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Post by goz on Jun 9, 2018 5:56:17 GMT
Well, you just said it yourself! Since there is no such thing as objective morality, we only have our best subjecting meaning and morality to go on. What if there is NO objective or subjective morality? Morality is all just an abstract core or belief and born out of emotion, like the point being addressed by terrapin.
What there is, is appropriate ways in which to behave, which is born out of attitude, which is all subjective\abstract again. Taking advantage of children sexually, when they are more vulnerable and curious and more obliging and more obedient than adults, is what the real issue is. However, the consent issue IS an 'ad hoc' one, because regardless of how we may feel about this, it is not going to change a darn thing about how certain adults choose to behave, and reaction and outrage to this behavior IS born out of nothing but subjective\abstract emotion.
Great argument for subjective morality. If you wish to take away the abstract concept of morality...this is where the difficulties start. HOWEVER.... if you discount things about all this shit....there is one thing that is (IMHO) incontrovertible... It is evolutionary that parents want their offspring to survive and flourish. In MODERN society, it may not be evolutionary, butt modern parents don't want their children 'harmed'. They want them, NOT only to be unharmed physically and mentally, butt they want them to be 'happy'.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 12, 2018 13:14:45 GMT
So how is this thread going now, anyway?
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Post by Vegas on Jun 12, 2018 13:17:32 GMT
So how is this thread going now, anyway? With you looking like a fucking moron.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 12, 2018 13:19:18 GMT
So how is this thread going now, anyway? With you looking like a fucking moron. goz didn't save it, then, I guess.
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 12, 2018 19:08:24 GMT
Some people that I miss that many won't remember -:
1. Agpie - A polish woman who posted infrequently.
2. Bazarov_2
3 - bonniebonniebanks - She was unfortunately bullied by both the theists & the atheists
4. OldSamVimes - The previous OSV was a face/funny person. Now he has turned heel/villain
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 12, 2018 19:56:14 GMT
Adding 'Fothenonce' - Very Funny.
Red Barn/ Rowan Morrison - I initially fought with him but later reconciled.
Scalvador - Still a mystery whether he was a sock of ErJen 2 or a sock of He Can't.
Lepper_Nz
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Post by goz on Jun 13, 2018 21:11:35 GMT
With you looking like a fucking moron. goz didn't save it, then, I guess. Well, I saved innocent bystanders from having to wade through a further 14+ (as of now) pages of unpleasantness, to find a post on topic, so there is that!
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Post by Marv on Jun 14, 2018 1:04:50 GMT
Guyzzerino...he was an old Trekkie who liked to read. We got along. He hadn’t posted consistently in years. Although I think he did stop by randomly within the last year of the old board shutting down.
Emsby...she was so angry and militant...but I loved her. She also beat breastfeeding cancer last I heard and married a fellow IMDb poster named kosk. Hopefully she’s a happily married soccer mom now.
Dragon...the girl dragon, not the poisoned one. Great rack. Fun to talk to. Too many bad terms near the end of our ‘friendship’ tho...but I’ll always love her for lending me the Wheel of Time series. I read 6 of them but there were still about 4 dozen books to read when I sent them back.
FireinBabylon...we talked sports, comics, video games. He loved dogs and we actually played the Division together, wherein I would kill all the stray dogs we came across just to hear him squeal. ::laugh:: He also was the first person I had ever hear talk about A Song if Ice and Fire.
CaptainAmerica...lawyer and comic book nerd from Philly area. Always had good chats. He got into an infamous altercation with Lando where they planned on meeting IRL and fighting each other since they both lived in a similar area. I think it was over The Godfather movie. Good times.
Dennis the Pwny...I’ll be honest. The most I remember from him was he was from Baltimore so we had an NFL feud going. Always seemed like a decent fellow tho, else I wouldn’t remember him.
MyMotherIsRandallFlagg...funny dude. I always got the feeling he was still around. Just a feeling in the tip of my...gut. :/
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 14, 2018 5:02:56 GMT
Guyzzerino...he was an old Trekkie who liked to read. We got along. He hadn’t posted consistently in years. Although I think he did stop by randomly within the last year of the old board shutting down. Emsby...she was so angry and militant...but I loved her. She also beat breastfeeding cancer last I heard and married a fellow IMDb poster named kosk. Hopefully she’s a happily married soccer mom now. Dragon...the girl dragon, not the poisoned one. Great rack. Fun to talk to. Too many bad terms near the end of our ‘friendship’ tho...but I’ll always love her for lending me the Wheel of Time series. I read 6 of them but there were still about 4 dozen books to read when I sent them back. FireinBabylon...we talked sports, comics, video games. He loved dogs and we actually played the Division together, wherein I would kill all the stray dogs we came across just to hear him squeal. He also was the first person I had ever hear talk about A Song if Ice and Fire. CaptainAmerica...lawyer and comic book nerd from Philly area. Always had good chats. He got into an infamous altercation with Lando where they planned on meeting IRL and fighting each other since they both lived in a similar area. I think it was over The Godfather movie. Good times. Dennis the Pwny...I’ll be honest. The most I remember from him was he was from Baltimore so we had an NFL feud going. Always seemed like a decent fellow tho, else I wouldn’t remember him. MyMotherIsRandallFlagg...funny dude. I always got the feeling he was still around. Just a feeling in the tip of my...gut. :/ One guy you and Vegas were fine with but I detested a lot was Sir_Digby_Chicken_moron. I don't remember ever liking any of his posts. That guy was racist all over but wearing the mask of reason/libertarianism. I don't think his purpose was only to incite others. He was first class racist by heart. I frequently abused him.
