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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 2:50:58 GMT
Ah, more defense mechanism-induced responses from colden.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 23, 2017 2:58:13 GMT
Ah, more defense mechanism-induced responses from colden. Says the guy who talked shit about nobody EVER producing a formula and then scoffed it off like a total douche. The random MCU hater nailed your precious McMarvel movies dead-to-rights. You're the one who's being defensive about it. And seriously, for two seconds: it's not even inherently A BAD THING for a movie studio to've made a series of consistently tonally similar, acclaimed, and successful action movies featuring superhero characters; it's just your weirdly dogmatic dickishness about the whole thing that makes it such a point of contention. Basically, dude, your unmitigated zeal and inferiority complex more or less ruins every thread you post in to the point where it devolves into this tit-for-tat nonsense. That's you, man, and it happens everywhere you go. So... Maybe that's a piece to look at during your next therapy session?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 3:07:36 GMT
That random MCU hater nailed nothing. You and that hater are both full of shit.
I know you think you're a tough guy talking smack to me, but really, you're just a coward hiding behind a computer screen. If you ever spoke to me like that in real life, I'd kick your sorry little ass and send you crying home to mommy.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 23, 2017 3:12:09 GMT
That random MCU hater nailed nothing. You and that hater are both full of shit. I know you think you're a tough guy talking smack to me, but really, you're just a coward hiding behind a computer screen. If you ever spoke to me like that in real life, I'd kick your sorry little ass and send you crying home to mommy. You would resort to physical violence against another human being because you disagreed with their opinion of a series of Disney movies made primarily for casual fans and children? And you're simultaneously accusing me of "talking smack" while saying you would "kick [my] sorry little ass and send [me] crying home to mommy"? Because that all makes you a low-class piece of trash and an oblivious twat*. * Edited to add: unless you have a serious mental health or drug/alcohol problem, which would sort of explain all of your posts but not really excuse them; in that case, you should seek professional help to discuss your feelings of impotence and rage and possibly latent homosexual love for either Captain America the character or Chris Evans.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 3:18:54 GMT
That selective memory of yours' is very self-serving. No, I'd kick your ass for all the insults you've hurled my way in your brief time here. That claim about casual fans and children is hilarious coming from a child casual fan like you. Your avatar does nothing to hide the fact you're really fourteen years old.
Glass houses, you low-class piece of trash oblivious twat.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 23, 2017 3:21:28 GMT
That selective memory of yours' is very self-serving. No, I'd kick your ass for all the insults you've hurled my way in your brief time here. That claim about casual fans and children is hilarious coming from a child casual fan like you. Your avatar does nothing to hide the fact you're really fourteen years old. Glass houses, you low-class piece of trash oblivious twat.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 3:25:01 GMT
Your mother makes her living on her back, doesn't she? Can you give me her number? I'd love to be shown a good time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 3:26:15 GMT
I'm calling your mother a whore, since I know the wording would go right over your head, otherwise.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 23, 2017 3:46:59 GMT
I'm calling your mother a whore, since I know the wording would go right over your head, otherwise.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 23, 2017 11:50:41 GMT
If you're into that sell-out "grounded' approach instead of anything wondrous. And once again someone brings up the ever-present "formula" no one has ever been able to define.I literally googled "MCU formula," and this came up third from the top: "Personally, I was tired of the standard Marvel formula by the time the first Avengers film was over. And since then we've had Guardians of the Galaxy, Ultron, Ant-Man, and Civil War all tell basically the same story. Not to mention Agents of SHIELD, which takes the same tone and approach and drags it out for a full tv season. Thor 2 might also fall in the same category, though its been so long since I watched it I dont [sic] recall. The villains are always poorly developed and badly disguised mirrors for the heroes' inner conflicts. They all try (with varying degrees of success) for that combination of high-octane action and humor, with just enough drama mixed in to keep you from thinking you're watching a comedy."
- tell basically the same story
- same tone and approach
- villains are always poorly developed
- [villains are] badly disguised mirrors for the heroes' inner conflicts
- all try (with varying degrees of success) for that combination of high-octane action and humor
- just enough drama mixed in to keep you from thinking you're watching a comedy
And that took... less than one minute to, excuse me, formulate. I'm sure further effort could be devoted to expounding upon and contributing additional points of commonality between the McMarvel films, but that's a hell of a start. Now, hurry up and express your apoplexy in the form of ad hominem arguments, weird tangential snipes about "wonderment" and "shame" that evince a lack of fluidity in the English language, and other such nit-picks against that rough list as if (a) I even made it myself and/or (b) care. How do GOTG, AOU, Ant-Man and Civil War telling the same story exactly? The guy gives no real proof of that. AOS changed as time went on as well. So the guy complains that the villains aren't the stars of the show, instead of MCU taking the lazy way out and making the movies really be about the villains. Combination of humor and action? That's a LOT of movies, so by your logic they fit that formula too. Honestly, this "Marvel Formula" could apply to hundreds of movies over history. The only formula they have is "success".
