NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on May 18, 2018 2:15:15 GMT
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 18, 2018 11:53:19 GMT
I'll take that as a 'no.'
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 18, 2018 12:02:50 GMT
I still like it just fine.
I don;t need mysteries within mysteries and the show still has great acting and beautiful scenes.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 18, 2018 12:25:29 GMT
I still like it just fine. I don;t need mysteries within mysteries and the show still has great acting and beautiful scenes. I dropped it after Episode 2 of this season. It's become the new Lost, it isn't about anything. As you said, the acting and cinematography are phenomenal; but it isn't about anything anymore. It's all filler. 'Here are more flashbacks for characters whose motivations have already been firmly established.' It was my biggest fear going into season 2 and it's been realized. Westworld as a concept is great; commentary about the human condition and the emotional journey of the machines becoming 'human.' But it was covered in season 1, and there's really nowhere interesting to go with the story at this point. Flashbacks and other fake worlds are just gimmicks to keep the plot moving, there's no real story there. It's already been renewed for season 3! Where are they going to go, robot Dark Ages? Robot Victorian England? Or does it become the Matrix or the Terminator? No thanks, I've seen that already. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 18, 2018 12:29:47 GMT
I still like it just fine. I don;t need mysteries within mysteries and the show still has great acting and beautiful scenes. I dropped it after Episode 2 of this season. It's become the new Lost, it isn't about anything. As you said, the acting and cinematography are phenomenal; but it isn't about anything anymore. It's all filler. 'Here are more flashbacks for characters whose motivations have already been firmly established.' It was my biggest fear going into season 2 and it's been realized. Westworld as a concept is great; commentary about the human condition and the emotional journey of the machines becoming 'human.' But it was covered in season 1, and there's really nowhere interesting to go with the story at this point. Flashbacks and other fake worlds are just gimmicks to keep the plot moving, there's no real story there. It's already been renewed for season 3! Where are they going to go, robot Dark Ages? Robot Victorian England? Or does it become the Matrix or the Terminator? No thanks, I've seen that already. LOST is my all time favorite show, so this is a compliment. It was a show very much about "something", it just may not have been an interesting something for fans of the first season. I don't think it's about nothing. Like LOST, I think it takes more effort than a typical viewer wants to spend which is fine except that they blame the show as if the whole intent of the show was its first season. The show itself is solid and it is flowing quite well from last season. I haven't seen the last episode though. |
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Post by miike80 on May 18, 2018 12:34:29 GMT
Didn't enjoy more than one episode from season 1, i wouldn't know about season 2
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Post by DSDSquared on May 18, 2018 12:39:09 GMT
I still like it just fine. I don;t need mysteries within mysteries and the show still has great acting and beautiful scenes. I dropped it after Episode 2 of this season. It's become the new Lost, it isn't about anything. As you said, the acting and cinematography are phenomenal; but it isn't about anything anymore. It's all filler. 'Here are more flashbacks for characters whose motivations have already been firmly established.' It was my biggest fear going into season 2 and it's been realized. Westworld as a concept is great; commentary about the human condition and the emotional journey of the machines becoming 'human.' But it was covered in season 1, and there's really nowhere interesting to go with the story at this point. Flashbacks and other fake worlds are just gimmicks to keep the plot moving, there's no real story there. It's already been renewed for season 3! Where are they going to go, robot Dark Ages? Robot Victorian England? Or does it become the Matrix or the Terminator? No thanks, I've seen that already. I completely disagree. Season 2 has been just as good if not better than season one. So far it has been fantastic. There are many things left to explore. The character of Bernard is fascinating. He is constantly pulled between his loyalties to the humans and the machines. William is still such an incredible character and we are learning from the scenes with his father in law that there is more of his story to be told. Also, keep in mind that we really did not know what was going on by this point in season one. His new game may have huge implications by the end of the season, for all we know. I think it may have to do with finding eternal life. I understand that Muave's story is kind of pointless, but I love her character and am pumped beyond belief at Samurai world so it does not bother me. With Game of Thrones in hiatus, this is the best thing on TV right now. The acting, writing, and overall quality of the show is unmatched. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 18, 2018 14:04:29 GMT