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Post by Marv on Jun 14, 2018 7:55:40 GMT
Guyzzerino...he was an old Trekkie who liked to read. We got along. He hadn’t posted consistently in years. Although I think he did stop by randomly within the last year of the old board shutting down. Emsby...she was so angry and militant...but I loved her. She also beat breastfeeding cancer last I heard and married a fellow IMDb poster named kosk. Hopefully she’s a happily married soccer mom now. Dragon...the girl dragon, not the poisoned one. Great rack. Fun to talk to. Too many bad terms near the end of our ‘friendship’ tho...but I’ll always love her for lending me the Wheel of Time series. I read 6 of them but there were still about 4 dozen books to read when I sent them back. FireinBabylon...we talked sports, comics, video games. He loved dogs and we actually played the Division together, wherein I would kill all the stray dogs we came across just to hear him squeal. He also was the first person I had ever hear talk about A Song if Ice and Fire. CaptainAmerica...lawyer and comic book nerd from Philly area. Always had good chats. He got into an infamous altercation with Lando where they planned on meeting IRL and fighting each other since they both lived in a similar area. I think it was over The Godfather movie. Good times. Dennis the Pwny...I’ll be honest. The most I remember from him was he was from Baltimore so we had an NFL feud going. Always seemed like a decent fellow tho, else I wouldn’t remember him. MyMotherIsRandallFlagg...funny dude. I always got the feeling he was still around. Just a feeling in the tip of my...gut. :/ One guy you and Vegas were fine with but I detested a lot was Sir_Digby_Chicken_moron. I don't remember ever liking any of his posts. That guy was racist all over but wearing the mask of reason/libertarianism. I don't think his purpose was only to incite others. He was first class racist by heart. I frequently abused him. Yea I was fine with Digby but he was type of guy that...you know why other people dislike him, I just never took him all that seriously.
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Post by Vegas on Jun 14, 2018 11:31:06 GMT
One guy you and Vegas were fine with but I detested a lot was Sir_Digby_Chicken_moron. I don't remember ever liking any of his posts. That guy was racist all over but wearing the mask of reason/libertarianism. I don't think his purpose was only to incite others. He was first class racist by heart. I frequently abused him. He never really rubbed me the wrong way. Of course... There's no real wrong way to rub me.
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Post by Morgana on Jun 14, 2018 11:55:09 GMT
Some people that I miss that many won't remember -: 1. Agpie - A polish woman who posted infrequently. 2. Bazarov_2 3 - bonniebonniebanks - She was unfortunately bullied by both the theists & the atheists 4. OldSamVimes - The previous OSV was a face/funny person. Now he has turned heel/villain Sam, I saw on the Politics board, recently. Bazarov - I remember him. I wonder whether he's on these boards under another name?
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 14, 2018 12:06:19 GMT
Some people that I miss that many won't remember -: 1. Agpie - A polish woman who posted infrequently. 2. Bazarov_2 3 - bonniebonniebanks - She was unfortunately bullied by both the theists & the atheists 4. OldSamVimes - The previous OSV was a face/funny person. Now he has turned heel/villain Sam, I saw on the Politics board, recently. Bazarov - I remember him. I wonder whether he's on these boards under another name? Yeah, Sam posts here on this board also. I just meant he doesn't post much here these days. He posts more on politics board. I talk with Bazarov on email from time to time. He was here for a few days when the board started but then he got busy with his other passions and does not post here now.
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Post by clusium on Jun 14, 2018 13:24:20 GMT
Guyzzerino...he was an old Trekkie who liked to read. We got along. He hadn’t posted consistently in years. Although I think he did stop by randomly within the last year of the old board shutting down. Emsby...she was so angry and militant...but I loved her. She also beat breastfeeding cancer last I heard and married a fellow IMDb poster named kosk. Hopefully she’s a happily married soccer mom now. Dragon...the girl dragon, not the poisoned one. Great rack. Fun to talk to. Too many bad terms near the end of our ‘friendship’ tho...but I’ll always love her for lending me the Wheel of Time series. I read 6 of them but there were still about 4 dozen books to read when I sent them back. FireinBabylon...we talked sports, comics, video games. He loved dogs and we actually played the Division together, wherein I would kill all the stray dogs we came across just to hear him squeal. He also was the first person I had ever hear talk about A Song if Ice and Fire. CaptainAmerica...lawyer and comic book nerd from Philly area. Always had good chats. He got into an infamous altercation with Lando where they planned on meeting IRL and fighting each other since they both lived in a similar area. I think it was over The Godfather movie. Good times. Dennis the Pwny...I’ll be honest. The most I remember from him was he was from Baltimore so we had an NFL feud going. Always seemed like a decent fellow tho, else I wouldn’t remember him. MyMotherIsRandallFlagg...funny dude. I always got the feeling he was still around. Just a feeling in the tip of my...gut. :/ I don't remember any other poster besides Poisoned_Dragon, with 'Dragon' in their user ID.
