isn't going to be much fun.
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Post by shinnickneth on Feb 8, 2017 17:05:52 GMT
The website looks great so far! We're all really thankful for all of the hard work that's put into making this possible. I certainly wouldn't know how to make anything that would even resemble this.  |
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Post by shigui on Feb 8, 2017 17:21:07 GMT
I like it here best. I have signed up on others but this is the first one I come to. I don't really like the aggressiveness of the promotion of the others. The atmosphere here is more laid back which I'm sure you disagree with because I'm sure you're working like crazy to get this together. Which I thank you for.
Ok, I just went over there and I want to stay here.
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Post by j2 on Feb 8, 2017 17:38:27 GMT
Hello everyone. With less than two weeks before the closure of IMDb's message boards, it may be time to start weighing some of the alternatives that are currently available. I'd like to address some of the concerns I've been reading about this site and offer some of my own personal thoughts regarding some of the others. First and absolutely foremost, I will never voluntarily close this board. However, since it's technically owned by ProBoards, they have the right to delete it at any time without warning for any reason. Same goes for any site created on ProBoards. With this in mind, I think it's a good idea to either sign up at some of the others or at least bookmark them in case one or more of them closes for whatever reason. Sound advice. Sound concern. Politics. |
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Post by eriknight on Feb 8, 2017 19:37:38 GMT
I have been doing my best to promote IMBD2 on the old IMDB boards because I have spent the greater part of the past week looking and testing other sites and this one just feels right! As far as membership numbers, that is a two-way street, last year's 'The Force Awakens' board showed me what can happen when a board becomes too popular- IT IS A CURSE! don't ever wish for it. It started out with regulars who had fantastic discussions then burned down in flames. So, what this board needs, is just enough dedicated members to keep the discussions lively and interesting. And I am seeing this already. And if these boards do go away for some reason -LOL That is funny, like your old threads last on the Internet? I am going on one zillion gone to digital dust since the beginning of the Internet It's always about the conversation and not popularity!!!! Let's just be a welcoming and interesting and hopefully enlightening community of like minded movie lovers and otherwise! Thanks for the great work on the site to date! Keep up the good work- Happy camper here. |
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Post by tecnogaming on Feb 8, 2017 20:05:36 GMT
Good words Admin.
Everything always comes down to 1 or 2 persons and the kind of person that is in charge of said information. On one hand you have the proboards that don't give admins important information but the proboards admin themselves have them and it's about the same predicament than an admin of a forum having the information, it all comes down to what kind of person is the one having the information.
Does he/she respect privacy? does he/she uses it for profit?.
This is not my case, the IP's addresses of the people logged in and the respective IPs are imposible to ignore, for the simple fact the the software connecting the people to the forum MUST know the IP to make the connection successfully, besides, there are so many bad people there that uses a forum to impart massive damange like insulting, attacking others or simply making DDoS attacks which can be very destructive and the IP's are about the ONLY WAY to minimize damage and block this kind of people.
On a self-sustain forum like mine, having the IP is not something that has to do with privacy, almost no administrator/sysadmin I know of use it for personal gain. But they use it (me included) to keep bad people out. A bad IP can get banned, a person from whom I don't know the IP I can't fight and if I don't know this stuff, anyone can be doing anything without you having the tools to defend.
So far, all the admin has said is valid.
I just want to add that I stopped promoting my site when I understood what the admin wanted to do, I fully respect you man.
So, please people, just stop saying bad things for no reason, let's all co-exist in peace shall we?
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Post by heeeyyy on Feb 8, 2017 21:50:10 GMT
Good words Admin. Everything always comes down to 1 or 2 persons and the kind of person that is in charge of said information. On one hand you have the proboards that don't give admins important information but the proboards admin themselves have them and it's about the same predicament than an admin of a forum having the information, it all comes down to what kind of person is the one having the information. Does he/she respect privacy? does he/she uses it for profit?. This is not my case, the IP's addresses of the people logged in and the respective IPs are imposible to ignore, for the simple fact the the software connecting the people to the forum MUST know the IP to make the connection successfully, besides, there are so many bad people there that uses a forum to impart massive damange like insulting, attacking others or simply making DDoS attacks which can be very destructive and the IP's are about the ONLY WAY to minimize damage and block this kind of people. On a self-sustain forum like mine, having the IP is not something that has to do with privacy, almost no administrator/sysadmin I know of use it for personal gain. But they use it (me included) to keep bad people out. A bad IP can get banned, a person from whom I don't know the IP I can't fight and if I don't know this stuff, anyone can be doing anything without you having the tools to defend. So far, all the admin has said is valid. I just want to add that I stopped promoting my site when I understood what the admin wanted to do, I fully respect you man. So, please people, just stop saying bad things for no reason, let's all co-exist in peace shall we? Well said, Alex. I happen to like both sites so far. |
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Post by vandyvch on Feb 8, 2017 22:33:11 GMT
I'm glad the Admin supports the advertising of the other forums here. Ultimately, there is not going to be an "IMDB refugee" site that everyone from IMDb will join, as ideal as that would be.
