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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 13:44:46 GMT
Well, it appears all the hate over the leaked photos of Starfire and Raven was unfounded and the actress who is playing Starfire was right about the photos being taken out of context. Below is a photo of how the team will look in the show and the costumes are far more comic book accurate than what many believed they would be. The Cast Of DC’s ‘Titans’ Assembles In Awesome Artwork heroichollywood.com/cast-titans-assembles-artwork/
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Post by dazz on May 19, 2018 14:03:22 GMT
That or A: the concern was warranted and when people pitched a fit over it the show runners shit a brick and ran around like chicken with their heads cut of scream change it, change it, change it for the love of god we have to change it or B: The artwork is bullshit and it'll still look like shit.
I am hoping you are right though, but lets be honest A & B are very real possibilities.
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Post by General Kenobi on May 19, 2018 14:17:07 GMT
Anything is possible. While the artwork more accurate, it's still art and not a photo. Hopefully this is how they actually look in the show.
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Post by stargazer1682 on May 19, 2018 17:55:17 GMT
Anything is possible. While the artwork more accurate, it's still art and not a photo. Hopefully this is how they actually look in the show. Yeah, this rendering has a heavy touched up/airbrushed look to it; and too much shadow.
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Post by General Kenobi on May 20, 2018 12:53:00 GMT
Yep. Which gives it an artificial look that doesn't help allay fears very much.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 13:11:22 GMT
That or A: the concern was warranted and when people pitched a fit over it the show runners shit a brick and ran around like chicken with their heads cut of scream change it, change it, change it for the love of god we have to change it or B: The artwork is bullshit and it'll still look like shit. I am hoping you are right though, but lets be honest A & B are very real possibilities. Yeah. I am hoping I am right too and I don't think we will have to wait much longer until the trailer is released and we get to see more pictures of all the characters in action wearing their costumes. The 'Arrowverse' has been pretty bad when it comes to superhero costumes for female characters and the only two female characters that have had costumes resembling their comic book costumes have been Supergirl and Stargirl. Black Canary, the Huntress, Saturn Girl, Starling, Jessie Quick and Speedy's costumes didn't look anything like their costumes in the comic books at all and they should have gone with the 'Birds of Prey New 52' costumes for Black Canary and the Huntress 'cause they were heaps better than the costumes they used. For those reasons it is hard to have faith in 'Titans' being faithful to Raven and Starfire's costumes but I feel some people really overreacted with Starfire and there was a lot of hate that was to do with the colour of the actress's skin.
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Post by dazz on May 29, 2018 17:58:58 GMT
I don't get the hate for that stuff tbh, sure it wasn't what I was expecting, but then the shows not got Cyborg so they were going to need to make someone black Io guess, but when I saw the mock ups people did for the actress as the character I thought it looked great, then we see a real photo and she looks like some cheep as shit looking hooker and that fucking hair my god was it shitty.
As is Starfire isn't human so her actors race doesn't mean dick imo, II get more annoye4d when they turn dorky ginger little Jimmy Olsen into a 6'5 kinda cocky black dude who towers over Superman, also my big thing with Olsen in SG has always been he's not likable imo, I loved Jimmy Olsen in pretty much every other adaptation I have seen but James Olsen has always sucked and never carried any of the typical Jimmy charm imo, I still wish we had got to see a Superman movie with Chris rock as Jimmy that could of been fun.