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Post by Marv on Jun 14, 2018 13:28:28 GMT
Guyzzerino...he was an old Trekkie who liked to read. We got along. He hadn’t posted consistently in years. Although I think he did stop by randomly within the last year of the old board shutting down. Emsby...she was so angry and militant...but I loved her. She also beat breastfeeding cancer last I heard and married a fellow IMDb poster named kosk. Hopefully she’s a happily married soccer mom now. Dragon...the girl dragon, not the poisoned one. Great rack. Fun to talk to. Too many bad terms near the end of our ‘friendship’ tho...but I’ll always love her for lending me the Wheel of Time series. I read 6 of them but there were still about 4 dozen books to read when I sent them back. FireinBabylon...we talked sports, comics, video games. He loved dogs and we actually played the Division together, wherein I would kill all the stray dogs we came across just to hear him squeal. He also was the first person I had ever hear talk about A Song if Ice and Fire. CaptainAmerica...lawyer and comic book nerd from Philly area. Always had good chats. He got into an infamous altercation with Lando where they planned on meeting IRL and fighting each other since they both lived in a similar area. I think it was over The Godfather movie. Good times. Dennis the Pwny...I’ll be honest. The most I remember from him was he was from Baltimore so we had an NFL feud going. Always seemed like a decent fellow tho, else I wouldn’t remember him. MyMotherIsRandallFlagg...funny dude. I always got the feeling he was still around. Just a feeling in the tip of my...gut. :/ I don't remember any other poster besides Poisoned_Dragon, with 'Dragon' in their user ID. She had a couple different names after a while. Some of them were horse themed...but i can't think of any specifically.
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Post by clusium on Jun 14, 2018 13:29:34 GMT
Some people that I miss that many won't remember -: 1. Agpie - A polish woman who posted infrequently. 2. Bazarov_2 3 - bonniebonniebanks - She was unfortunately bullied by both the theists & the atheists 4. OldSamVimes - The previous OSV was a face/funny person. Now he has turned heel/villain BonnieBonnieBanks was a little bit stand-offish. Shortly after joining the RFS message forum, I PM'd her once, regarding one discussion on a topic thread, & she snapped at me for doing so.
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Post by clusium on Jun 14, 2018 13:30:04 GMT
I don't remember any other poster besides Poisoned_Dragon, with 'Dragon' in their user ID. She had a couple different names after a while. Some of them were horse themed...but i can't think of any specifically. Still doesn't ring any bells.
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 14, 2018 13:43:33 GMT
Some people that I miss that many won't remember -: 1. Agpie - A polish woman who posted infrequently. 2. Bazarov_2 3 - bonniebonniebanks - She was unfortunately bullied by both the theists & the atheists 4. OldSamVimes - The previous OSV was a face/funny person. Now he has turned heel/villain BonnieBonnieBanks was a little bit stand-offish. Shortly after joining the RFS message forum, I PM'd her once, regarding one discussion on a topic thread, & she snapped at me for doing so. Yeah I am not surprised by that reaction. I once mentioned her by her old username - Snape's_silver_doe - and she got a bit tense.
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Post by clusium on Jun 14, 2018 13:52:31 GMT
BonnieBonnieBanks was a little bit stand-offish. Shortly after joining the RFS message forum, I PM'd her once, regarding one discussion on a topic thread, & she snapped at me for doing so. Yeah I am not surprised by that reaction. I once mentioned her by her old username - Snape's_silver_doe - and she got a bit tense. Interesting. Think I remember that user ID too. Wonder why she was so sensitive like that...?
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 15, 2018 3:13:41 GMT
Yeah I am not surprised by that reaction. I once mentioned her by her old username - Snape's_silver_doe - and she got a bit tense. Interesting. Think I remember that user ID too. Wonder why she was so sensitive like that...? Much of her life was invested in travelling. She was a Canadian citizen as far as I can recall but had lived in Africa, Turkey, Canada and may be one or two more places at different times of her life. She was not exactly a lesbian totally as she indicated she didn't have sex but she believed she could live her whole life with another woman as a friend and companion. I could understand why she was a bit sensitive. But at core of her heart she was a nice human being. Also, her mother's death had caused a bit of stress to her as she was probably close to her mother. She often got bullied on the board. Once she said that Charlize Theron should be considered a person of African origin and many of the bullies went mad over her.
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