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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 28, 2018 15:17:25 GMT
It's also not Battlefront! It's basically battlefield reskin.
Battlefront died in 2005. RIP
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 28, 2018 15:26:34 GMT
You know Disney giving EA publisher rights for Star Wars Games made sense in the end because EA Essentially the Disney of the video game industry.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Sept 28, 2018 15:57:15 GMT
You know Disney giving EA publisher rights for Star Wars Games made sense in the end because EA Essentially the Disney of the video game industry. Exactly. A terrible company living off its brand recognition and spewing out a stream of exceedingly mediocre, middling crap inexplicably purchased by millions of morons, myself included.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 28, 2018 16:16:06 GMT
I hear that they did away with the horrible, game destroying aspects like micro transactions and bugs and they significantly expanded the game so that it is pretty great to play now.
Nah, it still sucks. It's ridiculously hard because of the changes they made to it; playing it is infuriating. I'm all game, I like to play it hard if you know what I mean. But I have giving up on being a player.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 28, 2018 16:16:08 GMT
You know Disney giving EA publisher rights for Star Wars Games made sense in the end because EA Essentially the Disney of the video game industry. Exactly. A terrible company living off its brand recognition and spewing out a stream of exceedingly mediocre, middling crap inexplicably purchased by millions of morons, myself included. Yep I'm just as guilty as well. Went to the midnight release for Battlefront (2015) and made an even worse decision by preordering Battlefront 2 (2017) digitally. Fucking EA ruined a lot of great franchises, including my personal favorite Mass Effect. Andromeda was such a bullshit cash grab.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Sept 28, 2018 16:19:47 GMT
Nah, it still sucks. It's ridiculously hard because of the changes they made to it; playing it is infuriating. I'm all game, I like to play it hard if you know what I mean. But I have giving up on being a player. I mean. There's "challenging," and there's dying three times in two minutes; at a certain point it's not fun to play, especially when the reason you're getting killed incessantly is because the game mechanics and controls in this are inferior to its predecessor, so it's not even a matter of skill. They particularly fucked this one up with the insistence on that weird third-person perspective for what should be a FPS. (Yeah, you can go FPS a small part of the time, but not the majorly of the game or most modes/levels of it.)
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 28, 2018 16:23:47 GMT
I'm all game, I like to play it hard if you know what I mean. But I have giving up on being a player. I mean. There's "challenging," and there's dying three times in two minutes; at a certain point it's not fun to play, especially when the reason you're getting killed incessantly is because the game mechanics and controls in this are inferior to its predecessor, so it's not even a matter of skill. They particularly fucked this one up with the insistence on that weird third-person perspective for what should be a FPS. (Yeah, you can go FPS a small part of the time, but not the majorly of the game or most modes/levels of it.) look, good against remotes is one thing. Good against the living online? That's something else.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 18:45:16 GMT
Well, at the moment I feel like my eyes are about to fall out of their sockets, so…not for the time being, amico mio. Don't listen to him. There are no sequels. Only fanfiction films, and there's way more of those on YouTube than the House of Mouse has vomited out, and many of them are quite good, unlike the execrable Disney dreck. I say: avoid all of that rot like the plague. I do agree. I'm no fan of the sequels,but I'd be curious to hear Salzy's take on them. It's an interesting case study we've got here: a fan watching these movies for the first time in a short span of time. We must continue this experiment! Innit?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Sept 28, 2018 19:52:55 GMT
Don't listen to him. There are no sequels. Only fanfiction films, and there's way more of those on YouTube than the House of Mouse has vomited out, and many of them are quite good, unlike the execrable Disney dreck. I say: avoid all of that rot like the plague. I do agree. I'm no fan of the sequels,but I'd be curious to hear Salzy's take on them. It's an interesting case study we've got here: a fan watching these movies for the first time in a short span of time. We must continue this experiment! Innit?
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Sept 29, 2018 3:40:47 GMT
Do you not know that Clonetroopers routinely took orders from Yoda in AOTC the same way that they took orders from Jedis they called general? Also, Yoda was called general in CWAS (Clone Wars animated series). I am going by the Kurtz and Lucas version--not the later revisions. In the original Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi Yoda is never called a general.