Anyone else though find the varying age of the titans kind of weird 14, 22, 28 & 30? like couldn't they try and group them better? also why is Raven played by the child, surely that should have been Beast Boy seeing how much of his shit is CGI or should be, why not if you were going to cast an actual kid make it for him.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 13:20:13 GMT
I don't get the hate for that stuff tbh, sure it wasn't what I was expecting, but then the shows not got Cyborg so they were going to need to make someone black Io guess, but when I saw the mock ups people did for the actress as the character I thought it looked great, then we see a real photo and she looks like some cheep as shit looking hooker and that fucking hair my god was it shitty. As is Starfire isn't human so her actors race doesn't mean dick imo, II get more annoye4d when they turn dorky ginger little Jimmy Olsen into a 6'5 kinda cocky black dude who towers over Superman, also my big thing with Olsen in SG has always been he's not likable imo, I loved Jimmy Olsen in pretty much every other adaptation I have seen but James Olsen has always sucked and never carried any of the typical Jimmy charm imo, I still wish we had got to see a Superman movie with Chris rock as Jimmy that could of been fun. Anyone else though find the varying age of the titans kind of weird 14, 22, 28 & 30? like couldn't they try and group them better? also why is Raven played by the child, surely that should have been Beast Boy seeing how much of his shit is CGI or should be, why not if you were going to cast an actual kid make it for him. I don't get the hate for it either but there are sadly a lot of racist online that complain over stupid things like that and abuse the actors and actresses who are cast in the roles claiming it is all part of some 'Black Lives Matter' conspiracy to screw over white people and make black people feel relevant. I don't care about the colour of the actor or actresses' skin but I do care about keeping the character true in personality and powers to the original or most popular incarnations in the comic books which 'Arrow' sadly haven't done with some characters and I also think they should wear their comic book costumes or at least something very similar. With Starfire there shouldn't be a problem with the actress wearing the purple costume as seen in the photo above or Amy Jackson wearing the white and red Saturn Girl costume on 'Supergirl.' Yeah. Her hair did look really bad in those photos but I am hoping it was a wig and what she was wearing was taken out of context like the actress suggested. Maybe it might be something like they did in the Sam Rami 'Spider-Man' movie and 'Batman Forever' with Robin having them wear bad costumes at first before changing to their proper ones but the wig just looks odd and I am not sure what they are thinking with it.
I agree about James Olsen. I don't think he is that cocky but he is definitely nothing like any of the previous adaptions of Jimmy Olsen we have had in movies and TV shows and I personally thought Justin Whalin's version in 'Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman' was the best 'cause he was funny and the James Olsen in 'Supergirl' is not funny at all and is kinda boring. I can kinda understand to an extent what the writers were saying back when the show first started about him being an older and more mature version of Jimmy Olsen but that didn't mean they had to change his personality completely and they still could have kept him funny and kinda dorky. I was thinking with African American actors the guy who played Kel in 'Keenan and Kel' would have been funny but I am not sure if he still acts anymore. Making Raven so young comes across as a bad idea and makes no sense and they have had Raven young in the comic books but they have also had her older and around the same age as Nightwing and Starfire and she even dated Dick for a short time when she was portrayed as being older. For a Live Action show I think an older actress would have been better for somebody as powerful as Raven.
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Post by General Kenobi on May 31, 2018 18:04:51 GMT
But I think that's where a lot of drama will come from. A lot of powerful in a wielder too young to properly use it. She will need the Titans to help her use abilities and protect her from herself and the various danger awaiting her.
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Post by stargazer1682 on May 31, 2018 22:49:25 GMT
I don't get the hate for that stuff tbh, sure it wasn't what I was expecting, but then the shows not got Cyborg so they were going to need to make someone black Io guess, but when I saw the mock ups people did for the actress as the character I thought it looked great, then we see a real photo and she looks like some cheep as shit looking hooker and that fucking hair my god was it shitty. As is Starfire isn't human so her actors race doesn't mean dick imo, II get more annoye4d when they turn dorky ginger little Jimmy Olsen into a 6'5 kinda cocky black dude who towers over Superman, also my big thing with Olsen in SG has always been he's not likable imo, I loved Jimmy Olsen in pretty much every other adaptation I have seen but James Olsen has always sucked and never carried any of the typical Jimmy charm imo, I still wish we had got to see a Superman movie with Chris rock as Jimmy that could of been fun. Anyone else though find the varying age of the titans kind of weird 14, 22, 28 & 30? like couldn't they try and group them better? also why is Raven played by the child, surely that should have been Beast Boy seeing how much of his shit is CGI or should be, why not if you were going to cast an actual kid make it for him. I don't get the hate for it either but there are sadly a lot of racist online that complain over stupid things like that and abuse the actors and actresses who are cast in the roles claiming it is all part of some 'Black Lives Matter' conspiracy to screw over white people and make black people feel relevant. I don't care about the colour of the actor or actresses' skin but I do care about keeping the character true in personality and powers to the original or most popular incarnations in the comic books which 'Arrow' sadly haven't done with some characters and I also think they should wear their comic book costumes or at least something very similar. With Starfire there shouldn't be a problem with the actress wearing the purple costume as seen in the photo above or Amy Jackson wearing the white and red Saturn Girl costume on 'Supergirl.' Yeah. Her hair did look really bad in those photos but I am hoping it was a wig and what she was wearing was taken out of context like the actress suggested. Maybe it might be something like they did in the Sam Rami 'Spider-Man' movie and 'Batman Forever' with Robin having them wear bad costumes at first before changing to their proper ones but the wig just looks odd and I am not sure what they are thinking with it.
