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Post by chasallnut on Mar 20, 2017 12:33:16 GMT
Who is campaigning for abortion? Again, simply because someone doesn't agree with you, you make things up. Yes I am male. This seems to be a problem for you. You display a dislike for all things male, therefore fuelling your prejudices. And I have no idea what you mean by "you have time on your side" What generation would that be? As you have probably noticed she has a habit of talking out of her arse. She certainly has a habit of making things up.
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Post by phludowin on Mar 20, 2017 13:18:35 GMT
If pro-choice means 'I let the woman choose what to do' or 'I support the woman's right to choose,' then shouldn't that also mean supporting a woman's right to choose to make a meal of soda? Her right to choose to smoke a cigarette wherever she wants? Her right to home school her children without government conditions? Her right to decline health care she does not believe is helpful? Since it obviously does not mean those things then maybe you're the one who needs to revise terms. That's the second time in this thread that you've made this bizarre claim. Repeating a lie usually doesn't make it true.
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Post by vernuf on Mar 20, 2017 14:57:11 GMT
Please don't speak for me dear when you can barely speak for yourself. I am not pro abortion. I don't condone nor would I have an abortion ( except in severe foetal health issues) I do support a woman's right to choose as I don't believe I have the right to tell someone else what to do with their body nor do I believe in placing my moral code on others. But you already know this and are just being obtuse. With regards to your blatant lie that I stated I could not find uk ones I very clearly wrote that I had still to find up to date ones as I only found ones from 2006. Do keep on telling fibs dear when the truth is actually in the very thread people are reading as it just adds more weight to people's assertions that you and the truth are only passing acqUintances. It would seem that KS is applying labels to people that she either disagrees with or her prejudices dictate. That is completely disingenuous and dishonest. Nada, er, Kate disingenuous and dishonest? I'm shocked I tell you, shocked.
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Post by vernuf on Mar 20, 2017 15:03:30 GMT
To label people because of her own prejudices and view those labels as correct is delusional. Keep on campaigning for abortion, you still can't make us do it - yet at least. You're male I would not expect any different. Sadly for you I am not delusional, and I have time on my side. My children's generation is significantly more pro-life than your generation is. Sadly for you, if you're not delusional, you're one of the most dishonest people the world has ever known as very rarely do you say anything that reflects reality even a little bit.
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 20, 2017 15:49:41 GMT
We're talking 'pro-choice' in the context of a debate about abortion Arlon, as in 'I believe the woman should be the one to choose'. Then you agree the term is misrepresentative in general use.Be even more help and get another term.
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 20, 2017 15:52:46 GMT
If pro-choice means 'I let the woman choose what to do' or 'I support the woman's right to choose,' then shouldn't that also mean supporting a woman's right to choose to make a meal of soda? Her right to choose to smoke a cigarette wherever she wants? Her right to home school her children without government conditions? Her right to decline health care she does not believe is helpful? Since it obviously does not mean those things then maybe you're the one who needs to revise terms. That's the second time in this thread that you've made this bizarre claim. Repeating a lie usually doesn't make it true. The same as calling it a lie doesn't make it one. C'est la vie.
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Post by deviates on Mar 20, 2017 17:33:40 GMT
What I have witnessed is that she is basing whole swathes of demographics on singular experience or anecdotes. Well what good are thorough and representative polls when one has an anecdote up their sleeve?
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Post by awhina on Mar 20, 2017 22:57:52 GMT
Keep on campaigning for abortion, you still can't make us do it - yet at least. You're male I would not expect any different. Sadly for you I am not delusional, and I have time on my side. My children's generation is significantly more pro-life than your generation is. Who is campaigning for abortion? Again, simply because someone doesn't agree with you, you make things up. Yes I am male. This seems to be a problem for you. You display a dislike for all things male, therefore fuelling your prejudices. And I have no idea what you mean by "you have time on your side" What generation would that be? My only problem with your being male is when you presume to know that women are better off not having children. I presume that you are my generation, and I know that today's teens and 20-30 year old people are more likely to be pro-life than the old. So time is on my side not yours. Young women are realising that they've been sold a farrago of nonsense - casual sex and abortion as contraceptive are unhappy unhealthy and dangerous.
