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Post by Marv on Feb 20, 2018 9:08:46 GMT
We don't tip in my country. But I live in my country. And in my country you tip. Or you get bad service.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 12:13:46 GMT
Perhaps. As I said, it is going to depend on what they are used for. Which is fine, for that particular chip. But different chips are going to be different depending (say it with me!) on what they are used for. Hey genius, once it's implanted, you have no control over what's used for. You can be told it's for one thing, and the next day it can be for something else. Combine that with a cashless society, and you have total control of the populace, and no one shall buy or sell without it. Except that we're unlikely ever to have a cashless society, and no, even if we did that does not give one "total control of the populace". Paranoia isn't a good guide to the future, mate. Take a breath and relax, it will all turn out okay. It always does in the end.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 21, 2018 7:21:47 GMT
Hey genius, once it's implanted, you have no control over what's used for. You can be told it's for one thing, and the next day it can be for something else. Combine that with a cashless society, and you have total control of the populace, and no one shall buy or sell without it. Except that we're unlikely ever to have a cashless society, and no, even if we did that does not give one "total control of the populace". Paranoia isn't a good guide to the future, mate. Take a breath and relax, it will all turn out okay. It always does in the end. Garbage.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 21, 2018 7:23:11 GMT
Well, I just dropped in to see how the thread was going. Maybe the Devil needs a better advocate.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Feb 21, 2018 7:32:57 GMT
Well, I just dropped in to see how the thread was going. Maybe the Devil needs a better advocate. +1
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 21, 2018 7:41:30 GMT
Well, I just dropped in to see how the thread was going. Maybe the Devil needs a better advocate. Quick! Someone call Keanu!
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Post by progressiveelement on Feb 21, 2018 10:50:32 GMT
There has been some discussion on this board about micro chips and implantations, surveillance and perceived invasions of personal privacy and security. I am going to play the Devil's Advocate for a moment here and ask people why they fear this, what is the intrinsic harm, what could be the consequences of that perceived harm and how we can stop it. For my part, as a regular kind of law abiding citizen who has already come under some of this type of surveillance because I have a mobile phone, a computer an internet server, a credit card and I walk into public places such as malls, use the roads and have a car with an identifiable number plate etc..... In some ways don't these things protect me?I am innocent of wrongdoing, what harm is there? What can happen to me? Can someone tell me what the 'intrinsic' harm is, if you are a law abiding citizen? Wouldn't it be only criminals with something to hide that is seriously at risk of 'discovery', and isn't that good? I think you've had more practice being a devil's advocate than I have. Microchip technology isn't equally fair. The rich have access to technology that would give them advantages over the poor. What could happen to you? Remember that fingerprint recognition security? Somebody might cut your finger off. With microchips they might cut yours out and commit a crime with it in their possession after having removed their own. Then who knows? Switch back. Thanks for bringing up another reason that too many people are too stupid vote and something must be done to prevent them voting for their stupid ideas. You'd be safe in Chernobyl. 😎
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on Feb 21, 2018 11:32:14 GMT
No doubt others have answered you the same as I will.
Freedom isn't being able to carry guns. It isn't even being able to slander others without fear.
Freedom is the ability to do what you want as long as you abide by the law. Every time The Man is able to observe another part of your life is an opportunity for them to regulate it.
The police (and those poring over your every internet communication) aren't looking to give you a gold star. They are looking for evidence of crimes, no matter how slight.
Purchasing a bag of ammonium nitrate isn't to make your roses grow bigger. It is to make a bomb.
Looking up early Brooke Shields movies isn't because you are a movie buff wondering how a young teen got conned into nude scenes. It is because you are a paedophile looking for nude pics of a 12 year old.
Whatever innocent activities you are doing, some of what you do in your daily life can be construed as criminal. And you might be asked to account for those activities you have probably forgotten about.
I realised recently the power of the video cameras police have on their pursuit vehicles (5 on the car I inspected), to detect cars without valid registration. Those cameras auto-detect registration numbers, store them with date, time and GPS. CCTV cameras in ATMs and street corners can do the same, detecting and archiving your vehicle registration plate wherever there are CCTV cameras. Pretty soon they will be able to dial up your vehicle and plot everywhere you went.
I got a toll way invoice yesterday for when I went to Brisbane when I didn't realise I went on a tollroad. It too the Philipines callcentre woman who could barely speak English 10 seconds to pull up a picture of my car going through the tunnel. It is already here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 12:15:51 GMT
Except that we're unlikely ever to have a cashless society, and no, even if we did that does not give one "total control of the populace". Paranoia isn't a good guide to the future, mate. Take a breath and relax, it will all turn out okay. It always does in the end. Garbage. What a great comeback. I love the way you supported all your points with very reasonable arguments. It didn't make you look at all like a paranoid moron. Well done you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 12:17:40 GMT
Well, I just dropped in to see how the thread was going. Maybe the Devil needs a better advocate. Well in summary, you've been made to look like a fool again and nobody has been able to suggest any particular reason to worry about RFID chips. So about like always, really.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 21, 2018 12:22:51 GMT
What a great comeback. I love the way you supported all your points with very reasonable arguments. It didn't make you look at all like a paranoid moron. Well done you. I'm glad that you liked me calling garbage what it is.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 21, 2018 12:24:41 GMT
Well, I just dropped in to see how the thread was going. Maybe the Devil needs a better advocate. Well in summary, you've been made to look like a fool again and nobody has been able to suggest any particular reason to worry about RFID chips. So about like always, really. I already told you that there's no need for YOU to worry. You're gone anyway. You can take an RFID chip and inhale it up your nose for all I care.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 14:51:06 GMT
Well in summary, you've been made to look like a fool again and nobody has been able to suggest any particular reason to worry about RFID chips. So about like always, really. I already told you that there's no need for YOU to worry. You're gone anyway. You can take an RFID chip and inhale it up your nose for all I care. That wasn't worrying, mate. That was me pointing out what a fool you've made of yourself, and that there's no actual need for anybody to worry. And your delusional little victim-porn jerkoff fantasies don't apply to me, Erjen.
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