Certainly if Kenobi could be called that then Yoda could have..if that was intended. At the time it wasn't-just like Vader's back story and all the rest. Lucas just picked it out of a hat later on. He never had a firm plan for the stories-which is why the Emperor goes from kind of a weakling in TESB to the guy in charge by ROTJ.
The way Clive Revell says "Luke Skywalker-he can destroy us" and then after Vader suggests they turn him to the Dark Side: "Yes, yes..he could be a great asset. Can it be done?"
That is not the same Emperor who said: "Everything is occurring as I have foreseen it."
Lucas has been a fluid writer/storyteller. He has always made character changes and modifications. But never character contradictions. Or mythos contradictions like this Disney crap. To each his own but your head canon seems pretty strict. Saying that the emperor of TESB is a totally different character than the emperor of ROTJ is IMHO - for the lack of a better term - nitpicking. Especially since all we got from TESB was a cameo. And even in that cameo the emperor implies that he has powers of clairvoyance. Weak? Afraid of Luke Skywalker? Not in control? I think that's a matter of personal interpretation. He could be commenting on a vision of a potential outcome. And I doubt that Vader would've bent a knee to an easily frightened weakling. But to each his own when it comes to head canons.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Sept 29, 2018 3:49:01 GMT
You know Disney giving EA publisher rights for Star Wars Games made sense in the end because EA Essentially the Disney of the video game industry. 👆 This.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Sept 29, 2018 4:00:32 GMT
You know Disney giving EA publisher rights for Star Wars Games made sense in the end because EA Essentially the Disney of the video game industry. Exactly. A terrible company living off its brand recognition and spewing out a stream of exceedingly mediocre, middling crap inexplicably purchased by millions of morons, myself included. EA should stick to sports. Whenever they make games of other genres they turn out hollow, shallow, or crappy. In almost 5 years they've only put out 2 SW video games. And they're updated remakes and rehashes. Thanks Kay Kay! Can't wait for the next rehash video game flop! And we'll probably get 2 more SW movies before that happens.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Sept 29, 2018 6:33:41 GMT
Lucas has been a fluid writer/storyteller. He has always made character changes and modifications. But never character contradictions. Or mythos contradictions like this Disney crap. To each his own but your head canon seems pretty strict. Saying that the emperor of TESB is a totally different character than the emperor of ROTJ is IMHO - for the lack of a better term - nitpicking. Especially since all we got from TESB was a cameo. And even in that cameo the emperor implies that he has powers of clairvoyance. Weak? Afraid of Luke Skywalker? Not in control? I think that's a matter of personal interpretation. He could be commenting on a vision of a potential outcome. And I doubt that Vader would've bent a knee to an easily frightened weakling. But to each his own when it comes to head canons. Not nitpicking. The Darth Vader of ESB was different from that of ROTJ and even the first SW.
Lucas did not have a consistent plan and kept changing his mind. I dont agree with some of the changes-like making Yoda into a general who does fancy kung fu gestures.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 29, 2018 7:06:46 GMT
yeah, OT Vader was indeed 3 times a different character:
1. Generic henchmen trying to please Tarkin and bickering with middle management and piloting his ships 2. Demonic leader who wants to overthrow the Emperor with his son 3. Conflicted man who must serve his Emperor and will protect him from his son.
It's pretty clear and well documented that they made it up with the OT per movie even at the cost creating creating plot holes (father, incest etc).
However, I see no real inconsistencies with OT-PT Yoda though. Reducing PT Yoda (during the clone war!) to a wise, inactive swamp creature like in the OT would have been stupid fanservice. He even admitted that he was a warrior. The guy was clearly a frustrated former leader who lived in exile and had a political score to settle with the current powers that be.
TLJ Yoda was an abomination though, calling Luke suddenly Skywalker, throwing lightening and being a drunken, dancing clown. I bet RJ just watched the first Empire-Yoda scene and said I like him better that way. Frack those hacks!
