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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 22:32:49 GMT
But when one is debating origins, one or two is all that matters. As I've conceded, far more proselytizers went to Africa than Africans went elsewhere. But beside that point is the undeniable possibility that Christianity in Africa originated from self-seekers. No. Bullshit. You wish. I couldn't care less. I just wanted to interject some biblical fact into a discussion about Christianity is all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 22:34:01 GMT
But when one is debating origins, one or two is all that matters. As I've conceded, far more proselytizers went to Africa than Africans went elsewhere. But beside that point is the undeniable possibility that Christianity in Africa originated from self-seekers. No. Bullshit. You wish. Like, seriously, why would I care? What difference does it make to me?
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Post by goz on Feb 19, 2018 22:34:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 22:36:47 GMT
Okay, Ms. Smarty Pants (lol), we'll call it "actual biblical content" instead of "biblical fact." Satisfied?
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Post by goz on Feb 19, 2018 22:37:00 GMT
Like, seriously, why would I care? What difference does it make to me? No comment. No comment necessary except that I had to make one so I could ramble. [ramble] icon
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 22:38:54 GMT
Like, seriously, why would I care? What difference does it make to me? No comment. No comment necessary except that I had to make one so I could ramble. [ramble] icon Don't put that curse on my Ricky Bobby! i didn't say you were a rambler. Now in that other thread, I did insinuate that you were a bit of a voyeur, but I've never said rambler.
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Post by mrellaguru on Feb 19, 2018 22:49:11 GMT
People tend to be whatever the most popular religion is where they are born. Blacks born in a Christian country such as the US will tend to be Christian. Blacks born in a predominantly Muslim country will probably be Muslim.
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Post by goz on Feb 19, 2018 22:49:56 GMT
No comment. No comment necessary except that I had to make one so I could ramble. [ramble] icon Don't put that curse on my Ricky Bobby! i didn't say you were a rambler. Now in that other thread, I did insinuate that you were a bit of a voyeur, but I've never said rambler. Do I dare ask what your 'Ricky Bobby' is? Would I want to voyeur it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 22:59:49 GMT
Don't put that curse on my Ricky Bobby! i didn't say you were a rambler. Now in that other thread, I did insinuate that you were a bit of a voyeur, but I've never said rambler. Do I dare ask what your 'Ricky Bobby' is? Would I want to voyeur it? Ha! You never know...you might like it. It's a quote from a Will Ferrell movie. And I keep misquoting it. The line is "don't put that evil on me"
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 20, 2018 0:43:22 GMT
The historical evidence is that Christianity tends to thrive when a choice is given and especially if we are combining all Christian denominations. Even during the Inquisition when people were forced to pretend to be Christian, once the oppression was gone, people chose to stay with it. That's even more the case now that people do choose their faith. Christianity is the best option among the ones that are known about.
Granted, some may not ever know about other religions such as Hinduism or Buddhism, but that isn't their problem, but the problem of those faiths not being interested in reaching out to them or having a message that's appealing enough to start the change.
If we factor atheism into it as some kind of pseudo-ideology, that's even more the case. In short, Christianity is a great religion to belong to to a lot of people regardless of race.I agree with what you commented on earlier, about why define an entire race, by what others may do within it. As for Christianity being the best option, that is very debatable and questionable though. It is the most accessible and widely preached religion in the west, however, that doesn't mean it is the most appropriate. Reaching out, is more about attempting to convert one into something and brainwash and condition them. This is about control and manipulation. That is what Christianity is all about and the herd will follow. Other religions are perhaps less brazen and less arrogant about what they teach, and allow for followers to come into them at their own behest. Unless one is born into them of course, then that is what is taught and conditioned. I guess I have been lucky in a sense, that I never had religion shoved onto me, although I was surrounded by Christians and did make attempts to process the religion myself. It just wasn't working for me in this lifetime. I liked the stories, which are really just parables with messages, but most of what the church teaches, have got it wrong and twisted anyway. There is NO separateness. I said a lot of people based on their preference. Again, I'm not terribly interested in discussing why people think they are special in their lack of desire to be religious or "lucky" as you call it as if the rest of us are forced into it and imprisoned and primarily because we aren't smart...& especially the black ones.
