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her experiences dealing with Muslim "refugees".
'Interesting' read:
The rest of the interview can be read here: vladtepesblog.com/2018/02/07/those-people-who-ate-with-me-drank-danced-laughed-they-talk-about-me-as-stupid-german-whore/
'Interesting' read:
The following is a documentation of an interview with the German artist, activist for the rights of indigenous peoples, and UN advisor Rebecca Sommer, by the Polish website EuroIslam from January 18, 2018.
Rebecca used to support Muslim “refugees” in Germany, and describes how her experience made her gradually change her mind over core issues.
It is a long text but well worth the read. Please note that there is currently a mistranslation. circulating, claiming that she said to she was moving to Poland. This is inaccurate; she said she knows Germans who are moving to Poland.
Thanks to Ava Lon for the translation.
Natalia Osten-Sacken: Rebecca, you’ve worked many years with refugees and immigrants, you’re a well-known human rights activist. Already before the big wave of immigration in 2015, you were well known for fighting for unlimited admission of these people to Germany. What influenced the change of your views?
Rebecca Sommer:
I would like to point out that I have never fought for “unlimited” admission of migrants, because it is impossible for any country to adopt infinitely. I am a humanist and human rights activist. The first years I believed that people who come here are real refugees, happy that they will be safe now and that they will show a good faith in order to adapt here and to integrate. But with time, an unpleasant awakening came about step by step. The reasons for this were so complex that I just couldn’t ignore it anymore.
For sure, one of the main turning points, as in many of us, was New Year’s Eve 2015 in Cologne. Then I finally had to admit to myself that this type of behavior describes the overwhelming majority of Muslims with whom I had to deal with in my life. It was the moment when I said to myself: “Rebecca, now you have to slow down, at least because you are women’s rights activist, with your responsibility to them as a woman.” I have tried to justify these constantly repeated patterns of behavior and thinking, their way of perceiving the world – which are based on their religion, Islam, and their culture – for example, in such a way that they are new here. I believed that these medieval views would change over time. I placed great trust in our libertarian, equitable European values, and I naively thought that every person must delight in them and take them on.
But after looking back through the years of repetitive experiences and myself in my work environment as a volunteer, I had to admit to myself that when it comes to Muslim refugees, they have grown up with completely different values, into wich they have been brainwashed and are indoctrinated by Islam, and have no intention of adopting our values – worse, they look at us, unbelievers with superiority and arrogance. I call it “headscarf in the head”. And additionally, after their arrival here, many of them fall into the tentacles of fundamental Imams, political Islam (imported from Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran etc.) who strengthen them in their fundamentalism, which prohibits them from mixing with us, infidels, and our way of life, prohibits the adoption of our perception of the world and our scientific achievements, which the German state unfortunately no longer has any control over.
An additional example, which helped me opening my eyes, happened in 2016, when I learned the truth about a certain group of refugees, whom I looked after for a long time. They had become my friends in the meantime, I helped them during the asylum procedures, I dealt with their official matters, I got them apartments, furniture, cell phones, computers, clothing, courses, jobs, scholarships and spent countless free hours of my private time on individual cases. However, at some point I noticed that these people play with me an unclean game, that is, they use on me taqqiya. I was lied to by these people, which disappointed me a lot. I myself, was constantly warned against this Muslim misleading strategy, by people from Arab countries and Kurds who did not only flee from war zones, but had to flee Muslims; however, I did not want to listen to them. And suddenly, it turned out that those people who dealt with everything who ate with me, drank, danced, laughed, did not pray, did not go to the mosque, did not observe Ramadan, mocked religion and deeply religious people, they, all while eating my food and sitting in my garden, they don’t talk about me other than “a stupid German whore”.
This not only hurt me a lot, because I was their help, their friend, their sister and their mother, and I really trusted them, but it became also an additional reason for waking up. They were my actual example of successful integration and friendship between people with Western views and people from the Arab-Muslim culture. I was helping them, protecting them, supporting them and I offered them a real friendship. I accepted them with open arms in Germany and for this I got disrespect by their words and deeds as a “thank you”.
In the meantime, I have set up the files of all the cases that I have ever worked on and I’m following the progress of my present and former protegés, much more critically and accurately. I also watch cases of other volunteers. Unfortunately, due to similar experiences, like mine, many people have quit their jobs and the new ones who are starting are as naive as I once was. But in contrast to what the media tell us, there are not so many willing volunteers, and others who have been as long as me, simply started to make money on it. From them you won’t hear about disappointment, it would not be in their interest.
And what has emerged from your tracking of the progress of immigrants?