I agree about James Olsen. I don't think he is that cocky but he is definitely nothing like any of the previous adaptions of Jimmy Olsen we have had in movies and TV shows and I personally thought Justin Whalin's version in 'Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman' was the best 'cause he was funny and the James Olsen in 'Supergirl' is not funny at all and is kinda boring. I can kinda understand to an extent what the writers were saying back when the show first started about him being an older and more mature version of Jimmy Olsen but that didn't mean they had to change his personality completely and they still could have kept him funny and kinda dorky. I was thinking with African American actors the guy who played Kel in 'Keenan and Kel' would have been funny but I am not sure if he still acts anymore. Making Raven so young comes across as a bad idea and makes no sense and they have had Raven young in the comic books but they have also had her older and around the same age as Nightwing and Starfire and she even dated Dick for a short time when she was portrayed as being older. For a Live Action show I think an older actress would have been better for somebody as powerful as Raven. The thing is, is that comic book Jimmy has, by and large, been kept in a state of arrested development for decades. Every once in a while they'll do a story where he does something independent to suggest some form of growth, but it's all pretty much undone or retconned all together before long; because they feel the need to pull him back to where he was as a character perpetually hovering between his teens and twenties, who Superman can play big brother to. Dick Grayson at least got to move on and grow-up, and they found other ways of filling that dynamic void with Batman; mainly by bringing in new Robins. The live action adaptations of Jimmy Olsen have been kind of meandering and generic in my opinion; and I think it comes down to the lack of real substantial qualities to build a character on who isn't going to remain static over the course of the series by virtue of being someone who will physically get older, combined with a fairly shallow well in the source materials to draw from. Sure, Jimmy in the comics may be witty, but so are a lot of characters; especially on the CW shows. There's a preponderance of characters who mark snarky comments and humorous pop culture references, that it's hardly a defining character trait in it's own right; especially on Supergirl where you already have Winn filling that role. Meanwhile there aren't a lot of other distinguishing characteristics, especially that would play in this day and age. The gobsmacked, "awe shucks," type of Jimmy Olsen as seen in the George Reeves series or Christopher Reeve movies is kind of an outdated stock character now. And where you mentioned Lois and Clark, look at the difference between their first version of Jimmy and their second; they couldn't even decide what sort of character Jimmy should be, and did an extreme and seemingly arbitrary about face after a full season going one way with the character. So much so they had to recast the part. I didn't mind either version, since they served different purposes in the show. The latter take on Jimmy might have been closer to the comics, but still more of a character who's main descriptive trait was, "a warm body," than anything else. And then there was Smallville's take on Jimmy.....[sigh] Admittedly Supergirl's Jimmy isn't much better, but I think it's just a general uncertainty of what to do with him, much the same way they didn't know what to do with Quentin or Thea, or Rip. Poor Joe - the writers can't think of anything constructive for him to do, so they give him a new kids to raise. I mean, if nothing else you'd think they might at least try to pull some strings and see if there's any b-roll from Jesse Martin's time on Law and Order they could string into the occasional secondary story.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 11:41:53 GMT
I don't get the hate for it either but there are sadly a lot of racist online that complain over stupid things like that and abuse the actors and actresses who are cast in the roles claiming it is all part of some 'Black Lives Matter' conspiracy to screw over white people and make black people feel relevant. I don't care about the colour of the actor or actresses' skin but I do care about keeping the character true in personality and powers to the original or most popular incarnations in the comic books which 'Arrow' sadly haven't done with some characters and I also think they should wear their comic book costumes or at least something very similar. With Starfire there shouldn't be a problem with the actress wearing the purple costume as seen in the photo above or Amy Jackson wearing the white and red Saturn Girl costume on 'Supergirl.' Yeah. Her hair did look really bad in those photos but I am hoping it was a wig and what she was wearing was taken out of context like the actress suggested. Maybe it might be something like they did in the Sam Rami 'Spider-Man' movie and 'Batman Forever' with Robin having them wear bad costumes at first before changing to their proper ones but the wig just looks odd and I am not sure what they are thinking with it.