I dropped it after Episode 2 of this season. It's become the new Lost, it isn't about anything. As you said, the acting and cinematography are phenomenal; but it isn't about anything anymore. It's all filler. 'Here are more flashbacks for characters whose motivations have already been firmly established.' It was my biggest fear going into season 2 and it's been realized. Westworld as a concept is great; commentary about the human condition and the emotional journey of the machines becoming 'human.' But it was covered in season 1, and there's really nowhere interesting to go with the story at this point. Flashbacks and other fake worlds are just gimmicks to keep the plot moving, there's no real story there. It's already been renewed for season 3! Where are they going to go, robot Dark Ages? Robot Victorian England? Or does it become the Matrix or the Terminator? No thanks, I've seen that already. LOST is my all time favorite show, so this is a compliment. It was a show very much about "something", it just may not have been an interesting something for fans of the first season. I don't think it's about nothing. Like LOST, I think it takes more effort than a typical viewer wants to spend which is fine except that they blame the show as if the whole intent of the show was its first season.The show itself is solid and it is flowing quite well from last season. I haven't seen the last episode though. This is the typical '2deep4u' attitude of Lost fans. The show sucked. 'More effort' means they expect the audience to fill in the blanks because they introduced too many concepts that they didn't know what to do with. It became quite clear by season 2 of Lost there was never any real long term plan, which is why I tuned out. The characters became bland and the story chased its tail and ultimately went nowhere. Westworld seems headed in the same direction (nowhere), which is why I dropped it. It has nothing to do with effort. I didn't say the show was confusing or convoluted, I said it was boring. I'm glad you enjoyed Lost, but you really need to stop insisting that people who didn't like it just weren't putting enough effort into it. I appreciate a great story, and there was no story there-- just a bunch of ideas thrown against a wall that never coalesced into anything substantial. |
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Post by politicidal on May 18, 2018 14:30:32 GMT
I got off my arse and started S1. Digging the hell out of it so far. Evan Rachel Wood's got the talent to play a superhero. *ahem* Batgirl.
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NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on May 18, 2018 14:32:29 GMT
I watched the first 2 episodes and didn't enjoy them very much so I emailed HBO and told them to stop airing the show immediately. They told me to go fuck myself. Whodafunkit??!!  |
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on May 18, 2018 14:36:22 GMT
I watched the first 2 episodes and didn't enjoy them very much so I emailed HBO and told them to stop airing the show immediately. They told me to go fuck myself. Whodafunkit??!! At least you got a response! |
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 18, 2018 15:02:55 GMT
I'm neutral on Westworld.
The machines aren't materially different than the humans they oppose. And the show adds nothing to the age-old science fiction trope of man vs. machine. Westworld's philosophical window dressing is a diversion to help you forget that the core story is essentially no different than iRobot or Magnus, Robot Fighter.
Artificial life should transcend the human condition immediately upon becoming self-aware. These "hosts" should not be trapped in endless loops of existential contemplation and clichéd psychodrama. It's dull, repetitive and tedious.
In the end, Westworld seems to want to prove that, with enough clever coding, there is no discernable difference between artificial life and biological life. I can't say if that's right or wrong, however, I do know that I'm not interested in it thematically.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 18, 2018 15:22:22 GMT
I tried to watch the first season on HBO on demand before the second season started. After watching 3 or 4 episodes I realized that only 8 of the 10 first season eps were available on HBO on demand. So I said f**k it and cancelled my HBO all together.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on May 18, 2018 15:35:08 GMT
Never watched the show, although I do like the book.
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NormanClature
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"Anyone would think tin-pot-dictatorship is a bad thing???!?"