Many still don’t work and barely speak German. They stay in their groups, they have few, if any, German friends. Others turned to crime. Or they have radicalized. Or later it comes to light that they were ISIS fighters or Al-Nusra, groups, which they are still admiring. Of course there are exceptions, they work, they speak German, but that so-called “head scarf inside the head”, the perception of themselves as a Muslim, as something better, this indescribable haughtiness towards us, remains in the majority of cases after all. Since then, I have lost all my commitment and willingness to volunteer with those Muslims obviously supporting the patriarchate.
Now I recognize how they function. Although I carry on with the open cases, I only accept new cases in which in my opinion, it’s about real refugees who have a reason to come to a secular state where women and men are equal before the law, where we eat pork, where they could even sunbathe naked on the beach. This freedom is very precious and very fragile, if we think about how many people are arriving here all of a sudden, with their “scarf in the head” and just because of their numbers everything changes here. We see it now. I became very cautious and extremely distrustful. I believe that those who really do not need asylum with us should seek asylum or seek a better life in Muslim countries, instead of trying to force their medieval values ??over us and over time simply hurt us all.
That is why I am now helping primarily women and religious minorities who have had to escape from Muslim countries: political refugees, journalists, Muslims who have renounced their faith and are therefore persecuted. And as I said, I am particularly happy to help women. These are the ones who, due to their financial independence in Germany, can part with their husbands. They were forcefully married to these men and would have to spend their entire lives put the smile on their faces and serve the man they hate internally. In a Muslim marriage, we have a lot of violence and rape. A woman has no human value, she is perceived as a sexual object and not as a partner. She is a worker and a birthing machine. This is her job as a good Muslim woman. Just like most Muslims don’t respect us, they don’t respect their own women. Not everyone, I do know good couples, but most of them. This also applies to Muslims with German citizenship. Islam gives this right. That is why I am warning about it now. I saw, I heard, I lived through enough. I have my facts.
You used the word taqqiya. How do you understand it and how did you come across it?
Most Europeans don’t know the word taqqiya*, and people who try to warn against this form of religiously justified behavior are immediately branded as racists, even if they come from the same regions and cultural circles as the immigrants, whom we call refugees. Taqqiya means “cheating”. Taqqiya [originally was supposed to protect Muslims against persecution – editor Euroislam], gives Muslims permission to be insincere to us, the non-Muslims, if this would protect Islam and Muslims. There are various forms of lies that are allowed under certain circumstances in relations with non-Muslims, and taqqiya is the best known one. This is about circumstances such as supporting Islamic interests or individual Muslim nations [Muslim community – ed.] – for example, when they can gain the trust of an unbeliever through lies – which makes him weak – to defeat him in this way.
The undermining of trust is programmed here. Muslims can deceive and lie to an infidel, it is not ethically blameworthy if this tactic will bring some profit that will help him and the Ummah. He doesn’t have to be ashamed of it. In order to extract benefits from the unbeliever, they can pretend friendship or love as long as they don’t feel it in their hearts. Thanks to the existence of taqqiya Muslims are free from any responsibility towards the unbeliever – this is my warning for women who deal with them! But also especially for our politicians who enter into agreements with Islamic unions – no oath, even in the name of Allah, matters because of taqqiya, because Allah has dispensed his faithful from oaths towards unbelievers. The only condition: the lying one must deeply believe in the Koran and Allah. Taqqiya allows a Muslim to act as if he were not a Muslim. He can say and do everything as long as it is used to, for example, gain the trust of a person. Or of a country. Now think about what religious ideology we are dealing with!
Taqqiya, I think, comes from Shiism, but it is also used (even if it is denied) by Sunnis and even allows eating haram (impure) dishes or pretending to be an atheist. It is necessary to realize that saying untruth to non-Muslims is not considered to be reprehensible in Muslim countries. And such a gullible German volunteer comes into contact with a culture he completely misunderstands. After some time, you notice, however, that many refugees manipulate you to receive particularly much commitment and help from you, and above all conceal how fundamentally religious they are in reality and how much they reject our system of values ??and our society.
These are similar stories: that they studied medicine, law or computer science, that their parents are dead, and that their minor brothers in Turkey are dying of hunger in the street and we have to help them bring them here, or even that the whole family died in war. And we have to help this man – presenting himself as secular and moderately modern – to bring his beloved wife (who would live here just as free as us) and children. And soon, aunts, uncles and parents suddenly appear in Germany, and suddenly the whole deceased family of 15 people is there and owns three apartments. A younger brother arrives who, unlike what you have heard, is not at all defenseless, but he was Al Nusra’s fighter, his parents are not dead at all, they live safely in Turkey, and the older brother is not a moderate Muslim. Or you find out that they bought their diploma. Or that the family is poor, but they lived in safe territory in Syria and came to us to have a better life. Or, you are being asked by that allegedly moderate Muslim, after successfully bringing his family, to help him get his next wife and children. This wife, presented as beloved and modern, arrives completely veiled and, according to her reports, is deeply unhappy, because he beats her and forbids her everything because he is a particularly deeply believing Muslim. From this I learned that in the eyes of Muslims, using someone’s naivety, whom they see as weaker, is not frowned upon.
