Post by stargazer1682 on May 11, 2018 4:45:02 GMT
A lot of decent action that almost added up to something, but only end up being an hour long tease. I'll admit, with all the explosions and the close calls and Curtis getting hurt, I wondered if this was the finale; I can never keep track of that stuff.
Anatoly's idea of a warning to get out is 30 seconds? I guess he figures all American heroes have super speed...
Twice Diaz is poised to kill Felicity, and twice he fails to do so. Stop toying with my emotions! Happy, sad, happy, sad, I can't take it!
Oliver tells William he has fought all sorts of bad guys and is still here; to which William says he won't always have a choice; to which I say, "Didn't Oliver and Felicity have this exact same conversation two weeks ago?"
So Felicity's magical data sniffer, which sounds like a perverted actuary, can locate and download the content of this one little thumb drive no matter where it is in the SCPD building, without first downloading the content of every other device in the same proximity... Fine, but why put it in the center of the building if it has that kind of range given the danger? Can't wouldn't it be just as effective and safer going to one side of the building you can either secure or at least have better odds of escaping? That at least covers half the building, ostensibly, or a good enough portion of it that you might find it, and if you don't, you go to another part, on and on. Just because the SCPD has to keep up pretenses doesn't mean it isn't suspicious as fuck that the wife of the Green Arrow's sidekick shows up for any reason. Anyone who knows who she is - which at this point should be everyone in the SCPD keeping an eye out for Team Arrow to make it's move - can also figure that she knows that they who she is and why she's really there; and if both parties know this, there is no pretense.
And really, how the hell does Diaz have this type of control over so many people? Most of the cops we see don't even act like normal people to begin with; they're all sketchy af, making it seem unbelievable that any of them would even make it through the academy. Then Diaz makes the comment to the tech guy about doing his tests and that his grandma's life hangs in the balance; which you have to figure is what he has on this guy. And I think, how far do any of these people's loyalties to Diaz run, when half of them are just being extorted with threats of violence? I mean, I get how that's a real tactic in the real world, but Diaz hardly seems to have earned that; and loyalty doesn't seem to actually mean Jack shit, as we see in the end.
So there's gun play and no one gets hurt, naturally; not even Felicity...
So they start decrypting and some how this SCPD tech can track where Felicity took the data? Bullshit. If they never went to the police station and broadcasting the data to their hideout and then traced where it was being broadcast to, maybe, but it was sent to her computer, ostensibly in her car, but it that's the case, once they drove off what are they tracking?
I suppose, since the data had to end up on the computer in Helix that couldn't be moved for some reason, that Felicity was only doing her hacker voodoo locally and resending it back to the base for decoding, but that's dumb in a number of ways. Felicity of all people should have the foresight and ability to cover her tracks so a police tech can't track anything she's doing back to her location. Isn't that like Hacker 101? Second, there'd be no need to retransmit the data when Diaz originally has it on a thumb drive, why wouldn't they do the same? Make copies of it, to back it up? Why wasn't Felicity decrypting the day on a laptop they could take with them??
Such a convenient self-destruct that blows a small part of a stairwell as to throw someone several feet, but not so powerful as to injury anyone a few few away; and then nothing else goes off for a couple of minutes, giving people time to escape.
And not only do they all have time to escape, but escape from different directions that Diaz gets out alive without being seen!
What the hell kind of loyalty or hierarchy does the Quadrant have? How can you kill someone in a top position like that (at all, let alone so easily) without igniting a war with anyone who might have been loyal to those people or at the very least had set their own designs on that power? How does anyone in an organization like the Quadrant stand for that? How did that last standing head honcho achieve his position and capitulate to Diaz without a fight?
And then Oliver goes to the Federal prosecutor looking for help and agrees to admit he's the Green Arrow in exchange for her help..... [Sigh]. Seriously?? A) what does his confession even mean at this point, let alone in this setting. As I contended last week, by all accounts Oliver was tried and acquitted of everything has ever been attributed to the Green Arrow/Arrow/Hood, meaning double jeopardy should mean he can tell anyone he wants and he can't be touch for his past actions. There's some gray areas during the fights in this episode, but more importantly, he could recant and just say he said what she wanted to hear to get her help.
For that matter, why didn't Lula make the approach instead of Oliver, or some other tact? For that matter, why can't Argus claim the likes of Oliver, et Al as agents or something? Waller did technically recruit Oliver, so it wouldn't be a stretch to claim he's been an agent all along, if only just on paper.
Now I suspect they going to send him to jail next season after all; especially with Felicity referring to the island as Supermax in this episode.
