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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 1:08:13 GMT
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First of all, when reading this book , Anna Karenina I noticed a sentence that was extremely sexist against women in general. The version of the book I read, was translated by two people, one of which was a female.
So therefore, i'd be curious as to whether or not if I read a different version of this book translated to English whether or not a different female translator decided to change the sentence to make it not sexist. So what i'm going to do is find a copy of the book by another female translator or whatever they are called, I just have to find out if I can find an example of whether she decided to change that sentence, because it's sexist lol, (not to me of course but for the females.) And i'm just assuming it's offensive for them cuz I don't really know, lol.
I assume that the translator would not be legally able to change a sentence to change what the gist of the author was trying to say though, but maybe I'm wrong?
It definitely would make her a crappy translator by the way, which we all can agree on, if such an example exists.
But i'm going to have to read the whole book over again, because I have no clue where the sentence is in the story. All 850 pages of it, lol. It's ok, it's the best book ever. |
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Post by islandmur on May 24, 2018 0:45:33 GMT
I usually don't read the same book in different languages, I've tried but most transalations dont' translate culture well.
I read in 4 languages I try to stick to origninal languages, if I can find a book in a language that I know, I go by genres, sci-fi and fantasy I will read in english, spy and biographies I prefer in french, poetry only in their own language, history I don't care which language, I don't read romances / comedies or war.
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Post by lunda2222 on Jun 6, 2018 20:29:58 GMT
Here in Norway, most translators actually scan in a swedish or danish translation of a book, since those countries has a much larger population, they ususally translates the books faster and the language is so similar that there's few serious mistakes, run it through a translation program and the reads through it to ensure there's no mistakes.
Sometimes they do get a few rather comical effects. Needless to say, if I know the language, I prefer to read the original language.
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Post by yezziqa on Jun 6, 2018 20:57:54 GMT
Here in Norway, most translators actually scan in a swedish or danish translation of a book, since those countries has a much larger population, they ususally translates the books faster and the language is so similar that there's few serious mistakes, run it through a translation program and the reads through it to ensure there's no mistakes. Sometimes they do get a few rather comical effects. Needless to say, if I know the language, I prefer to read the original language. That is so damn cheap of you! So we swedes have to pay for your translations? We need to build a WALL and stop those norwegians from stealing from our country! Just kidding.  I can see how the comical effects occur, "samlag" does not mean the same thing in our languages, neither does "tös". And when you want to serve us "pölsa", we start looking for the nearest exit, as pölsa is the same dish as haggis in our country. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 23:07:35 GMT
Here in Norway, most translators actually scan in a swedish or danish translation of a book, since those countries has a much larger population, they ususally translates the books faster and the language is so similar that there's few serious mistakes, run it through a translation program and the reads through it to ensure there's no mistakes. Sometimes they do get a few rather comical effects. Needless to say, if I know the language, I prefer to read the original language. Well Sweden has a much larger population than Norway. But Denmark does not have a much larger population. Denmark`s population is about 500.000 larger than the population of Norway. At least not compared to Sweden which has a population that is over 4 million that of Norway. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Jun 14, 2018 8:04:26 GMT
Seems like a lot of trouble to go through because one sentence bothered you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 0:54:05 GMT
Seems like a lot of trouble to go through because one sentence bothered you. Iit didn't bother me personally because i'm male. However I was going to re-read this book again anyway, it's no trouble, it's fun. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Jun 15, 2018 2:34:39 GMT
Seems like a lot of trouble to go through because one sentence bothered you. Iit didn't bother me personally because i'm male. However I was going to re-read this book again anyway, it's no trouble, it's fun. You were being bothered on behalf of other people? How noble of you! |
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Post by deembastille on Jun 15, 2018 17:11:06 GMT
ive said it before and i will say it again: you can't bring 2018 into 'this' bitch. whatever 'this' is. far too many times i have seen or read people holding ancestors/historical people accountable for 'today thinking'
there is an article on the 'racist things' someone found in albert Einstein's journals when he traveled, imp particularly what he thought about Chinese: wrongfully quoting him saying he called them filthy when in reality he commented on them living in filth. living in filth due to [whatever] has nothing to do with actually being filthy. this is just one example of what he witnessed and how it is being turned around and now painting him as racist.
noticing things first hand is not racism, especially when he mentioned 'how sad it was to see' he said it was unfortunate that the children were spiritless. they were! if that is what he saw, that is what he saw! this isn't racism and it never will be.
no one is born racist or sexist or anything. these are learned behaviors.
and isn't the fact that he furthered his life and spoke at Lincoln university and stated: racism is a disease of white people, proof that he evolved away from what he saw and saw other races as different than what he saw first hand?
srsly, give people from history a break!
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Post by vegalyra on Jun 16, 2018 0:27:29 GMT
I just read a book in the context of the time even if that means I'm outdated. No 21st century norms on sex, race, etc being forced on a work from 50 years ago let alone 2000 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 0:50:44 GMT
Iit didn't bother me personally because i'm male. However I was going to re-read this book again anyway, it's no trouble, it's fun. You were being bothered on behalf of other people? How noble of you! No I'm not bothered on their behalf. Because I know most people wouldn't be offended by it considering how old the book it, at least someone with average intelligence. Like, I'm not saying that the book is Wrong for being offensive, I'm just saying that one sentence could possible be offensive to someone that doesn't understand the context of when the book came out. Like for example some ultra sensative female liberal college student let's say. You know people like that exist. I mean, some millenial people now that watch the show Friends and are offended ,they think it's sexist so they would be offended by anything right?
Noble? Not even.
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Post by deembastille on Jun 16, 2018 1:02:54 GMT
I just read a book in the context of the time even if that means I'm outdated. No 21st century norms on sex, race, etc being forced on a work from 50 years ago let alone 2000 years ago. no, dude, you're fine. it means you didn't bring 2018 into this bitch. |
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I can see how the comical effects occur, "samlag" does not mean the same thing in our languages, neither does "tös". And when you want to serve us "pölsa", we start looking for the nearest exit, as pölsa is the same dish as haggis in our country. 
