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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 18, 2018 22:50:32 GMT
Then don't frame Joker, just have them be random murders that are under investigation with no leads. There are SO MANY other ways out. They were corrupt cops, just say that the Mob had them killed. I mean really, the people of Gotham were dumb enough to believe Dent was a killer purely on some old letter Bane read, they can be just as easily duped into thinking some cops got killed by random killers. But as usual, the Nolan movies have fans who just don't think about these things. They eat up anything he writes like gospel. Exactly how long would they be able to keep up the charade of fake investigations? I’m genuinely asking here because that sounds like it would be a rather faulty coverup. This is Gotham, they COULD keep it up forever with how crime ridden it is. Or just attribute the killings to dead criminals/mobsters who died afterwards.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 18, 2018 23:01:48 GMT
Exactly how long would they be able to keep up the charade of fake investigations? I’m genuinely asking here because that sounds like it would be a rather faulty coverup. This is Gotham, they COULD keep it up forever with how crime ridden it is. Or just attribute the killings to dead criminals/mobsters who died afterwards. Which dead mobsters could they attribute those killings too? It couldn’t be someone like Gambol because he was already dead before the killing took place.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 18, 2018 23:05:43 GMT
This is Gotham, they COULD keep it up forever with how crime ridden it is. Or just attribute the killings to dead criminals/mobsters who died afterwards. Which dead mobsters could they attribute those killings too? It couldn’t be someone like Gambol because he was already dead before the killing took place. Any dead mobster, this is Gotham City we're talking about.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 18, 2018 23:13:25 GMT
Which dead mobsters could they attribute those killings too? It couldn’t be someone like Gambol because he was already dead before the killing took place. Any dead mobster, this is Gotham City we're talking about. But it can’t be a mobster who had been dead before the murders took place. That still leaves them with a problem. Who could they possibly blame?
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 18, 2018 23:41:33 GMT
Any dead mobster, this is Gotham City we're talking about. But it can’t be a mobster who had been dead before the murders took place. That still leaves them with a problem. Who could they possibly blame? Any mobsters, hell if any mobsters die during the fake investigation just use them. It's not like the Mobsters wanted for anything could claim they were innocent. Dark Knight took the lazy way out, without considering other options. This is the laziness I'm talking about. Gotham City is the kind of place where you can just say "Someone's been murdered" and there will probably never be a conclusive answer.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 18, 2018 23:54:44 GMT
But it can’t be a mobster who had been dead before the murders took place. That still leaves them with a problem. Who could they possibly blame? Any mobsters, hell if any mobsters die during the fake investigation just use them. It's not like the Mobsters wanted for anything could claim they were innocent. Dark Knight took the lazy way out, without considering other options. This is the laziness I'm talking about. Gotham City is the kind of place where you can just say "Someone's been murdered" and there will probably never be a conclusive answer. That actually sounds like a much lazier ending than having Batman willingly take the blame, especially on the count of all the questions it would raise.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 19, 2018 0:40:17 GMT
Any mobsters, hell if any mobsters die during the fake investigation just use them. It's not like the Mobsters wanted for anything could claim they were innocent. Dark Knight took the lazy way out, without considering other options. This is the laziness I'm talking about. Gotham City is the kind of place where you can just say "Someone's been murdered" and there will probably never be a conclusive answer. That actually sounds like a much lazier ending than having Batman willingly take the blame, especially on the count of all the questions it would raise. A less lazy ending would've not wasted Harvey like that and made him the villain for the third movie.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 19, 2018 0:46:47 GMT