I agree about James Olsen. I don't think he is that cocky but he is definitely nothing like any of the previous adaptions of Jimmy Olsen we have had in movies and TV shows and I personally thought Justin Whalin's version in 'Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman' was the best 'cause he was funny and the James Olsen in 'Supergirl' is not funny at all and is kinda boring. I can kinda understand to an extent what the writers were saying back when the show first started about him being an older and more mature version of Jimmy Olsen but that didn't mean they had to change his personality completely and they still could have kept him funny and kinda dorky. I was thinking with African American actors the guy who played Kel in 'Keenan and Kel' would have been funny but I am not sure if he still acts anymore. Making Raven so young comes across as a bad idea and makes no sense and they have had Raven young in the comic books but they have also had her older and around the same age as Nightwing and Starfire and she even dated Dick for a short time when she was portrayed as being older. For a Live Action show I think an older actress would have been better for somebody as powerful as Raven. The thing is, is that comic book Jimmy has, by and large, been kept in a state of arrested development for decades. Every once in a while they'll do a story where he does something independent to suggest some form of growth, but it's all pretty much undone or retconned all together before long; because they feel the need to pull him back to where he was as a character perpetually hovering between his teens and twenties, who Superman can play big brother to. Dick Grayson at least got to move on and grow-up, and they found other ways of filling that dynamic void with Batman; mainly by bringing in new Robins. The live action adaptations of Jimmy Olsen have been kind of meandering and generic in my opinion; and I think it comes down to the lack of real substantial qualities to build a character on who isn't going to remain static over the course of the series by virtue of being someone who will physically get older, combined with a fairly shallow well in the source materials to draw from. Sure, Jimmy in the comics may be witty, but so are a lot of characters; especially on the CW shows. There's a preponderance of characters who mark snarky comments and humorous pop culture references, that it's hardly a defining character trait in it's own right; especially on Supergirl where you already have Winn filling that role. Meanwhile there aren't a lot of other distinguishing characteristics, especially that would play in this day and age. The gobsmacked, "awe shucks," type of Jimmy Olsen as seen in the George Reeves series or Christopher Reeve movies is kind of an outdated stock character now. And where you mentioned Lois and Clark, look at the difference between their first version of Jimmy and their second; they couldn't even decide what sort of character Jimmy should be, and did an extreme and seemingly arbitrary about face after a full season going one way with the character. So much so they had to recast the part. I didn't mind either version, since they served different purposes in the show. The latter take on Jimmy might have been closer to the comics, but still more of a character who's main descriptive trait was, "a warm body," than anything else. And then there was Smallville's take on Jimmy.....[sigh] Admittedly Supergirl's Jimmy isn't much better, but I think it's just a general uncertainty of what to do with him, much the same way they didn't know what to do with Quentin or Thea, or Rip. Poor Joe - the writers can't think of anything constructive for him to do, so they give him a new kids to raise. I mean, if nothing else you'd think they might at least try to pull some strings and see if there's any b-roll from Jesse Martin's time on Law and Order they could string into the occasional secondary story. You bring up a lot of good points about Jimmy Stargazzer1682 and I agree, he has not evolved much as a character in the comic books over the years ‘cause every time he has come close to evolving the writers have retconned the character but sadly they have done the same thing with other characters too and I think there are some characters the writers don’t care really care about that just exist to be background characters that occasionally get more prominent roles when it is convenient to the plot, they help forward the protagonist’s story or when they need another character and don’t know who else to use and Jimmy Olsen is somebody who fits that role. Still, I think they have done a better job with Jimmy Olsen in live action than Cat Grant and Cat Grant’s personality and age has been all over the place from the versions in ‘Lois and Clark’, ‘Smallville’ and ‘Supergirl.’
