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Post by coldenhaulfield on Sept 30, 2018 4:18:03 GMT
It was really good—by far my favorite of the prequels, and I think I’d rate it above Return of the Jedi as well. I thought it was well-made in that the direction was very good and the sets and effects were impressive… What do you mean? By the by, of those I’ve seen I’d probably rank them like this: The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi
Attack of the Clones
The Phantom Menace (which I don’t like putting at the bottom, as there were so many elements I liked in it and it’s better filmed and especially lit than Clones, but it felt rather pointless and not particularly memorable) I just meant that it wasn't the most well made of the Star Wars movies from a critical standpoint, not that it wasn't a well made film. So basically you hated it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 14:44:00 GMT
I just meant that it wasn't the most well made of the Star Wars movies from a critical standpoint, not that it wasn't a well made film. So basically you hated it. The only thing I hate is sand. It is coarse and dry and gets everywhere.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Sept 30, 2018 14:48:50 GMT
So basically you hated it. The only thing I hate is sand. It is coarse and dry and gets everywhere. Everyone rags on that line, and sure it's stilted. But what always gets me is how they abruptly cut the Williams music dead when she rejects the kiss. That part always seemed so GOOFY to me, just in terms of how it was produced overall.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 14:56:47 GMT
The only thing I hate is sand. It is coarse and dry and gets everywhere. Everyone rags on that line, and sure it's stilted. But what always gets me is how they abruptly cut the Williams music dead when she rejects the kiss. That part always seemed so GOOFY to me, just in terms of how it was produced overall. Wow I somehow never noticed that. I will have to watch that scene again.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 30, 2018 15:06:40 GMT
So basically you hated it. The only thing I hate is sand. It is coarse and dry and gets everywhere. You’re from a desert planet too? Everybody’s from a desert planet. It’s a small galaxy after all! Actually, I was reading all the criticisms/mockeries of that line—and, I’ve got to say, I don’t get ’em. It seemed to make sense to me in context. Anakin hates sand because it reminds him of the planet where all these terrible things happened, and he wanted to leave and take his mother with him. The line directly responds to Padmé’s comment about lying in the sand or something like that. I had no qualms with the line. More than that, I didn’t mind the dialogue either. I love this stuff—big, grandiose, operatic, epical storytelling—and it often has lines that some see as clichéd and goofy. There’s a reason why they’re clichéd and goofy.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 30, 2018 15:11:54 GMT
Also: the only one of the six I found to have genuinely bad filmmaking was Attack of the Clones. Not sure why, but it seemed like the crew were out to lunch on that one. I suppose the handling of dialogue in Star Wars was weak as well—well, really just the opening Vader-Leia scene. I had qualms with Return of the Jedi’s climax, but those were mostly apropos of storytelling, not filmmaking. OK, moving on.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 15:16:30 GMT
The only thing I hate is sand. It is coarse and dry and gets everywhere. You’re from a desert planet too? Everybody’s from a desert planet. It’s a small galaxy after all! Actually, I was reading all the criticisms/mockeries of that line—and, I’ve got to say, I don’t get ’em. It seemed to make sense to me in context. Anakin hates sand because it reminds him of the planet where all these terrible things happened, and he wanted to leave and take his mother with him. The line directly responds to Padmé’s comment about lying in the sand or something like that. I had no qualms with the line. More than that, I didn’t mind the dialogue either. I love this stuff—big, grandiose, operatic, epical storytelling—and it often has lines that some see as clichéd and goofy. There’s a reason why they’re clichéd and goofy. I think it is just one of those things that is funny when taken out of context. The line does make sense for Anakin to say.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 1, 2018 19:06:24 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 1, 2018 19:41:01 GMT
For my first few seconds of staring at it, I couldn’t understand why emoji-Leia was attached on a string to a gigantic slipper. Jabba’s not a slipper.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 1, 2018 19:47:48 GMT
For my first few seconds of staring at it, I couldn’t understand why emoji-Leia was attached on a string to a gigantic slipper. Jabba’s not a slipper.HO HO HO!