That actually sounds like a much lazier ending than having Batman willingly take the blame, especially on the count of all the questions it would raise. A less lazy ending would've not wasted Harvey like that and made him the villain for the third movie. They were going to have him be the villian of the third movie, but Nolan ultimately decided that he wanted TDK to be one complete movie. That’s why they killed of Two-Face. It had nothing to do with laziness.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 19, 2018 2:10:13 GMT
A less lazy ending would've not wasted Harvey like that and made him the villain for the third movie. They were going to have him be the villian of the third movie, but Nolan ultimately decided that he wanted TDK to be one complete movie. That’s why they killed of Two-Face. That's laziness. No foresight.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 6:46:46 GMT
Exactly. For all the sexist turds on the 'Wonder Woman' IMDB Boards who were claiming 'Wonder Woman' was going to flop harder than 'Ghostbusters (2016)' and be the death of the DCEU 'cause nobody wanted any female superhero movies - oohh and all the threads about "What are feminists going to do when Wonder Woman flops?" and "Who are feminists going to blame?" I am not surprised so many of them were pissed off 'Wonder Woman' was successful 'cause it made them look like a bunch of sexist dickheads and if the IMDB Boards had still been opened after 'Wonder Woman' came out I would brought all their threads back up just to rub it in. ![](https://s21.postimg.org/9u6spps5j/image.gif) There was a similar attitude when Black Panther was announced. For whatever reason there's people who are threatened when a woman or POC are in starring roles or take up a large portion of the cast. Especially if it's a comic book Movie. A genre that is usually made up of White men. Yes. I saw some of the reactions over Black Panther and they were appalling to say the least and there were flat out racists using words like 'Nigga' and 'Coons' on message boards and comment sections and I wouldn't be surprised if they were KKK members. It is anytime there is a movie with a female lead, person of colour or an LGBT character they throw tantrums over it and claim it is being forced on them when it is them that want to force millions of movies with heterosexual white males down our throats and don't see the hypocrisy of it. Did you see the posts about James Olsen on the 'Supergirl' IMDB board? I can't say I have been a big fan of the latest version of the character but the colour of his skin wasn't the problem and they were claiming the show was trying to force an interracial relationship between Kara and James to screw white men out of dating. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/7r8xnn0k9/roll.gif)
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 20, 2018 9:16:22 GMT
There was a similar attitude when Black Panther was announced. For whatever reason there's people who are threatened when a woman or POC are in starring roles or take up a large portion of the cast. Especially if it's a comic book Movie. A genre that is usually made up of White men. Yes. I saw some of the reactions over Black Panther and they were appalling to say the least and there were flat out racists using words like 'Nigga' and 'Coons' on message boards and comment sections and I wouldn't be surprised if they were KKK members. It is anytime there is a movie with a female lead, person of colour or an LGBT character they throw tantrums over it and claim it is being forced on them when it is them that want to force millions of movies with heterosexual white males down our throats and don't see the hypocrisy of it. Did you see the posts about James Olsen on the 'Supergirl' IMDB board? I can't say I have been a big fan of the latest version of the character but the colour of his skin wasn't the problem and they were claiming the show was trying to force an interracial relationship between Kara and James to screw white men out of dating. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/7r8xnn0k9/roll.gif) The whole casting a black man as Jimmy Olsen? Yeah I remember that controversy because it was met with stupid comments like "SUPERGIRL IS PROMOTING WHITE GENOCIDE!!!111" It's the same old bullshit every fucking time, especially on this site. Wonder Woman: IT'S FEMINAZI/SJW PROPAGANDA!!!11 Black Panther: IT'S BLACK LIVES MATTER/SJW PROPAGANDA!!!11 When we get a CBM with a LGBT lead character I'm going to bet that it'll be accused of whatever Boogeyman they're afraid of.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 5:47:46 GMT
