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Post by scienceisgod on Mar 15, 2017 6:44:29 GMT
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Post by progressiveelement on Mar 15, 2017 8:44:27 GMT
The Danish are stupid anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 8:48:51 GMT
Pathetic. People should have the right to their irrational beliefs, but not the right to have them protected from criticism, ridicule, satire, or even contempt. Laws such as this encourage religious people to be weak-minded and to have an entitlement mentality with regards to having certain ideas that they hold to be ringfenced.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 15, 2017 11:04:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 11:31:28 GMT
Backwards.
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Post by Moviefan on Mar 15, 2017 12:56:17 GMT
Backwards. No one should ever be jailed for blasphemy. It shouldn't be a crime.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 15, 2017 13:08:14 GMT
It is a crime so it's perfectly understandable why he was charged that blatantly counted under the law.
However, they should do away with it.
Apparently he won't actually go to jail over it since its been about 40 years since that happened.
Interestingly enough, hate crime law would likely cover it too which seems to indicate that hate crime based on speech is equally ridiculous.
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Post by Marv on Mar 15, 2017 13:12:50 GMT
Without really knowing the culture of Denmark...it seems backwards to me. In my ideal world a man should be able to burn his own possessions at will. Assuming he purchased the book or had it given to him in some other legal fashion I don't see why he couldn't burn it.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 15, 2017 13:30:35 GMT
Without really knowing the culture of Denmark...it seems backwards to me. In my ideal world a man should be able to burn his own possessions at will. Assuming he purchased the book or had it given to him in some other legal fashion I don't see why he couldn't burn it. And especially if there's a perfectly rational reason for it.
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Post by Marv on Mar 15, 2017 13:51:16 GMT
I mean, if the only way to counter a bullshit law is with a bullshit defense, I'm all for it.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 15, 2017 13:58:08 GMT
I don't think he did it to challenge the law though.
I researched it and it really is just a hate crime law which are routinely encouraged despite being stupid too since there is no way to draw a line on what's protected and what's not
I imagine the self-defense argument is used as a way to avoid it being blasphemy since it won't actually change the blasphemy law.
Apparently Denmark is perfectly fine with the law since it's just another protection against bigotry.
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Post by Marv on Mar 15, 2017 14:01:13 GMT
Like I said I'm not up to speed on Denmarks culture or legal system but I would ultimately support the defendant here and hope he gets off without a hitch.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 14:01:46 GMT
A former soldier was jailed for 70 days in 2011 for burning the Qur'an in Carlisle,England. Granted he stole the Qur'an from a local library but still,he wasn't jailed for blasphemy but you get the point.
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Post by thefleetsin on Mar 15, 2017 14:31:12 GMT
we mustn't upset the mentally maladjusted. you've seen what they are capable of through out history when their god gets spanked.
YEAH RIGHT.
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Post by tickingmask on Mar 15, 2017 14:35:34 GMT
I'm guessing your decision to change 'charged with blasphemy' to 'jailed for blasphemy' in the subject line was intentional, in order to try and wring as much sensationalism as possible out the story. Now, why would you want to do that, I wonder?
However I'm betting it will never result in a conviction, let alone a jail sentence. Assuming it even gets to court in the first place, which I also have doubts about.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 15, 2017 14:36:59 GMT
It's backwards!!!! And that isn't up for debate.
What if I deleted a digital copy of the quran? Am I going to jail? NO? Then why would I go to jail for burning a book? It's just a book, there's nothing wrong with doing that in demonstration or for any other reason you want.
This is unacceptable.
The article says it's against "public scorn and mockery of religion" I'm sorry but if your ideas can't stand up to public scorn and mockery, they don't deserve the protection against them. This is the kind of crap they did in the middle ages.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 15, 2017 14:39:29 GMT
I'm guessing your decision to change 'charged with blasphemy' to 'jailed for blasphemy' in the subject line was intentional, in order to try and wring as much sensationalism as possible out the story. Now, why would you want to do that, I wonder? However I'm betting it will never result in a conviction, let alone a jail sentence. Assuming it even gets to court in the first place, which I also have doubts about. Even charging him is unacceptable. It's absurd and the kind of ignorant shit people did in the middle ages.
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Post by tickingmask on Mar 15, 2017 14:45:07 GMT
Even charging him is unacceptable. True, it sounds like a really bad decision. But then again, I don't think people should be charged with burning flags either, so it's not just a religious issue as far as I'm concerned.
But that's no reason to sensationalise the story by making up a subject line which is completely untrue. We all know the guy is not going to go to jail for this.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 15, 2017 14:49:07 GMT
I don't think he did it to challenge the law though. I researched it and it really is just a hate crime law which are routinely encouraged despite being stupid too since there is no way to draw a line on what's protected and what's not I imagine the self-defense argument is used as a way to avoid it being blasphemy since it won't actually change the blasphemy law. Apparently Denmark is perfectly fine with the law since it's just another protection against bigotry. It's not a protection against bigotry, it's a violation of free speech. I should be able to criticize your religion or any idea all I want so long as I am not impending on your rights. And your rights do not include preventing me from burning a quran or a bible or anything else.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 15, 2017 14:51:34 GMT
Even charging him is unacceptable. True, it sounds like a really bad decision. But then again, I don't think people should be charged with burning flags either, so it's not just a religious issue as far as I'm concerned.
But that's no reason to sensationalise the story by making up a subject line which is completely untrue. We all know the guy is not going to go to jail for this.
I agree on all counts, it is not a religious specific issue. Burning a cookbook isn't a problem either, so long as you aren't creating a dangerous situation over it.
To any religious person upset over a book burning, ask yourself if you're just as upset over deleting a digital copy.
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