Rebecca used to support Muslim “refugees” in Germany, and describes how her experience made her gradually change her mind over core issues.
It is a long text but well worth the read. Please note that there is currently a mistranslation. circulating, claiming that she said to she was moving to Poland. This is inaccurate; she said she knows Germans who are moving to Poland.
Thanks to Ava Lon for the translation.
Natalia Osten-Sacken: Rebecca, you’ve worked many years with refugees and immigrants, you’re a well-known human rights activist. Already before the big wave of immigration in 2015, you were well known for fighting for unlimited admission of these people to Germany. What influenced the change of your views?
Rebecca Sommer:
I would like to point out that I have never fought for “unlimited” admission of migrants, because it is impossible for any country to adopt infinitely. I am a humanist and human rights activist. The first years I believed that people who come here are real refugees, happy that they will be safe now and that they will show a good faith in order to adapt here and to integrate. But with time, an unpleasant awakening came about step by step. The reasons for this were so complex that I just couldn’t ignore it anymore.
For sure, one of the main turning points, as in many of us, was New Year’s Eve 2015 in Cologne. Then I finally had to admit to myself that this type of behavior describes the overwhelming majority of Muslims with whom I had to deal with in my life. It was the moment when I said to myself: “Rebecca, now you have to slow down, at least because you are women’s rights activist, with your responsibility to them as a woman.” I have tried to justify these constantly repeated patterns of behavior and thinking, their way of perceiving the world – which are based on their religion, Islam, and their culture – for example, in such a way that they are new here. I believed that these medieval views would change over time. I placed great trust in our libertarian, equitable European values, and I naively thought that every person must delight in them and take them on.
But after looking back through the years of repetitive experiences and myself in my work environment as a volunteer, I had to admit to myself that when it comes to Muslim refugees, they have grown up with completely different values, into wich they have been brainwashed and are indoctrinated by Islam, and have no intention of adopting our values – worse, they look at us, unbelievers with superiority and arrogance. I call it “headscarf in the head”. And additionally, after their arrival here, many of them fall into the tentacles of fundamental Imams, political Islam (imported from Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran etc.) who strengthen them in their fundamentalism, which prohibits them from mixing with us, infidels, and our way of life, prohibits the adoption of our perception of the world and our scientific achievements, which the German state unfortunately no longer has any control over.
An additional example, which helped me opening my eyes, happened in 2016, when I learned the truth about a certain group of refugees, whom I looked after for a long time. They had become my friends in the meantime, I helped them during the asylum procedures, I dealt with their official matters, I got them apartments, furniture, cell phones, computers, clothing, courses, jobs, scholarships and spent countless free hours of my private time on individual cases. However, at some point I noticed that these people play with me an unclean game, that is, they use on me taqqiya. I was lied to by these people, which disappointed me a lot. I myself, was constantly warned against this Muslim misleading strategy, by people from Arab countries and Kurds who did not only flee from war zones, but had to flee Muslims; however, I did not want to listen to them. And suddenly, it turned out that those people who dealt with everything who ate with me, drank, danced, laughed, did not pray, did not go to the mosque, did not observe Ramadan, mocked religion and deeply religious people, they, all while eating my food and sitting in my garden, they don’t talk about me other than “a stupid German whore”.
This not only hurt me a lot, because I was their help, their friend, their sister and their mother, and I really trusted them, but it became also an additional reason for waking up. They were my actual example of successful integration and friendship between people with Western views and people from the Arab-Muslim culture. I was helping them, protecting them, supporting them and I offered them a real friendship. I accepted them with open arms in Germany and for this I got disrespect by their words and deeds as a “thank you”.
In the meantime, I have set up the files of all the cases that I have ever worked on and I’m following the progress of my present and former protegés, much more critically and accurately. I also watch cases of other volunteers. Unfortunately, due to similar experiences, like mine, many people have quit their jobs and the new ones who are starting are as naive as I once was. But in contrast to what the media tell us, there are not so many willing volunteers, and others who have been as long as me, simply started to make money on it. From them you won’t hear about disappointment, it would not be in their interest.
And what has emerged from your tracking of the progress of immigrants?
Many still don’t work and barely speak German. They stay in their groups, they have few, if any, German friends. Others turned to crime. Or they have radicalized. Or later it comes to light that they were ISIS fighters or Al-Nusra, groups, which they are still admiring. Of course there are exceptions, they work, they speak German, but that so-called “head scarf inside the head”, the perception of themselves as a Muslim, as something better, this indescribable haughtiness towards us, remains in the majority of cases after all. Since then, I have lost all my commitment and willingness to volunteer with those Muslims obviously supporting the patriarchate.