The whole casting a black man as Jimmy Olsen? Yeah I remember that controversy because it was met with stupid comments like "SUPERGIRL IS PROMOTING WHITE GENOCIDE!!!111" It's the same old bullshit every fucking time, especially on this site. Wonder Woman: IT'S FEMINAZI/SJW PROPAGANDA!!!11 Black Panther: IT'S BLACK LIVES MATTER/SJW PROPAGANDA!!!11 When we get a CBM with a LGBT lead character I'm going to bet that it'll be accused of whatever Boogeyman they're afraid of. Prepare for them to literally shit their pants come the day we get a comic book movie with an LGBT character in a leading role. We already got one with 'Blue is the Warmest Colour' but they were fine with that 'cause it was a movie they could enjoy with their pants down but when 'Painkiller Jane' with Jessica Chastain comes out if she isn't straightwashed to have a boyfriend or we get 'Batwoman' or 'Hack/Slash' they are going to load this forum and comment sections everywhere with "Aaaaahhh. The gay agenda is taking over!!!!!!! The gay agenda is taking over!!!! They are forcing us to watch gays in movies and are trying to turn us gay!!!! I can't take my children to see this 'cause they might see that homosexual people are human beings just like heterosexuals. Think of the children.![](https://s26.postimg.org/jnez3haft/gulp.gif) ![](https://s26.postimg.org/jnez3haft/gulp.gif) " It is the same bullshit with them every time which is why I don't care if I offend them 'cause I am sick to death of their sexist, racist and homophobic garbage. They really need to get lives and stop acting like a bunch of immature babies just 'cause a movie comes out and it doesn't have a hetero white male as the lead. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/7r8xnn0k9/roll.gif) ![](https://s14.postimg.org/6iewsabzl/Elekid_Shiny_Sprite.gif)
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 25, 2018 10:15:41 GMT
The whole casting a black man as Jimmy Olsen? Yeah I remember that controversy because it was met with stupid comments like "SUPERGIRL IS PROMOTING WHITE GENOCIDE!!!111" It's the same old bullshit every fucking time, especially on this site. Wonder Woman: IT'S FEMINAZI/SJW PROPAGANDA!!!11 Black Panther: IT'S BLACK LIVES MATTER/SJW PROPAGANDA!!!11 When we get a CBM with a LGBT lead character I'm going to bet that it'll be accused of whatever Boogeyman they're afraid of. Prepare for them to literally shit their pants come the day we get a comic book movie with an LGBT character in a leading role. We already got one with 'Blue is the Warmest Colour' but they were fine with that 'cause it was a movie they could enjoy with their pants down but when 'Painkiller Jane' with Jessica Chastain comes out if she isn't straightwashed to have a boyfriend or we get 'Batwoman' or 'Hack/Slash' they are going to load this forum and comment sections everywhere with "Aaaaahhh. The gay agenda is taking over!!!!!!! The gay agenda is taking over!!!! They are forcing us to watch gays in movies and are trying to turn us gay!!!! I can't take my children to see this 'cause they might see that homosexual people are human beings just like heterosexuals. Think of the children.![](https://s26.postimg.org/jnez3haft/gulp.gif) ![](https://s26.postimg.org/jnez3haft/gulp.gif) " It is the same bullshit with them every time which is why I don't care if I offend them 'cause I am sick to death of their sexist, racist and homophobic garbage. They really need to get lives and stop acting like a bunch of immature babies just 'cause a movie comes out and it doesn't have a hetero white male as the lead. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/7r8xnn0k9/roll.gif) ![](https://s14.postimg.org/6iewsabzl/Elekid_Shiny_Sprite.gif) 👏👏👏 I really wanted Marvel to reveal Steve Rogers to be Bisexual. I know at least 3 users on this site that will scream about sjw's.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 26, 2018 19:34:00 GMT
Given that A Wrinkle in Time hasn’t been well received, shouldn’t that put an end to this idea that critics will like anything solely on the grounds of if it empowers women or non-whites? Let's be completely honest here. If movies like WW or BP were bad, no amount of PC agenda would have made them successful. If you need proof just look at the recent Ghostbusters. That was clearly pushing a feminist agenda AND was highly praised by critics. Still flunked. A large part of WW and BP being successful is due to the fact that they were actually pretty good movies. Maybe even great movies. But, if we were to be completely honest, we should also admit that their sales and praise were helped in no small part by PC motivations. It is not the major factor in them being successful, but it certainly helped bloat both their praise/ratings and their BO income.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 6:56:57 GMT