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 23, 2017 15:46:36 GMT
I literally googled "MCU formula," and this came up third from the top: "Personally, I was tired of the standard Marvel formula by the time the first Avengers film was over. And since then we've had Guardians of the Galaxy, Ultron, Ant-Man, and Civil War all tell basically the same story. Not to mention Agents of SHIELD, which takes the same tone and approach and drags it out for a full tv season. Thor 2 might also fall in the same category, though its been so long since I watched it I dont [sic] recall. The villains are always poorly developed and badly disguised mirrors for the heroes' inner conflicts. They all try (with varying degrees of success) for that combination of high-octane action and humor, with just enough drama mixed in to keep you from thinking you're watching a comedy."
- tell basically the same story
- same tone and approach
- villains are always poorly developed
- [villains are] badly disguised mirrors for the heroes' inner conflicts
- all try (with varying degrees of success) for that combination of high-octane action and humor
- just enough drama mixed in to keep you from thinking you're watching a comedy
And that took... less than one minute to, excuse me, formulate. I'm sure further effort could be devoted to expounding upon and contributing additional points of commonality between the McMarvel films, but that's a hell of a start. Now, hurry up and express your apoplexy in the form of ad hominem arguments, weird tangential snipes about "wonderment" and "shame" that evince a lack of fluidity in the English language, and other such nit-picks against that rough list as if (a) I even made it myself and/or (b) care. How do GOTG, AOU, Ant-Man and Civil War telling the same story exactly? The guy gives no real proof of that. AOS changed as time went on as well. So the guy complains that the villains aren't the stars of the show, instead of MCU taking the lazy way out and making the movies really be about the villains. Combination of humor and action? That's a LOT of movies, so by your logic they fit that formula too. Honestly, this "Marvel Formula" could apply to hundreds of movies over history. The only formula they have is "success". Nah, I think it's pretty specific to your beloved McMarvel McMovies despite your hair-splitting and obfuscation.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 23, 2017 16:00:24 GMT
How do GOTG, AOU, Ant-Man and Civil War telling the same story exactly? The guy gives no real proof of that. AOS changed as time went on as well. So the guy complains that the villains aren't the stars of the show, instead of MCU taking the lazy way out and making the movies really be about the villains. Combination of humor and action? That's a LOT of movies, so by your logic they fit that formula too. Honestly, this "Marvel Formula" could apply to hundreds of movies over history. The only formula they have is "success". Nah, I think it's pretty specific to your beloved McMarvel McMovies despite your hair-splitting and obfuscation. Not really, that stuff could apply to plenty of other movies. It's just that MCU has a lot of success and success breeds professional envy. Formulaic better defines the X-Men movies. They haven't evolved since 2000, even Logan was just more of the same.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 23, 2017 16:05:27 GMT
Nah, I think it's pretty specific to your beloved McMarvel McMovies despite your hair-splitting and obfuscation. Not really, that stuff could apply to plenty of other movies. It's just that MCU has a lot of success and success breeds professional envy. Formulaic better defines the X-Men movies. They haven't evolved since 2000, even Logan was just more of the same. There is more divergence in half of the things on that list between the first and second X-movies than all of the MCU films, with the notable exeption of Winter Solider which is basically the cliched exception that proves the rule.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 16:10:25 GMT
How do GOTG, AOU, Ant-Man and Civil War telling the same story exactly? The guy gives no real proof of that. AOS changed as time went on as well. So the guy complains that the villains aren't the stars of the show, instead of MCU taking the lazy way out and making the movies really be about the villains. Combination of humor and action? That's a LOT of movies, so by your logic they fit that formula too. Honestly, this "Marvel Formula" could apply to hundreds of movies over history. The only formula they have is "success". Nah, I think it's pretty specific to your beloved McMarvel McMovies despite your hair-splitting and obfuscation. Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, The Hunt for Red October, most Mel Gibson movies as a matter of fact, Escape from New York, most Jackie Chan movies, Star Wars, Pirates of the Caribbean, most Arnold Schwarzenegger films, Men in Black, and countless others.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 23, 2017 16:11:52 GMT
Nah, I think it's pretty specific to your beloved McMarvel McMovies despite your hair-splitting and obfuscation. Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, The Hunt for Red October, most Mel Gibson movies as a matter of fact, Escape from New York, most Jackie Chan movies, Star Wars, Pirates of the Caribbean, most Arnold Schwarzenegger films, Men in Black, and countless others. That's just a list of movies. You haven't demonstrated their connection to anything, even one another, let alone the subject at hand, man.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 16:14:14 GMT
Now you're just being intentionally thick because you know I'm right.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 23, 2017 16:20:13 GMT
Now you're just being intentionally thick because you know I'm right. No, you're being intentionally broad and nonspecific. You asserted a fact without proving it. I'm asking you to do so or rescind/cede your point.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 16:23:10 GMT
No, I'm not playing your game. You know what qualities all of those films share with the MCU films, and you refuse to acknowledge it because that'd mean you would have to admit you're wrong.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 23, 2017 16:26:47 GMT
No, I'm not playing your game. You know what qualities all of those films share with the MCU films, and you refuse to acknowledge it because that'd mean you would have to admit you're wrong. No, I really don't -- have to admit anything or acknowledge anything, since I don't see what connection you're trying to make. It honestly strikes me as a random list of movies you spouted off that have almost nothing to do with one another apart from being big-budget studio films, apart from your odd inclusion of "Star Wars" which doesn't seem to've anything to do with the MCU apart from the fact that the new/Disney films share the same Disney formula as the MCU.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 16:29:06 GMT
You're not fooling anyone.
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