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Post by merh on May 20, 2018 23:47:36 GMT
Insert Superman for Avengers Batman Wonder Woman. So you going to make Bruce Wayne behave? Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman fought Steppenwolf and the parademons. They didn't attack citizens of Russia like the Avengers attacked citizens of Sokovia. So Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman didn't commit any action that could be considered an act of war against Russia, unlike the Avengers, who attacked citizen of Sokovia, which can be considered an act of war against Sokovia and any allies of Sokovia. They went into Russia without Russia's permission The Avengers didnt attack sokovia. They attacked Ultron who was in Sokovia Would England have preferred fighting Malekith on their own?
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Post by DC-Fan on May 21, 2018 0:39:20 GMT
It was the Avengers and the Guardians who helped Thanos acquire all of the Infinity Stones so the Avengers and Guardians are responsible for the deaths of more than half the universe. Thanos was still the one killed half the universe, not the Avengers or Guardians. All they did was fail to stop him. The Avengers and Guardians did more than just fail to stop Thanos. They directly helped Thanos acquire the Infinity Stones. It's basically like saying the pilots dropped the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But someone else built the bombs that the pilots dropped. And the Avengers and Guardians basically created the weapon that Thanos used by directly helping Thanos acquire the necessary parts for that weapon.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 21, 2018 0:45:15 GMT
Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman fought Steppenwolf and the parademons. They didn't attack citizens of Russia like the Avengers attacked citizens of Sokovia. So Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman didn't commit any action that could be considered an act of war against Russia, unlike the Avengers, who attacked citizen of Sokovia, which can be considered an act of war against Sokovia and any allies of Sokovia. They went into Russia without Russia's permission The Avengers didnt attack sokovia. They attacked Ultron who was in Sokovia Would England have preferred fighting Malekith on their own? 1st, the Avengers attacked a HYDRA base in Sokovia. Cap even kicked his vibranium shield into Strucker with such force that Strucker was sent flying into the wall. So the Avengers attacked Sokovian citizens, which can be considered an act of war by the U.S. against Sokovia. 2nd, the Justice League did have permission to go into Russia. If you read Action Comics #285, the U.N. gave Superman an international visa, which allows him to travel to any country in the world.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on May 21, 2018 2:08:50 GMT
Thanos was still the one killed half the universe, not the Avengers or Guardians. All they did was fail to stop him. The Avengers and Guardians did more than just fail to stop Thanos. They directly helped Thanos acquire the Infinity Stones. It's basically like saying the pilots dropped the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But someone else built the bombs that the pilots dropped. And the Avengers and Guardians basically created the weapon that Thanos used by directly helping Thanos acquire the necessary parts for that weapon. Try harder. Everything you're bitching about is called character flaws and development, something DC knows nothing of
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Post by merh on May 21, 2018 2:41:04 GMT
They went into Russia without Russia's permission The Avengers didnt attack sokovia. They attacked Ultron who was in Sokovia Would England have preferred fighting Malekith on their own? 1st, the Avengers attacked a HYDRA base in Sokovia. Cap even kicked his vibranium shield into Strucker with such force that Strucker was sent flying into the wall. So the Avengers attacked Sokovian citizens, which can be considered an act of war by the U.S. against Sokovia. 2nd, the Justice League did have permission to go into Russia. If you read Action Comics #285, the U.N. gave Superman an international visa, which allows him to travel to any country in the world. Comic book has squat to do with the movie. Supes died. Bats Frankensteined him. Movie would require permission. Hell, by your standard Thor was worshipped by many Europeans at one time so he has the right to go all over as their god. Hell, per mythology & the comics, his mother is the embodiment of planet earth, Gaia. He can go wherever he wants on his mama's world. Strucker was German His people were Hydra. After Winter Soldier Hydra was mop up. They were the bad guys. You need to watch Agents of SHIELD
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 21, 2018 14:07:35 GMT
Comic book has squat to do with the movie. Supes died. Bats Frankensteined him. Movie would require permission. Hell, by your standard Thor was worshipped by many Europeans at one time so he has the right to go all over as their god. Hell, per mythology & the comics, his mother is the embodiment of planet earth, Gaia. He can go wherever he wants on his mama's world. Strucker was German His people were Hydra. After Winter Soldier Hydra was mop up. They were the bad guys. You need to watch Agents of SHIELD Nah, you need to rewatch it.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 21, 2018 15:34:38 GMT
Thanos was still the one killed half the universe, not the Avengers or Guardians. All they did was fail to stop him. The Avengers and Guardians did more than just fail to stop Thanos. They directly helped Thanos acquire the Infinity Stones. It's basically like saying the pilots dropped the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But someone else built the bombs that the pilots dropped. And the Avengers and Guardians basically created the weapon that Thanos used by directly helping Thanos acquire the necessary parts for that weapon. Lies make baby Jesus cry.
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Post by Power Ranger on May 21, 2018 16:22:55 GMT
Half of them have probably tried to plan trips to Sokovia.
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 21, 2018 16:56:00 GMT
Point taken, the Justice League Blu-ray addresses the same when, in a deleted scene, Putin gives the JL express permission to invade a small Russian community and rearrange the real estate, cause massive property damage and smile victoriously over the corpses of their enemies.
Does Diana Prince have a visa to live in France? We all know Superman is an illegal alien who should submit himself for deportation by I.C.E. but, not before he makes reparations for that busted satellite. Get naturalized Kal-El. IT'S THE LAW!
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 21, 2018 19:02:40 GMT
The Avengers and Guardians did more than just fail to stop Thanos. They directly helped Thanos acquire the Infinity Stones. It's basically like saying the pilots dropped the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But someone else built the bombs that the pilots dropped. And the Avengers and Guardians basically created the weapon that Thanos used by directly helping Thanos acquire the necessary parts for that weapon. Lies make baby Jesus cry. Nah, the historicity of Jesus is dubious at best.
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Post by merh on May 22, 2018 1:51:21 GMT
Comic book has squat to do with the movie. Supes died. Bats Frankensteined him. Movie would require permission. Hell, by your standard Thor was worshipped by many Europeans at one time so he has the right to go all over as their god. Hell, per mythology & the comics, his mother is the embodiment of planet earth, Gaia. He can go wherever he wants on his mama's world. Strucker was German His people were Hydra. After Winter Soldier Hydra was mop up. They were the bad guys. You need to watch Agents of SHIELD Nah, you need to rewatch it. I do watch AoS. Coulson retired & will possibly be dead in days
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 22, 2018 2:20:57 GMT
Nah, you need to rewatch it. I do watch AoS. Coulson retired & will possibly be dead in days Nah, he's going to live.
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Post by merh on May 22, 2018 7:46:30 GMT
I do watch AoS. Coulson retired & will possibly be dead in days Nah, he's going to live. The actor's contract was up so he was saying he was done, but apparently it was the old negotiation thing. Clark Gregg might be back.
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Post by sostie on May 22, 2018 8:22:29 GMT
They went into Russia without Russia's permission The Avengers didnt attack sokovia. They attacked Ultron who was in Sokovia Would England have preferred fighting Malekith on their own? 2nd, the Justice League did have permission to go into Russia. If you read Action Comics #285, the U.N. gave Superman an international visa, which allows him to travel to any country in the world. I'm pretty sure you have argued against MCU fans referring to back stories in comics in relation to movies. So Superman was given permission back in 1962? Anyway...what issues were Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg given permission to go to Russia?
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