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Post by awhina on Mar 20, 2017 23:04:04 GMT
Who is campaigning for abortion? Again, simply because someone doesn't agree with you, you make things up. Yes I am male. This seems to be a problem for you. You display a dislike for all things male, therefore fuelling your prejudices. And I have no idea what you mean by "you have time on your side" What generation would that be? I am unsure why she states her children's generation are far mor pro life.... All the stats given can show age ranges. www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/health/abortion/AbortionStatistics_HOTPYeDec15.aspx. Plus basing e perience on just her children is hardly indicative of a whole generation! Learn to read London. I said my children's generation, not my children. This means their cousins, partners, partner's family and friends etc
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Post by awhina on Mar 20, 2017 23:08:07 GMT
What I have witnessed is that she is basing whole swathes of demographics on singular experience or anecdotes. Well what good are thorough and representative polls when one has an anecdote up their sleeve? If you think that polls are representative I have a bridge you might like to buy...
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Post by Jonesy1 on Mar 21, 2017 0:40:00 GMT
Well what good are thorough and representative polls when one has an anecdote up their sleeve? If you think that polls are representative I have a bridge you might like to buy... They're far more representative than anything you come out with.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 0:59:11 GMT
Well what good are thorough and representative polls when one has an anecdote up their sleeve? If you think that polls are representative I have a bridge you might like to buy... Which is more likely to be representative of people's opinions: Your questionable anecdotes from your limited social interactions with a few dozen people on a subject you are completely biased about. Or Independent polling organisations interviewing a cross section of thousands of different people of all different ages,genders,religions and social status. The answer if you're not a self deluded old mare is of course rather obvious. The only person who bought the Brooklyn bridge is you Ada and what's more you sold it to yourself decades ago,that you continue to try and sell it to the rest of us on an almost daily basis speaks to your idiocy. The world and the people in it do not think like you think they do. That's the reality and no amount of self delusion will alter that.
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Post by chasallnut on Mar 21, 2017 9:28:52 GMT
Who is campaigning for abortion? Again, simply because someone doesn't agree with you, you make things up. Yes I am male. This seems to be a problem for you. You display a dislike for all things male, therefore fuelling your prejudices. And I have no idea what you mean by "you have time on your side" What generation would that be? My only problem with your being male is when you presume to know that women are better off not having children. I presume that you are my generation, and I know that today's teens and 20-30 year old people are more likely to be pro-life than the old. So time is on my side not yours. Young women are realising that they've been sold a farrago of nonsense - casual sex and abortion as contraceptive are unhappy unhealthy and dangerous. Who is presuming to know that women are better off not having children? I am certainly making no presumption. All the assumptions and presumptions are being made by you. My stance is that the woman who is pregnant is the one that should make the decision, not you or I regardless of gender.
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Post by awhina on Mar 21, 2017 9:42:56 GMT
My only problem with your being male is when you presume to know that women are better off not having children. I presume that you are my generation, and I know that today's teens and 20-30 year old people are more likely to be pro-life than the old. So time is on my side not yours. Young women are realising that they've been sold a farrago of nonsense - casual sex and abortion as contraceptive are unhappy unhealthy and dangerous. Who is presuming to know that women are better off not having children? I am certainly making no presumption. All the assumptions and presumptions are being made by you. My stance is that the woman who is pregnant is the one that should make the decision, not you or I regardless of gender. So you'll be fine when, a few years from now screening for everything is possible, girls kill their child because in 70 years it has a greater risk of Alzheimers? Is it okay for a man to insist that his girlfriend abort because their baby might have astigmatism? If you were heterosexual and got a woman pregnant does she have your permission to abort if a test shows that the child will be a girl and her father will leave her his millions only if she has a boy?