Anatoly's idea of a warning to get out is 30 seconds? I guess he figures all American heroes have super speed...
Twice Diaz is poised to kill Felicity, and twice he fails to do so. Stop toying with my emotions! Happy, sad, happy, sad, I can't take it!
Oliver tells William he has fought all sorts of bad guys and is still here; to which William says he won't always have a choice; to which I say, "Didn't Oliver and Felicity have this exact same conversation two weeks ago?"
So Felicity's magical data sniffer, which sounds like a perverted actuary, can locate and download the content of this one little thumb drive no matter where it is in the SCPD building, without first downloading the content of every other device in the same proximity... Fine, but why put it in the center of the building if it has that kind of range given the danger? Can't wouldn't it be just as effective and safer going to one side of the building you can either secure or at least have better odds of escaping? That at least covers half the building, ostensibly, or a good enough portion of it that you might find it, and if you don't, you go to another part, on and on. Just because the SCPD has to keep up pretenses doesn't mean it isn't suspicious as fuck that the wife of the Green Arrow's sidekick shows up for any reason. Anyone who knows who she is - which at this point should be everyone in the SCPD keeping an eye out for Team Arrow to make it's move - can also figure that she knows that they who she is and why she's really there; and if both parties know this, there is no pretense.
And really, how the hell does Diaz have this type of control over so many people? Most of the cops we see don't even act like normal people to begin with; they're all sketchy af, making it seem unbelievable that any of them would even make it through the academy. Then Diaz makes the comment to the tech guy about doing his tests and that his grandma's life hangs in the balance; which you have to figure is what he has on this guy. And I think, how far do any of these people's loyalties to Diaz run, when half of them are just being extorted with threats of violence? I mean, I get how that's a real tactic in the real world, but Diaz hardly seems to have earned that; and loyalty doesn't seem to actually mean Jack shit, as we see in the end.
So there's gun play and no one gets hurt, naturally; not even Felicity...
So they start decrypting and some how this SCPD tech can track where Felicity took the data? Bullshit. If they never went to the police station and broadcasting the data to their hideout and then traced where it was being broadcast to, maybe, but it was sent to her computer, ostensibly in her car, but it that's the case, once they drove off what are they tracking?
I suppose, since the data had to end up on the computer in Helix that couldn't be moved for some reason, that Felicity was only doing her hacker voodoo locally and resending it back to the base for decoding, but that's dumb in a number of ways. Felicity of all people should have the foresight and ability to cover her tracks so a police tech can't track anything she's doing back to her location. Isn't that like Hacker 101? Second, there'd be no need to retransmit the data when Diaz originally has it on a thumb drive, why wouldn't they do the same? Make copies of it, to back it up? Why wasn't Felicity decrypting the day on a laptop they could take with them??
Such a convenient self-destruct that blows a small part of a stairwell as to throw someone several feet, but not so powerful as to injury anyone a few few away; and then nothing else goes off for a couple of minutes, giving people time to escape.
And not only do they all have time to escape, but escape from different directions that Diaz gets out alive without being seen!
What the hell kind of loyalty or hierarchy does the Quadrant have? How can you kill someone in a top position like that (at all, let alone so easily) without igniting a war with anyone who might have been loyal to those people or at the very least had set their own designs on that power? How does anyone in an organization like the Quadrant stand for that? How did that last standing head honcho achieve his position and capitulate to Diaz without a fight?
And then Oliver goes to the Federal prosecutor looking for help and agrees to admit he's the Green Arrow in exchange for her help..... [Sigh]. Seriously?? A) what does his confession even mean at this point, let alone in this setting. As I contended last week, by all accounts Oliver was tried and acquitted of everything has ever been attributed to the Green Arrow/Arrow/Hood, meaning double jeopardy should mean he can tell anyone he wants and he can't be touch for his past actions. There's some gray areas during the fights in this episode, but more importantly, he could recant and just say he said what she wanted to hear to get her help.
For that matter, why didn't Lula make the approach instead of Oliver, or some other tact? For that matter, why can't Argus claim the likes of Oliver, et Al as agents or something? Waller did technically recruit Oliver, so it wouldn't be a stretch to claim he's been an agent all along, if only just on paper.
Now I suspect they going to send him to jail next season after all; especially with Felicity referring to the island as Supermax in this episode.
but look her skills amount to nothing because she got traced...you fucking imbecile, also why the fuck were they at Helix? they know they have Diaz and his army on their butts why not hold up at the fortified and heavily provisioned ARGUS HQ to begin with, that way even if Diaz does attack and ARGUS has no legal grounds to arrest him normally they can unload the full force of ARGUS on him for attacking a government agency?