Having multiple sites open and communicating with each other enables us to "re-feed" each other when we lose members, and it maximizes the amount of people we can "save" from IMDB. Because ultimately when the IMDB boards shut down those that don't join one of them will pretty much fall into obscurity.
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Post by snsurone on Feb 8, 2017 22:39:52 GMT
It's gonna take me a little time to get used to this new format.
My only hope is that you can rein in the trolls and the OT posts, which the previous forum was unable (or unwilling) to do.
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Post by jillmcbain on Feb 8, 2017 23:06:55 GMT
I strongly suggest an IP-ban function. There have been serious stalking and doxxing incidents on the imdb, that even included death threats. One doxxer threatened another poster with putting her picture and name on the Craigslist of that country in order to stalk and find and 'kill' [sic] the poster in question. This doxxer repeated this with others. These incidents happened on the imdb repeatedly. Those stalkers in question take and took a sadistic pleasure from doing so. And they were basically done by the same three posters. I would strongly urge you to ban these people, once and for all.
These boards are supposed to be fun. Stalking, doxxing, death threats and indulging into the type of behavior I described above has nothing to do with fun, that's terror.
Thank you in advance.
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Post by ninthwalker on Feb 9, 2017 0:09:12 GMT
Thanks for starting these forums.
I would also like to suggest a little standardization going forward as well.
Such as the subject title for movie/tv name threads, have the very first post in the thread be a picture/standard information about the show.
I know that will require mods and such, but it could also be put in an 'IMDB2 Standards' type of document as well. Let me know if you want any help from a moderator or document standpoint.
Thanks.
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Post by soluna on Feb 9, 2017 1:27:17 GMT
Hi John, Thank you so much for putting together this site. I just wanted to say that I agree about IP banning if that's possible. I've been on message boards for 16 years and that was always a positive experience until I came to IMDb a few years ago. I was actually shocked by what I found after spending so many years on polite, well-moderated, volunteer-run message boards. And although I've gotten used to all the negativity on IMDb, I'm not going to miss it. And in that spirit, I would like to offer for your consideration the comments section rules from "The Daily Mail," which AFAIK is the biggest tabloid in the world. However, in spite of that, The Daily Mail's comments sections are relatively polite. If you compare their comments sections to the TMZ comments sections, it's like night and day. Of course, there's plenty of well-run message boards that have good rules sections that could be used for ideas for this site, but I thought I would post a link to The Daily Mail's rules in case you might find them of interest. The only rule of theirs I find weird is the one saying not to just say just one word like "agree." Anyway, here they are: www.dailymail.co.uk/home/house_rules.html |
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Post by pk9 on Feb 9, 2017 3:07:16 GMT
I think this site looks great in terms of the formatting and seems very close to "home" for those of us moving from imdb. However, I think the biggest concern is the name. IMDB v2.0 is a very "comfortable" name for users, but I strongly suspect that imdb.com (which is not ceasing operations) will eventually have issue with trademark infringement. Anything that happens on this completely unaffiliated board will be associated with their brand, and they could even get into legal trouble for stuff that happens here unless they shut us down. That's probably the most likely reason for an unannounced shutdown by freeforums admin. I think we will need to come up with a more distinct name, but still something close enough to remind users of where our roots were.
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Post by chandlerwander on Feb 9, 2017 3:11:47 GMT
I think this site looks great in terms of the formatting and seems very close to "home" for those of us moving from imdb. However, I think the biggest concern is the name. IMDB v2.0 is a very "comfortable" name for users, but I strongly suspect that imdb.com (which is not ceasing operations) will eventually have issue with trademark infringement. Anything that happens on this completely unaffiliated board will be associated with their brand, and they could even get into legal trouble for stuff that happens here unless they shut us down. That's probably the most likely reason for an unannounced shutdown by freeforums admin. I think we will need to come up with a more distinct name, but still something close enough to remind users of where our roots were. I think our dear admin needs to backup this board regularly if that possible, and if the boards get taken down for some reason, he can just start another freeforum site and upload that backup file. He can stay in touch with us by creating or sharing his twitter for announcements. |
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