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Post by Jonesy1 on Mar 21, 2017 9:44:26 GMT
Who is presuming to know that women are better off not having children? I am certainly making no presumption. All the assumptions and presumptions are being made by you. My stance is that the woman who is pregnant is the one that should make the decision, not you or I regardless of gender. So you'll be fine when, a few years from now screening for everything is possible, girls kill their child because in 70 years it has a greater risk of Alzheimers? Is it okay for a man to insist that his girlfriend abort because their baby might have astigmatism? If you were heterosexual and got a woman pregnant does she have your permission to abort if a test shows that the child will be a girl and her father will leave her his millions only if she has a boy? Is there a name for what's wrong with you?
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Post by chasallnut on Mar 21, 2017 9:47:35 GMT
Who is presuming to know that women are better off not having children? I am certainly making no presumption. All the assumptions and presumptions are being made by you. My stance is that the woman who is pregnant is the one that should make the decision, not you or I regardless of gender. So you'll be fine when, a few years from now screening for everything is possible, girls kill their child because in 70 years it has a greater risk of Alzheimers? Is it okay for a man to insist that his girlfriend abort because their baby might have astigmatism? If you were heterosexual and got a woman pregnant does she have your permission to abort if a test shows that the child will be a girl and her father will leave her his millions only if she has a boy? Sorry I couldn't help but laugh at the massive extrapolation and obvious misandry in that post.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 9:50:15 GMT
Who is presuming to know that women are better off not having children? I am certainly making no presumption. All the assumptions and presumptions are being made by you. My stance is that the woman who is pregnant is the one that should make the decision, not you or I regardless of gender. So you'll be fine when, a few years from now screening for everything is possible, girls kill their child because in 70 years it has a greater risk of Alzheimers? Is it okay for a man to insist that his girlfriend abort because their baby might have astigmatism? If you were heterosexual and got a woman pregnant does she have your permission to abort if a test shows that the child will be a girl and her father will leave her his millions only if she has a boy? Stop making up strawman positions and ridiculous "what if" scenarios that have no basis in reality. Women are the masters of their own destiny when it comes to abortion not men. Why is that rather simple fact so hard for you to wrap your tiny mind around Ada?
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Post by Jonesy1 on Mar 21, 2017 9:51:59 GMT
So you'll be fine when, a few years from now screening for everything is possible, girls kill their child because in 70 years it has a greater risk of Alzheimers? Is it okay for a man to insist that his girlfriend abort because their baby might have astigmatism? If you were heterosexual and got a woman pregnant does she have your permission to abort if a test shows that the child will be a girl and her father will leave her his millions only if she has a boy? Why is the rather simple fact so hard for you to wrap your tiny mind around Ada? That could take a long time to answer.
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Post by awhina on Mar 21, 2017 9:53:11 GMT
So you'll be fine when, a few years from now screening for everything is possible, girls kill their child because in 70 years it has a greater risk of Alzheimers? Is it okay for a man to insist that his girlfriend abort because their baby might have astigmatism? If you were heterosexual and got a woman pregnant does she have your permission to abort if a test shows that the child will be a girl and her father will leave her his millions only if she has a boy? Is there a name for what's wrong with you? Are you capable of posting anything other than zingers? Just as on board v 1.0, you don't actually post anything of substance.
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Post by awhina on Mar 21, 2017 9:54:16 GMT
So you'll be fine when, a few years from now screening for everything is possible, girls kill their child because in 70 years it has a greater risk of Alzheimers? Is it okay for a man to insist that his girlfriend abort because their baby might have astigmatism? If you were heterosexual and got a woman pregnant does she have your permission to abort if a test shows that the child will be a girl and her father will leave her his millions only if she has a boy? Sorry I couldn't help but laugh at the massive extrapolation and obvious misandry in that post.
Troll. DFTT
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