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 4, 2018 23:41:32 GMT
1. I’m watching Star Wars again. I stumbled across a copy of the original version on Reddit, so I’m taking a look at the changes. I’m obviously not going to do a play-by-play again, but I just want to say a few things. First, there’s this shot I must have missed my first time around of Leia in a white cloak giving the files to R2. I can’t even tell what it is about the shot, but it’s beautifully composed, something out of a fairy tale (which, of course, this is). Second, while I definitely had my own criticisms of the prequels, I’m baffled by the hatred for them I’ve been reading. Watching this becomes a different and (dare I say it) more fulfilling experience after those. Everything becomes full-circle, and it almost touches a vein—the fairy tale vein, I think. Mystery and magic and something beyond oneself, like The Wizard of Oz. I’m overanalyzing it. 2. Yes, of course I’m crazy. What do you expect?
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 20, 2018 0:23:39 GMT
OK, so here we go, let’s round up the usual suspects: @forceghostackbar , President Ackbar™ , coldenhaulfield , Tristan's Journal , No Morpho, Only Bánh mì , Hauntedknight87 , Primemovermithrax Pejorative , and some new friends, Waxer-n-boil, ryboto , @snakeeyes43 , Jedan Archer , who have joined in. The Force Awakens, yeah. You guys have, well, tempered my expectations, so let’s so how this goes.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 20, 2018 0:26:02 GMT
OK, so here we go, let’s round up the usual suspects: @forceghostackbar , President Ackbar™ , coldenhaulfield , Tristan's Journal , No Morpho, Only Bánh mì , Hauntedknight87 , Primemovermithrax Pejorative , and some new friends, Waxer-n-boil, ryboto , @snakeeyes43 , Jedan Archer , who have joined in. The Force Awakens, yeah. You guys have, well, tempered my expectations, so let’s so how this goes. Keep in mind: it's not canon, Lucas had nothing to do with it and disowned it, and I won't like you anymore if you say a single good thing about it. OKAY, ENJOY!!!!!!1
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 20, 2018 0:26:28 GMT
OK, so here we go, let’s round up the usual suspects: @forceghostackbar , President Ackbar™ , coldenhaulfield , Tristan's Journal , No Morpho, Only Bánh mì , Hauntedknight87 , Primemovermithrax Pejorative , and some new friends, Waxer-n-boil, ryboto , @snakeeyes43 , Jedan Archer , who have joined in. The Force Awakens, yeah. You guys have, well, tempered my expectations, so let’s so how this goes. Woot! Looking forward to reading your reaction!
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 20, 2018 0:26:45 GMT
OK, so here we go, let’s round up the usual suspects: @forceghostackbar , President Ackbar™ , coldenhaulfield , Tristan's Journal , No Morpho, Only Bánh mì , Hauntedknight87 , Primemovermithrax Pejorative , and some new friends, Waxer-n-boil , ryboto , @snakeeyes43 , Jedan Archer , who have joined in. The Force Awakens, yeah. You guys have, well, tempered my expectations, so let’s so how this goes.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 20, 2018 0:27:21 GMT
OK, so here we go, let’s round up the usual suspects: @forceghostackbar , President Ackbar™ , coldenhaulfield , Tristan's Journal , No Morpho, Only Bánh mì , Hauntedknight87 , Primemovermithrax Pejorative , and some new friends, Waxer-n-boil , ryboto , @snakeeyes43 , Jedan Archer , who have joined in. The Force Awakens, yeah. You guys have, well, tempered my expectations, so let’s so how this goes. Keep in mind: it’s not canon, Lucas had nothing to do with it and disowned it, and I won’t like you anymore if you say a single good thing about it. OKAY, ENJOY!!!!!!1 Hey, I’ve got documentary evidence of you guys’ wishing me to continue the experiment. If this thing goes to court I’ve got a rock-solid case!
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 20, 2018 0:28:54 GMT
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 20, 2018 0:29:28 GMT
Keep in mind: it’s not canon, Lucas had nothing to do with it and disowned it, and I won’t like you anymore if you say a single good thing about it. OKAY, ENJOY!!!!!!1 Hey, I’ve got documentary evidence of you guys’ wishing me to continue the experiment. If this thing goes to court I’ve got a rock-solid case! All I'll say is: it is the most intellectually insulting and nakedly cynical movie I've ever seen. But your mileage may vary; you haven't spent a lifetime watching the films, so your perspective will be really interesting.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 20, 2018 0:31:51 GMT
OK, here goes…
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 20, 2018 0:35:32 GMT
Heh, sorry, computer issues with junky old replacement laptop. coldenhaulfield would probably say the movie gods are trying to tell me something.
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