Now I recognize how they function. Although I carry on with the open cases, I only accept new cases in which in my opinion, it’s about real refugees who have a reason to come to a secular state where women and men are equal before the law, where we eat pork, where they could even sunbathe naked on the beach. This freedom is very precious and very fragile, if we think about how many people are arriving here all of a sudden, with their “scarf in the head” and just because of their numbers everything changes here. We see it now. I became very cautious and extremely distrustful. I believe that those who really do not need asylum with us should seek asylum or seek a better life in Muslim countries, instead of trying to force their medieval values ??over us and over time simply hurt us all.
That is why I am now helping primarily women and religious minorities who have had to escape from Muslim countries: political refugees, journalists, Muslims who have renounced their faith and are therefore persecuted. And as I said, I am particularly happy to help women. These are the ones who, due to their financial independence in Germany, can part with their husbands. They were forcefully married to these men and would have to spend their entire lives put the smile on their faces and serve the man they hate internally. In a Muslim marriage, we have a lot of violence and rape. A woman has no human value, she is perceived as a sexual object and not as a partner. She is a worker and a birthing machine. This is her job as a good Muslim woman. Just like most Muslims don’t respect us, they don’t respect their own women. Not everyone, I do know good couples, but most of them. This also applies to Muslims with German citizenship. Islam gives this right. That is why I am warning about it now. I saw, I heard, I lived through enough. I have my facts.
You used the word taqqiya. How do you understand it and how did you come across it?
Most Europeans don’t know the word taqqiya*, and people who try to warn against this form of religiously justified behavior are immediately branded as racists, even if they come from the same regions and cultural circles as the immigrants, whom we call refugees. Taqqiya means “cheating”. Taqqiya [originally was supposed to protect Muslims against persecution – editor Euroislam], gives Muslims permission to be insincere to us, the non-Muslims, if this would protect Islam and Muslims. There are various forms of lies that are allowed under certain circumstances in relations with non-Muslims, and taqqiya is the best known one. This is about circumstances such as supporting Islamic interests or individual Muslim nations [Muslim community – ed.] – for example, when they can gain the trust of an unbeliever through lies – which makes him weak – to defeat him in this way.
The undermining of trust is programmed here. Muslims can deceive and lie to an infidel, it is not ethically blameworthy if this tactic will bring some profit that will help him and the Ummah. He doesn’t have to be ashamed of it. In order to extract benefits from the unbeliever, they can pretend friendship or love as long as they don’t feel it in their hearts. Thanks to the existence of taqqiya Muslims are free from any responsibility towards the unbeliever – this is my warning for women who deal with them! But also especially for our politicians who enter into agreements with Islamic unions – no oath, even in the name of Allah, matters because of taqqiya, because Allah has dispensed his faithful from oaths towards unbelievers. The only condition: the lying one must deeply believe in the Koran and Allah. Taqqiya allows a Muslim to act as if he were not a Muslim. He can say and do everything as long as it is used to, for example, gain the trust of a person. Or of a country. Now think about what religious ideology we are dealing with!
Taqqiya, I think, comes from Shiism, but it is also used (even if it is denied) by Sunnis and even allows eating haram (impure) dishes or pretending to be an atheist. It is necessary to realize that saying untruth to non-Muslims is not considered to be reprehensible in Muslim countries. And such a gullible German volunteer comes into contact with a culture he completely misunderstands. After some time, you notice, however, that many refugees manipulate you to receive particularly much commitment and help from you, and above all conceal how fundamentally religious they are in reality and how much they reject our system of values ??and our society.
These are similar stories: that they studied medicine, law or computer science, that their parents are dead, and that their minor brothers in Turkey are dying of hunger in the street and we have to help them bring them here, or even that the whole family died in war. And we have to help this man – presenting himself as secular and moderately modern – to bring his beloved wife (who would live here just as free as us) and children. And soon, aunts, uncles and parents suddenly appear in Germany, and suddenly the whole deceased family of 15 people is there and owns three apartments. A younger brother arrives who, unlike what you have heard, is not at all defenseless, but he was Al Nusra’s fighter, his parents are not dead at all, they live safely in Turkey, and the older brother is not a moderate Muslim. Or you find out that they bought their diploma. Or that the family is poor, but they lived in safe territory in Syria and came to us to have a better life. Or, you are being asked by that allegedly moderate Muslim, after successfully bringing his family, to help him get his next wife and children. This wife, presented as beloved and modern, arrives completely veiled and, according to her reports, is deeply unhappy, because he beats her and forbids her everything because he is a particularly deeply believing Muslim. From this I learned that in the eyes of Muslims, using someone’s naivety, whom they see as weaker, is not frowned upon.
The rest of the interview can be read here: vladtepesblog.com/2018/02/07/those-people-who-ate-with-me-drank-danced-laughed-they-talk-about-me-as-stupid-german-whore/