You might not remember but there were two different versions of Cat Grant in ‘Smallville and I think we were supposed to forget the first version ‘cause she was so different than the character they had in the final season and the first version was played by Emilie Ullerup and went on a blind date with Clark when Lois and Clark were trying to get the role of the host of ‘Good Morning Metropolis’ and it ended up going to Clark at the end and the second one was so different in personality it was like she was not even the same character and they didn’t acknowledge she went on a blind date with Clark when she was working with Clark at the Daily Planet. I think one of the main problems with Jimmy in ‘Smallville’ (or James Olsen since remember he wasn’t the real Jimmy Olsen and was his older brother ) apart from him being poorly written he was kinda redundant in the show with Chloe Sullivan and Chloe took his spot.
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Post by General Kenobi on Jun 13, 2018 13:01:23 GMT
I forgot any version of Cat Grant appeared on Smallville, let alone two.
Looked them up on the Smallville wiki to jog my memory.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 13:21:41 GMT
I forgot any version of Cat Grant appeared on Smallville, let alone two. Looked them up on the Smallville wiki to jog my memory. Yeah. There were two. I remembered 'cause the first actress (Emilie Ullerup) played Ashley in 'Sanctuary' and I was disappointed they didn't bring her back for the final season.
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Post by General Kenobi on Jun 15, 2018 14:42:24 GMT
Final season of 'Smallville' or 'Sanctuary'?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 13:29:00 GMT
Final season of 'Smallville' or 'Sanctuary'? Final season of 'Smallville.' This was the first Cat Grant in 'Smallville' And here is the second one. I am not sure why they changed the actress but as I mentioned above she had a completely different personality and was like a different character and I think that may have had something to do with it..
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Post by General Kenobi on Jun 21, 2018 15:51:38 GMT
Did they change actresses or is it a case of different character/same name? Because iirc, they had two distinct personalities and backstories.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 12:20:55 GMT
Did they change actresses or is it a case of different character/same name? Because iirc, they had two distinct personalities and backstories. You see, that is the thing. I am not sure. They did have distinct personalities and backstories and if it was a new show with new characters I could see it being some type of mix up like that but when it comes to a Superman TV show with Cat Grant who is one of Superman's most well known side characters thanks to being in 'Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman' before I don't think it was just a coincidence and I believe she was the original Cat Grant they were going for and then they changed their minds and rewrote the character and got a different actress to play her. Here are some updates about Raven and Beast Boy for 'Titans.' DC’s ‘Titans’: Raven Actress Shares Message As She Wraps Filming
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Post by General Kenobi on Jun 29, 2018 17:12:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 13:44:06 GMT
Well, that's just confusing. I still think Emilie Ullerup was their original choice and they changed their minds. It is too coincidental to have two Cat Grants on a Superman show especially when the Cat Grant in the comics full name is Catherine too.
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Post by BexxyJ on Jul 10, 2018 14:02:09 GMT
Final season of 'Smallville' or 'Sanctuary'? Final season of 'Smallville.' This was the first Cat Grant in 'Smallville' And here is the second one. I am not sure why they changed the actress but as I mentioned above she had a completely different personality and was like a different character and I think that may have had something to do with it.. Damn. That 2nd one was annoying. I couldn't stand her in the episodes she was in. Was she the prototype to Felicity? I don't remember Chloe being that annoying.
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