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Post by Cinemachinery on Mar 1, 2018 19:39:11 GMT
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Post by Isapop on Mar 1, 2018 19:55:54 GMT
I never actually read any of the articles in Women Church World before. I just buy it for the photos.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 1, 2018 20:26:14 GMT
Other branches of Christianity are progressing quicker, but I think the more orthodox or fundamental a religion is, the harder it is for it to change it's flawed teachings.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Mar 1, 2018 20:48:19 GMT
Other branches of Christianity are progressing quicker, but I think the more orthodox or fundamental a religion is, the harder it is for it to change it's flawed teachings. True. I know a lot of hard liner Catholics have issues with the Pope right now, but the church overall should be thanking him for keeping Catholicism somewhat more accessible than it otherwise would have been.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 1, 2018 21:40:06 GMT
Other branches of Christianity are progressing quicker, but I think the more orthodox or fundamental a religion is, the harder it is for it to change it's flawed teachings. True. I know a lot of hard liner Catholics have issues with the Pope right now, but the church overall should be thanking him for keeping Catholicism somewhat more accessible than it otherwise would have been. I am not a Catholic, but I think he is a great pope, he is actually trying to haul the church into the 20th century.
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Post by Isapop on Mar 1, 2018 21:48:09 GMT
I am not a Catholic, but I think he is a great pope, he is actually trying to haul the church into the 20th century. I haven't noticed evidence of any heavy lifting. A change in tone and emphasis, but nothing in policy or practices. (Admittedly, I haven't been watching all that closely.)
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Post by gadreel on Mar 1, 2018 22:11:11 GMT
I am not a Catholic, but I think he is a great pope, he is actually trying to haul the church into the 20th century. I haven't noticed evidence of any heavy lifting. A change in tone and emphasis, but nothing in policy or practices. (Admittedly, I haven't been watching all that closely.) It's a pretty big behemoth and he has to get past the other old fogeys at the top, but he is clearly trying.
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Post by goz on Mar 1, 2018 22:46:37 GMT
Other branches of Christianity are progressing quicker, but I think the more orthodox or fundamental a religion is, the harder it is for it to change it's flawed teachings. Well, what can you expect when 1. There are no women Catholic priests. 2. There are not even 'married' Catholic priests. Women were/are good for only one thing. Married sex and motherhood and cleaning and cooking for cardinals and husbands. Mary was the archetypal 'vessel'. EVEN Mary was not allowed to manage her own procreative rights.
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Post by Isapop on Mar 1, 2018 23:00:15 GMT
I haven't noticed evidence of any heavy lifting. A change in tone and emphasis, but nothing in policy or practices. (Admittedly, I haven't been watching all that closely.) It's a pretty big behemoth and he has to get past the other old fogeys at the top, but he is clearly trying. At 81 years old, if he's serious about any significant changes, he can't afford the time to be timid.
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Post by Vegas on Mar 1, 2018 23:02:02 GMT
GET THEM AWAY FROM THAT BABY!!!
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Post by gadreel on Mar 2, 2018 0:59:28 GMT
Other branches of Christianity are progressing quicker, but I think the more orthodox or fundamental a religion is, the harder it is for it to change it's flawed teachings. Well, what can you expect when 1. There are no women Catholic priests. 2. There are not even 'married' Catholic priests. Women were/are good for only one thing. Married sex and motherhood and cleaning and cooking for cardinals and husbands. Mary was the archetypal 'vessel'. EVEN Mary was not allowed to manage her own procreative rights. There are married catholic priests, a couple of years ago anglicans were invited to swap sides and they were allowed to remain married. Why this has to become about gender is a bit beyond me, they may just be mere males in your eyes, but they are capable of thought.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 2, 2018 1:00:35 GMT
It's a pretty big behemoth and he has to get past the other old fogeys at the top, but he is clearly trying. At 81 years old, if he's serious about any significant changes, he can't afford the time to be timid. true, I don't think that he will really make changes in his tenure, I think it is more likely that the seed will be sown. Honestly I don't really pay a lot of attention to the catholics, but he seems like a good dude.
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Post by goz on Mar 2, 2018 1:08:16 GMT
Well, what can you expect when 1. There are no women Catholic priests. 2. There are not even 'married' Catholic priests. Women were/are good for only one thing. Married sex and motherhood and cleaning and cooking for cardinals and husbands. Mary was the archetypal 'vessel'. EVEN Mary was not allowed to manage her own procreative rights. There are married catholic priests, a couple of years ago anglicans were invited to swap sides and they were allowed to remain married. Why this has to become about gender is a bit beyond me, they may just be mere males in your eyes, but they are capable of thought. The OP was specifically about gender. Perhaps it has been ignored for too long in the Catholic Church?
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Post by gadreel on Mar 2, 2018 1:15:18 GMT
There are married catholic priests, a couple of years ago anglicans were invited to swap sides and they were allowed to remain married. Why this has to become about gender is a bit beyond me, they may just be mere males in your eyes, but they are capable of thought. The OP was specifically about gender. Perhaps it has been ignored for too long in the Catholic Church? my comment was far more general, in the context it seems to suggest you think women would change the church more effectively than men can.
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Post by goz on Mar 2, 2018 1:18:10 GMT
The OP was specifically about gender. Perhaps it has been ignored for too long in the Catholic Church? my comment was far more general, in the context it seems to suggest you think women would change the church more effectively than men can. I neither said nor implied that. Equality and fairness is usually enough for most women and that is way off.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 2, 2018 1:26:35 GMT
my comment was far more general, in the context it seems to suggest you think women would change the church more effectively than men can. I neither said nor implied that. Equality and fairness is usually enough for most women and that is way off. No I implied it from the context of your inference.
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