👏👏👏 I really wanted Marvel to reveal Steve Rogers to be Bisexual. I know at least 3 users on this site that will scream about sjw's. Thanks. It is always nice to talk to kind comic book/superhero fans like you Hauntedknight87 'cause I know not all male comic book fans are sexist, racist and homophobic turds but there are a lot of vocal ones online especially on comment sections of articles lately who seem to have deep issues and should be seeing a therapist so we don't have to put up with their rubbish. I do remember all the talk about having Steve Rogers turn out to be bisexual and have a male love interest and they were going off their nuts about it on the IMDB Boards and it is a shame it didn't happen in the last movie but still could. Did you see the racists on the 'Spider-Man: Homecoming' board when it was believed Zendaya was going to be playing Mary Jane? Part of me wishes that had turned out to be true 'cause they would still be up in flames over it now. ![](https://s17.postimg.org/hk7tzif6n/sprite_skitty_by_harudo.gif)
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 30, 2018 21:37:20 GMT
👏👏👏 I really wanted Marvel to reveal Steve Rogers to be Bisexual. I know at least 3 users on this site that will scream about sjw's. Thanks. It is always nice to talk to kind comic book/superhero fans like you Hauntedknight87 'cause I know not all male comic book fans are sexist, racist and homophobic turds but there are a lot of vocal ones online especially on comment sections of articles lately who seem to have deep issues and should be seeing a therapist so we don't have to put up with their rubbish. I do remember all the talk about having Steve Rogers turn out to be bisexual and have a male love interest and they were going off their nuts about it on the IMDB Boards and it is a shame it didn't happen in the last movie but still could. Did you see the racists on the 'Spider-Man: Homecoming' board when it was believed Zendaya was going to be playing Mary Jane? Part of me wishes that had turned out to be true 'cause they would still be up in flames over it now. ![](https://s17.postimg.org/hk7tzif6n/sprite_skitty_by_harudo.gif) No problem. It's also nice to have a nice poster on this site. Too many assholes anymore. Yeah the Zendaya controversy was stupid, especially since they never confirmed her as Mary Jane Watson. But that's the internet for you.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 30, 2018 22:13:41 GMT
Thanks. It is always nice to talk to kind comic book/superhero fans like you Hauntedknight87 'cause I know not all male comic book fans are sexist, racist and homophobic turds but there are a lot of vocal ones online especially on comment sections of articles lately who seem to have deep issues and should be seeing a therapist so we don't have to put up with their rubbish. I do remember all the talk about having Steve Rogers turn out to be bisexual and have a male love interest and they were going off their nuts about it on the IMDB Boards and it is a shame it didn't happen in the last movie but still could. Did you see the racists on the 'Spider-Man: Homecoming' board when it was believed Zendaya was going to be playing Mary Jane? Part of me wishes that had turned out to be true 'cause they would still be up in flames over it now. ![](https://s17.postimg.org/hk7tzif6n/sprite_skitty_by_harudo.gif) No problem. It's also nice to have a nice poster on this site. Too many assholes anymore. Yeah the Zendaya controversy was stupid, especially since they never confirmed her as Mary Jane Watson. But that's the internet for you. Remember how the kid who played Flash got death threats because he wasn't white?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 30, 2018 23:16:36 GMT
No problem. It's also nice to have a nice poster on this site. Too many assholes anymore. Yeah the Zendaya controversy was stupid, especially since they never confirmed her as Mary Jane Watson. But that's the internet for you. Remember how the kid who played Flash got death threats because he wasn't white? Oh yeah that was completely uncalled for. Unfortunately fandoms have their assholes. Gal Gadot got insane amount of hate when they announced her casting. There was a big anti campaign, largely because, and I quote, "Her tits aren't big enough! WONDER WOMAN IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BIG TITS!!!!" She also got bashed because of her ethnicity.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 30, 2018 23:36:57 GMT