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Sept 29, 2018 18:00:24 GMT
Lucas has been a fluid writer/storyteller. He has always made character changes and modifications. But never character contradictions. Or mythos contradictions like this Disney crap. To each his own but your head canon seems pretty strict. Saying that the emperor of TESB is a totally different character than the emperor of ROTJ is IMHO - for the lack of a better term - nitpicking. Especially since all we got from TESB was a cameo. And even in that cameo the emperor implies that he has powers of clairvoyance. Weak? Afraid of Luke Skywalker? Not in control? I think that's a matter of personal interpretation. He could be commenting on a vision of a potential outcome. And I doubt that Vader would've bent a knee to an easily frightened weakling. But to each his own when it comes to head canons. Not nitpicking. The Darth Vader of ESB was different from that of ROTJ and even the first SW.
Lucas did not have a consistent plan and kept changing his mind. I dont agree with some of the changes-like making Yoda into a general who does fancy kung fu gestures.
Well they didn't. It was a different director and set of writers for every film and for the most part, all did their own thing. I'm not sure how involved Lucas was with specific plot details, like Darth Vader being Luke's father, but they really were making it up as they went along. That's why in Star Wars, Obi-Wan didn't directly say that Vader was Luke's father because they didn't even know.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 2:19:38 GMT
This isn’t a criticism—to the contrary—but this is the only one of the lot that left me without a smile on my face. Because it’s really well done, really very well done, and it’s not supposed to leave you with a smile on your face; evil wins. It’s not perfect (what is?), with Christensen’s voice and emoting still off, and I could probably find some nitpicks, but it’s a great film. Purely considered as scene-painting, mise-en-scène, it’s a masterwork. Some general impressions, though: none of the prequels was as much fun as the originals. While I was regularly impressed with the staging, imagery, and set-design for all of them, The Phantom Menace struck me as somewhat pointless and Attack of the Clones somewhat badly filmed. (Still liked ‘em, though.) I think this is the only one of the three to compete with the originals just for pure quality, and fittingly there are rather clear cross-references to all three of the originals. All the originals, even The Empire Strikes Back, left with a smile on my face; this is serious, and dares to take itself seriously. But I think the subtitle of Star Wars, “a new hope,” makes more sense now: the situation at the end of this movie seems pretty damn hopeless, but Luke is that one small hope in a sea of evils from Pandora’s box. I think that this movie, at least, makes the originals more satisfying and makes everything more wholistic. It’s a good one. I’m delighted I saw these movies at long last. I'm glad you enjoyed Revenge of the Sith. I know it isn't the most well made, but it is my personal favorite.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 30, 2018 2:40:26 GMT
I'm glad you enjoyed Revenge of the Sith. I know it isn't the most well made, but it is my personal favorite. It was really good—by far my favorite of the prequels, and I think I’d rate it above Return of the Jedi as well. I thought it was well-made in that the direction was very good and the sets and effects were impressive… What do you mean? By the by, of those I’ve seen I’d probably rank them like this: The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi
Attack of the Clones
The Phantom Menace (which I don’t like putting at the bottom, as there were so many elements I liked in it and it’s better filmed and especially lit than Clones, but it felt rather pointless and not particularly memorable)
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Sept 30, 2018 2:50:31 GMT
I didn't feel invested in the ROTS characters. At least the Luke-Vader-Emperor scenes had some weight.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 30, 2018 3:04:55 GMT
I didn't feel invested in the ROTS characters. At least the Luke-Vader-Emperor scenes had some weight. Oh, I felt invested in them—I was actually shocked with Anakin’s transformation, even if I thought it went a little too quickly. But I got concerned about them and interested in what they were doing. De gustibus, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 3:43:25 GMT
I'm glad you enjoyed Revenge of the Sith. I know it isn't the most well made, but it is my personal favorite. It was really good—by far my favorite of the prequels, and I think I’d rate it above Return of the Jedi as well. I thought it was well-made in that the direction was very good and the sets and effects were impressive… What do you mean? By the by, of those I’ve seen I’d probably rank them like this: The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi
Attack of the Clones
The Phantom Menace (which I don’t like putting at the bottom, as there were so many elements I liked in it and it’s better filmed and especially lit than Clones, but it felt rather pointless and not particularly memorable) I just meant that it wasn't the most well made of the Star Wars movies from a critical standpoint, not that it wasn't a well made film.
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