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Post by NormanClature on May 18, 2018 15:43:27 GMT
I watched the first 2 episodes and didn't enjoy them very much so I emailed HBO and told them to stop airing the show immediately. They told me to go fuck myself. Whodafunkit??!! At least you got a response! It was probably an intern incapable of understanding that I speak for everyone. Never mind, I'll try again later.  |
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Post by Winter_King on May 18, 2018 16:03:12 GMT
I still like it just fine. I don;t need mysteries within mysteries and the show still has great acting and beautiful scenes. I dropped it after Episode 2 of this season. It's become the new Lost, it isn't about anything. As you said, the acting and cinematography are phenomenal; but it isn't about anything anymore. It's all filler. 'Here are more flashbacks for characters whose motivations have already been firmly established.' It was my biggest fear going into season 2 and it's been realized. Westworld as a concept is great; commentary about the human condition and the emotional journey of the machines becoming 'human.' But it was covered in season 1, and there's really nowhere interesting to go with the story at this point. Flashbacks and other fake worlds are just gimmicks to keep the plot moving, there's no real story there. It's already been renewed for season 3! Where are they going to go, robot Dark Ages? Robot Victorian England? Or does it become the Matrix or the Terminator? No thanks, I've seen that already. Well I've been watching season 2 and I haven't seen any filler as the definition of the word means "episodes that don't contribute to main plot". So far pretty much every episode in season 2 has been about the main plot. As for the flashbacks there were plenty of stuff in those flashbacks that we didn't know like what made Logan deciding to invest in the Westworld venture, that Dolores had actually made it the outside world before and the what exactly is the main purpose behind the park. As for where the show is going? I have no idea. The whole idea of the show was always in part about humanity being superseded by their own creations. Was it done before? Sure. But if that's a good reason to stop watching, then there is a good reason not to watch anymore superhero films as they usually end with "superhero saves the world". |
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 18, 2018 16:14:37 GMT
Never watched the show, although I do like the book. Westworld was never a book. The franchise started with a 1973 movie of the same name directed by the late Michael Crichton. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on May 18, 2018 16:16:02 GMT
Never watched the show, although I do like the book. Westworld was never a book. The franchise started with a 1973 movie of the same name directed by the late Michael Crichton. Really? I must have got it confused with something else. Huh. |
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NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on May 18, 2018 16:19:43 GMT
Westworld was never a book. The franchise started with a 1973 movie of the same name directed by the late Michael Crichton. Really? I must have got it confused with something else. Huh. I always assumed it was a Michael Crichton book. Although I never actually thought I'd read it.  |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 18, 2018 16:21:40 GMT
I dropped it after Episode 2 of this season. It's become the new Lost, it isn't about anything. As you said, the acting and cinematography are phenomenal; but it isn't about anything anymore. It's all filler. 'Here are more flashbacks for characters whose motivations have already been firmly established.' It was my biggest fear going into season 2 and it's been realized. Westworld as a concept is great; commentary about the human condition and the emotional journey of the machines becoming 'human.' But it was covered in season 1, and there's really nowhere interesting to go with the story at this point. Flashbacks and other fake worlds are just gimmicks to keep the plot moving, there's no real story there. It's already been renewed for season 3! Where are they going to go, robot Dark Ages? Robot Victorian England? Or does it become the Matrix or the Terminator? No thanks, I've seen that already. Well I've been watching season 2 and I haven't seen any filler as the definition of the word means "episodes that don't contribute to main plot". So far pretty much every episode in season 2 has been about the main plot. As for the flashbacks there were plenty of stuff in those flashbacks that we didn't know like what made Logan deciding to invest in the Westworld venture, that Dolores had actually made it the outside world before and the what exactly is the main purpose behind the park. As for where the show is going? I have no idea. The whole idea of the show was always in part about humanity being superseded by their own creations. Was it done before? Sure. But if that's a good reason to stop watching, then there is a good reason not to watch anymore superhero films as they usually end with "superhero saves the world". And you can feel free to do so. I don't see a compelling reason to continue watching Westworld, so I stopped watching it. |
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