The whole casting a black man as Jimmy Olsen? Yeah I remember that controversy because it was met with stupid comments like "SUPERGIRL IS PROMOTING WHITE GENOCIDE!!!111" It's the same old bullshit every fucking time, especially on this site. Wonder Woman: IT'S FEMINAZI/SJW PROPAGANDA!!!11 Black Panther: IT'S BLACK LIVES MATTER/SJW PROPAGANDA!!!11 When we get a CBM with a LGBT lead character I'm going to bet that it'll be accused of whatever Boogeyman they're afraid of. Prepare for them to literally shit their pants come the day we get a comic book movie with an LGBT character in a leading role. We already got one with 'Blue is the Warmest Colour' but they were fine with that 'cause it was a movie they could enjoy with their pants down but when 'Painkiller Jane' with Jessica Chastain comes out if she isn't straightwashed to have a boyfriend or we get 'Batwoman' or 'Hack/Slash' they are going to load this forum and comment sections everywhere with "Aaaaahhh. The gay agenda is taking over!!!!!!! The gay agenda is taking over!!!! They are forcing us to watch gays in movies and are trying to turn us gay!!!! I can't take my children to see this 'cause they might see that homosexual people are human beings just like heterosexuals. Think of the children.![](https://s26.postimg.org/jnez3haft/gulp.gif) ![](https://s26.postimg.org/jnez3haft/gulp.gif) " It is the same bullshit with them every time which is why I don't care if I offend them 'cause I am sick to death of their sexist, racist and homophobic garbage. They really need to get lives and stop acting like a bunch of immature babies just 'cause a movie comes out and it doesn't have a hetero white male as the lead. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/7r8xnn0k9/roll.gif) ![](https://s14.postimg.org/6iewsabzl/Elekid_Shiny_Sprite.gif) I don't think any of them noticed that they painted mutants in the X-men movies as gay. And unless they sweep her under the rug because of recent Marvel comics politics, I think America Chavez might be the 1st major gay lead character. DC has it covered on tv with having at least one gay character in each of their CW shows (maybe not on Legends, haven't watched this season).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 7:52:32 GMT
Thanks. It is always nice to talk to kind comic book/superhero fans like you Hauntedknight87 'cause I know not all male comic book fans are sexist, racist and homophobic turds but there are a lot of vocal ones online especially on comment sections of articles lately who seem to have deep issues and should be seeing a therapist so we don't have to put up with their rubbish. I do remember all the talk about having Steve Rogers turn out to be bisexual and have a male love interest and they were going off their nuts about it on the IMDB Boards and it is a shame it didn't happen in the last movie but still could. Did you see the racists on the 'Spider-Man: Homecoming' board when it was believed Zendaya was going to be playing Mary Jane? Part of me wishes that had turned out to be true 'cause they would still be up in flames over it now. ![](https://s17.postimg.org/hk7tzif6n/sprite_skitty_by_harudo.gif) No problem. It's also nice to have a nice poster on this site. Too many assholes anymore. Yeah the Zendaya controversy was stupid, especially since they never confirmed her as Mary Jane Watson. But that's the internet for you. You're welcome and I get what you mean which is why I rarely comment on the comment sections of movie articles anymore 'cause there is a lot of hate and bitterness in the comic book movie community and it is really pathetic and when they are not whinging over movies with female leads, people of colour and LGBT characters they spend 90 percent of their time fighting over the DCEU and MCU and which one is better and I swear some of these people have no lives at all. I mean there were members on the old 'Batman vs Superman' board that would literally spend 24/7 fighting on there and I still have no idea how when these people had time to work, sleep or eat 'cause their profiles showed they made posts every single hour of the day which wasn't just obsessive but was downright scary. The funny thing is as obsessed as they are with defending their favourite a lot of them aren't that knowledgeable about them or the characters as they make out they are. ![](https://s9.postimg.org/tuzpulzxr/shaymew_by_dragonpika.gif)
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