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Post by goz on Feb 20, 2018 0:50:56 GMT
I agree with what you commented on earlier, about why define an entire race, by what others may do within it. As for Christianity being the best option, that is very debatable and questionable though. It is the most accessible and widely preached religion in the west, however, that doesn't mean it is the most appropriate. Reaching out, is more about attempting to convert one into something and brainwash and condition them. This is about control and manipulation. That is what Christianity is all about and the herd will follow. Other religions are perhaps less brazen and less arrogant about what they teach, and allow for followers to come into them at their own behest. Unless one is born into them of course, then that is what is taught and conditioned. I guess I have been lucky in a sense, that I never had religion shoved onto me, although I was surrounded by Christians and did make attempts to process the religion myself. It just wasn't working for me in this lifetime. I liked the stories, which are really just parables with messages, but most of what the church teaches, have got it wrong and twisted anyway. There is NO separateness. I said a lot of people based on their preference. Again, I'm not terribly interested in discussing why people think they are special in their lack of desire to be religious or "lucky" as you call it as if the rest of us are forced into it and imprisoned and primarily because we aren't smart...& especially the black ones. Hey! IF you Christians could get over the fact that MOST black people in Africa and those who were slaves and taken to the Americas were forced into Christianity by missionaries and the abusive of slave owners, maybe the atheists such as myself here could acknowledge that having had your whole life, community, native beliefs and freedom taken from you and forced into slavery and often tortuous situations, then the message of Christianity has its benefits for hope and salvation.
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Post by kls on Feb 20, 2018 0:54:51 GMT
I said a lot of people based on their preference. Again, I'm not terribly interested in discussing why people think they are special in their lack of desire to be religious or "lucky" as you call it as if the rest of us are forced into it and imprisoned and primarily because we aren't smart...& especially the black ones. Hey! IF you Christians could get over the fact that MOST black people in Africa and those who were slaves and taken to the Americas were forced into Christianity by missionaries and the abusive of slave owners, maybe the atheists such as myself here could acknowledge that having had your whole life, community, native beliefs and freedom taken from you and forced into slavery and often tortuous situations, then the message of Christianity has its benefits for hope and salvation. How could anyone deny either of those things?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 20, 2018 0:56:10 GMT
I said a lot of people based on their preference. Again, I'm not terribly interested in discussing why people think they are special in their lack of desire to be religious or "lucky" as you call it as if the rest of us are forced into it and imprisoned and primarily because we aren't smart...& especially the black ones. Hey! IF you Christians could get over the fact that MOST black people in Africa and those who were slaves and taken to the Americas were forced into Christianity by missionaries and the abusive of slave owners, maybe the atheists such as myself here could acknowledge that having had your whole life, community, native beliefs and freedom taken from you and forced into slavery and often tortuous situations, then the message of Christianity has its benefits for hope and salvation. Again, what does that have to do with me? Are you saying I should hate whitey? Really wouldn't it make more sense to hate white people than to hate Christianity?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 20, 2018 0:58:55 GMT
I said a lot of people based on their preference.Again, I'm not terribly interested in discussing why people think they are special in their lack of desire to be religious or "lucky" as you call it as if the rest of us are forced into it and imprisoned and primarily because we aren't smart...& especially the black ones. Same thing, preference, which is based on choice. As for your other comment, this just sounds like deflection and twisted Christian rhetoric. It's your preference, which you appear to want for others as well. Are you being smart? I'm not deflecting anything. In fact I dare you to explain why you are made of the right stuff and why I'm duped. You can't or you would have done it already in a bestselling book.
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Post by captainbryce on Feb 20, 2018 1:01:27 GMT
Evidently not since many of them are still following the religion used to enslave their ancestors. so then you are proving my point. I’m not “proving” anything. I’m merely validating my own question.
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Post by deembastille on Feb 20, 2018 1:05:07 GMT
so then you are proving my point. I’m not “proving” anything. I’m merely validating my own question. validating your own question? you have to tell yourself you are right?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 20, 2018 1:11:37 GMT
I'm not deflecting anything. In fact I dare you to explain why you are made of the right stuff and why I'm duped. You can't or you would have done it already in a bestselling book. But isn't that exactly what Christianity is all about, in believing that their belief is made up of the right stuff and being a true and genuine Christian, is to spread the word? Perhaps you have been duped. There are plenty of books out there on theology and religion to read; but at the end of the day, all it comes down to is you, your own life and state of being. Religion— any religion—has nothing to do with your holistic journey. Even Christ knew this. There is ultimately NO religion. Whatever Christianity is made up of, it doesn't concern you and you lack the intellect, experience, & wisdom to make a judgement about it & me despite your desperate need to judge.
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Post by captainbryce on Feb 20, 2018 1:11:50 GMT
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Post by captainbryce on Feb 20, 2018 1:12:34 GMT
I’m not “proving” anything. I’m merely validating my own question. validating your own question? you have to tell yourself you are right? No. I was telling you because you asked. Keep up!
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Post by deembastille on Feb 20, 2018 1:14:56 GMT
i never believed jesus was blonde with blue eyes.
i just can't see jesus with an afro.
and fyi he was born jewish so there's that.
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